Was it common for landlords to have affairs with qt peasant women in feudal Europe

visigoths and other germanics practiced it, then the spaniards took the custom to south america, It´s not common anymore but until the 50s it was still a thing

Source required

google Beilager, Droit du seigneur or Derecho de Pernada youself

who?

It's a myth.

It's probably more common in modern capitalism for a female employee tofuck her boss while prima noctis is a meme from the enlightement.

Well...Going by history...Other peasants.

>braveheart was non fiction

I hate this fucking board

It's not.
Nope, real. Lords would treat the sex-threat as a marriage tax, and just fucc the best.

But it was an actual heritage in times of conquest. Saxon conquerors then Norman conquerors in Britain, Norse conquerors of south of Italy, they all practiced actively this blood-mixing for obvious reasons of securing their power, and also used to keep an eye on their offspring (usually racially different) to favor them and make them be a kind of buffer-class betwen the few rulers and the low paesants.
Gilles de Rais was a serial killer, point absolutely not in case.

dayum

>as seen by how controversial and scandalous Gilles de Rais was

You're the idiot here if you believe any of that propaganda by scheming, power-hungry nobles.

Facts conveniently exploited for propaganda? Yes.
>Was De Rais a degenerate? I think he was.
>A murderer? Of course, at least during war.
>A degenerate murderer? Highly probable.

I feel that this "Ius primae noctis" (ps. get your latin straight you two ) is the same kind of historiographic bullshit with a political agenda as other
>debunked
myths, like
>no user, barbaric invasions were not invasions nor barbaric, it was just a "migration" or should I say enrichment?

Historians debate whether Peron (Argentina) born as a result of a prima noctis

Trujillo fucked every beauty queen or good looking woman in the Dominican Republic. Fidel Castro was no different.
It was a component of latin american caudillism

>GILLES DE RAIS WUZ A GUD BOI HE DINDU NUFFIN

no they weren't

>persecutor had the rights to all his lands if he was found guilty

sure m8 it totally wasn't a kangaroo court.

You can say whatever you want about Argentina and memes, but I am pretty sure that it was not part of Feudal Europe.

IIRC it wasn't unheard of. While prima noctis isn't really accurate, prostitution did occur. And lords could take advantage of villein ignorance of the law
Richard III forced several married woman from his home fief into concubinage.

It's highly probable. Feudal setting was a good place for sexual exploitation as the lord had his own manorial courts for justice and could also resort to violence of arms to get what he wanted since he had a monopoly of force.

Tudor Propaganda

>Richard III forced several married woman from his home fief into concubinage.

Wtf I hate the French kings of England now!

Citation needed for that.

If doit de seigneur existed there would be records of it. Coroners rolls. Charters. Household accounts. Something other than rumour and legend.

>born in Fotheringhay
>grew up in Ludlow and Middleham
>only visted France to invade it
>French

Deal with it butthurt bong

Doubtful.

I mean how sex obsessed do you have to be to stick your royal dick in a filthy peasent?

Plus, nobility was obsessed with proving moral superiority or having good standing with the church and the people.

Pretty hard to get shit done if everyone thinks you are a mindless sex addict.

>The Tudors are Welsh

Then by the same criteria that would make them Welsh, means that most of the Plantagenets are England

Come to think of it, Henry VII is literally 1/4 French, his grandmother being Catherine of Valois.

I say it on a BBC documentary about Richards 1 to 3

>I feel that

That's nice. The next step, and this is the important one, is "I have reason to believe that" moving on to "I know that", so why don't you go do some research instead of talking about your feelings.

>all evidence points to monogamous intermarrying
I don't think OP was looking for this.
>appealing to hearsay as evidence
STOP
Those are myths, you dolt.
That's been discredited by so many historians.....Even the meme ones.
Agreed
Some Francis Pryor tier bullshit.

>BBC """"""""Documentary"""""""""
>these important talking heads with no obvious agenda to push said it so it must be true
PSD or get out!

HIDE YO KIDS

Trujillo would also demand ministers and other allies to give him access to their wives and daughters, as a way to test their loyalty.

Hot as fuck.

I think more often than not, whatever relationships the aristocracy had with their underlings were consensual. I can imagine peasant girls dreaming about being "picked up" by the noble, just like white girls dream of being selected as concubines by black men.

Was it presented by this bloke?

Adding the pic might be useful....

Can't remember.
I guess I'm going to watch documentaries all day to find a source

I recall reading an excerpt from Usama ibn Munqidh where he talks about an uncle who boasted that his day couldn't really begin until he'd fucked a peasant girl in the morning.

Affairs in general were common no matter the time period, but what really mattered was proximity and access. It'd be really hard for a noble to just stroll into a random village, get his dick wet, and walk out without getting attacked by an angry mob. What would more likely happen is that a noble on the march with his army might lodge someplace or hire some local servants and be tempted to start an affair under a more secure roof. This sort of thing was common enough in the early Modern period with young men of a household and the maids that worked there.

>a higher level of discourse

T H I C C

bye rddit

Well look at it from the girl's perspective. At worst she ends up with a baby (which she can end up using as a token of favor later) and at best she becomes a concubine or mistress, and dramatically improves her quality of life.

