Why were the Romans so retarded that they let in hundreds of thousands of Barbarians into Rome

Why were the Romans so retarded that they let in hundreds of thousands of Barbarians into Rome.
Im glad we have history so we can look back at them and know not to make the same mistakes

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The Visighoths only began causing shit when it was clear the Romans only wanted to use them as cannon fooder, and they only became a real threat when the Romans slaughtered thousands of children and wives belonging to their own barbarian soldiers, leading to those seeking cover at Alaric's camp. Seeing how people are turning more and more racist and Xenophobic I am sorry to say we have learned little from the old Romans.

The only barbarians who cause significant problems were the ones from the outside. For most of their history, they were pretty good at integrating people into their empire, until they went full fucking retard

Besides, the Romans were pretty good at ruining the empire by themselves.

If Rome wasn't making a bunch of bullshit civil wars and worked together with each other then the Germanics would've been a threat to them.

Germanics wanted to be Roman more than the actual Romans

"Don't be so Visigothiphobic, its 416! You're a fucking Roman male!"

The population of Western Europe declined continuously from the second century AD to the seventh.

There simply were not enough people to hold them back.

Most of those civil wars employed the barbarians on either side. Figures like Stilicho, Aetius, and Alaric were denied legitimate positions within the empire and therefore had no choice but to give over their armies or carve out their own power base independent of Rome. There's really no alt-history situation where the empire could have warded off all of the barbarians, it would have to be a more heavily Germanized empire in the west or no empire at all, the latter is obviously what happened.

Tangentially related but how many people on this board have heard of or read The Sixteen Satires by Juvenal?

It is basically a /pol9k/ thread from pagan Rome. The author rages at everything in Rome whether it be the degeneracy of the people or the corruption of the Republic the same way both boards do. Complete with cuckposting and other nonsense.

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>Seeing how people are turning more and more racist and Xenophobic I am sorry to say we have learned little from the old Romans.
yeah it's so weird how people don't like being demographically replaced by outsiders

Yes, something that wasn't actually happening in the first place, yet which caused Rome to idiotically make it happen because they bought into memes.

Well put.

The Germanic barbarians for the most part were good for turning into soldiers and settling depopulated areas, it was only when the empire became so weak it was unable to enforce the Roman identity on these immigrants that they became a problem, and even then, it took deliberate provocation in slaughtering the families of its Gothic troops for no real reason that resulted in the crisis with Alaric.

Current year Kek

And to make it worse, Alaric tried several times to descalate the situation but Honorius was fucking retarded.

Alaric was a total Romaboo. To the point where he had his men call him Alaricus in the Latin fashion.

There were no Romans the way you portray them at that point. Rome was a multicultural empire for centuries by this time and gave citizenship to all of its inhabitants who were mostly not Romans from the city of Rome in Italy. The barbarians could have been either integrated or defeated as all others before them but the Empire was very unstable at that point and dependent on the competence of a single Emperor.
Also, if your own people are to spoiled to serve in the army and you only use barbarians for that, you must realise that they will eventually not agree to be the lowest class citizens while simultaneously controlling your army.
The empire expanded when only citizen land owners were drafted. Afrer that it all went to shit anyway with poorfag soldiers engaging in civil wars and destroying the republic and few centuries later the barbarian soldiers revolting and destroying the Empire.

Sarcasm is strong in OP.

Why was the European Union so retarded that they let in hundreds of thousands of Muslims into Europe.
Im glad we have history so we can look back at them and know not to make the same mistakes

well done you understood what op was implying

Seriously. Hell it was the East that gave Alaric their blessing to go and fuck the Western Empire up in the first place.

Actually wrong. The number of people in the migrations is only in the low hundreds of thousands while the population of the Roman world was still dozens of millions. It was the Justinian Plague in the 6th century that caused it to crash.

>/pol/ with dates

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Salvianius is a pretty great shitposter too.

tertullian.org/fathers/index.htm#On_the_Government_of_God

>Men took the garb of women and made their steps more mincing than women do; they wrought for themselves the tokens of a monstrous impurity and swathed their heads with the wrappings of feminine veils. And this they did publicly in a Roman city, the greatest and most famous city in that region! Was this not a disgrace to the Roman power, which permitted a most execrable wrong to be openly committed in the very bosom of the commonwealth

So your saying pakis are visgoths?

Somebody made this exact argument in an editorial in the Times a year ago. Reflecting the changing times, a response was made to it by someone a couple of weeks back. It was essentially that the real mistake was letting the Goths across the Danube to begin with, not mistreating them.

This thread has been surprisingly good so far though