ITT: Good commanders trapped in shit armies or navies

I'll start.

ITT: Most overrated commanders.

This guy actually won though.

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Imagine if Wellington was French.

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Overrated as fuck. Ney beat the dog shit out of him and the Prussians had to save him at Waterloo.

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More like military genius at the head of the world's best army of the era
There's a reason why only winter could defeat him

He was commanding Italians, so technically, he was trapped in a shit army.

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t. wehraboo
His Italian troops were pretty bad but giving them impossible objectives doesn't make it any better.

Yes, I. Big up the Lion.

Technically army is a strong word for what the Italiand had.

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This absolute madman

Didn't he single handedly capture a division of Italians in the German intervention at Isonzo?

Maybe not a shit army, but they really screwed the pooch at the end there by letting the commies take a slice.

You got it backwards. We're not having a thread about shit commanders throwing away countless good soldiers.

>Brits
>good soldiers
>ever

This meme needs to die

To be fair he had a huge naval tech advantage, but he was totally nailed to a dead weight army and beurocracy.

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His navy was way better than the Japanese retardation the japs called their navy.

good choice, there are a ton of habsburg generals that always fly under the radar. archduke charles of austria is another great general that no one ever talks about

This thread is about good commanders