That's only if she's legally or physically secure, and neither are all that likely since a peasant community recognizing and accepting a single-mother and er bastard isn't historically common, nor was any court or manor openly accepting of a peasant concubine possibly any sort of influence on a noble's personal/household affairs. Even harems were pretty strict about that sort of thing.

Testosterone levels were double, triple, or even quadruple the levels of modern men today, add in to that no porn and no privacy to masturbate the average man was horny as FUCK constantly, as soon as some peasant bitch bends over and you see her ass outline through the dress you're already rock hard

>Testosterone levels were double, triple, or even quadruple the levels of modern men today
citation needed

HOW WILL ANGLOKEKS EVER RECOVER!?

>Sex with somen during any points in history before they regularly shaved their vaginas, assholes, legs and armpits.

No fuckin thanks.

People have been shaving forever.
Athenian women shaved themselves with sea shells

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You get your history from inforwars, don't you?

>qt peasant women
>hairy legs, arms, armpits, face, probably chest and back too
>no bath since ever
>incapable of having any kind of critical thinking/having a meaningful conversation - mere beasts of burden with human clothes
>10 kids by the age of 20 leave a trail of mayhem and destruction all over their bodies

>qt

>Not liking a little hair to add some flair

get the fuck out

I wonder how many women Genghis Khan fucked.

It's estimated that 1/5th of all East Asians are related to Genghis.

Of course, this is more because Genghis' descendants fucked around as much, if not more than he did, but still.

DON'T TALK TO ME OR MILORD'S SON EVER AGAIN

Very good post

> Random Black men
>not celebrities in general like Justin, Drake, or One Direction
You /pol/ fags have a serious problem and possible fetish. I really feel bad for you.

For the longest times, women would never shave their vaginas and neither men their balls though. Armpits and legs might have been different though. I heard the Scottish used sand paper.

>I really feel bad for you.
I enjoy their stupidity.
checked.

The face hair thing makes no sense. The average women, no mater how poor or rich does not have back or facial hair, the same way few women are over 6 feet.

I find it funny that /pol/ thinks that white women are being conditioned to offer themselves to black men and be bred by them in an effort to destroy the white race.
When in reality most chicks just want to sleep around with celebs.

Sorry, ignore that first comment if it's still there, I misread it and thought you were the /pol/ poster. It's late and I got to be getting to bed.

hnng

I know the Plantagenet were French, but Southern France didnt even speak French
Now, Lionheart could speak Occitant, so maybe his descendents could too

There is a folklore rumor that Henry IV had a relationship with a peasant girl in southern France. Is true ? I don't know.

Read a book

Why do redditors make pretend they don't want to fuck a peasant girl?

>hairy
>grubby
>sweaty
>terrible teeth
>awful body odour

Sounds like a *dream*, user.

>wahhh she smells a little bit mommy I don't wanna put my special place in her special place I want her to be clean like my animes

Bet you're a virgin

>I'll fuck anything at this point!!

you sound like the virgin here, virgin.

About today's revisionism, you pleb
>i "feel" that this is historiagraphical propaganda orientated by interest or zeitgeist
>we will "know" in a few decades
See the difference.
About feudalism and IPN
>I "know" for a fact that the inhabitants of many different villages nearby my hometown are still dubbed "Earl's bastards" because of the exuberance of pic related, who enforced the ius well into the XVII century. This is a fact. I can provide more, but i think you'll be more comfortable clinging to the narrative they taught you in primary school.

Forgot the pic related
>mfw arguing history with plebs

You clearly lack comprehension of the very posts you're replying to, how should I think that you can read something like a history book?

>hairy legs, arms, armpits, face, probably chest and back too
>no bath since ever

Almost every woman from any estate of the realm was like that.

I don't think women had "hairy faces" or backs anywhere really/ Women do not get those things. If some do, it's a genetic anomaly.
And no, nobles and wealthy people who had money at the time bathed most days, especially women. Please get that myth out of here.

Southern European women do grow facial hair

Yes, they call such people "men".

you would be negatively surprised if we women didn't have a 21st century arsenal to end any trace of hair from their bodies

keep in mind that while this might have never happened in a medieval europe, it happens today in some places of africa

>dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3703122/HIV-infected-man-paid-3-girls-virginity-sexual-cleansing-ritual-Malawi.html
>mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hiv-infected-man-paid-3-8461262

>tfw no education to become an hyena

>believing early days photoshop
i was hoping the IQ average on this board was higher than what's currently showing

Oh gawdy fap fap fap

who dis is

I recall reading of a french count that did this, he had well over a hundred bastard children

an eighth of the frogs are doubtless related to this guy

10/10

hay guys im a grl lol

fuck off.

>rough hands
>hairy
>clothes smell of manure
>yellow teeth
>eats with her hands and reeks of beer cause the water has amoebas and nobody wants to drink it
>Only topics of discussion are what the pastor told us last sunday, that her crotch is itchy and that the cow gave birth to another calf

You can have that 10th century pimply ass all for yourself m8

Not everyone is like in your family, boy.

>>yellow teeth

Would her teeth be worse than a noble woman if she can't afford sugar?

>Tudors were Welsh
This meme needs to stop. Henry VII was like 1/8th Welsh or something ridiculous like that.

>inb4 butthurt Anglo
I'm a Welshfag

Women are supposed to smell.