Why do Britbongs still believe they actually did anything in WW2?

Why do Britbongs still believe they actually did anything in WW2?

26% of their already embarrassingly small and mismanaged war effort was paid for by Lend-Lease.

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Well, there was that whole period in between Dunkirk and Barbarossa where they were the only people actually at war with the axis.

France fought on for a month after Dunkirk. Britain just abandoned all their allies on the mainland after 2 weeks of fighting and patted themselves on the back for it.

Also you're forgetting Canada, Australia, Polish partisans, Yugoslav partisans, China if you count the whole Axis, etc.

New to the thread, but counting irregular partisans and Chinese activity but not counting any non-land combat in Europe is incredibly stupid.

Or are we going to pretend that North Africa, the Battle of Britain, the strategic bombing campaign, and the Battle of the Atlantic just didn't happen?

>not counting any non-land combat in Europe is incredibly stupid.

Nobody was doing this.

>Or are we going to pretend that North Africa, the Battle of Britain, the strategic bombing campaign, and the Battle of the Atlantic just didn't happen?

Before the USA and USSR entered the war, all of these except the BOB were miserable failures, just like their efforts in France, Norway, and Greece. In the air, British bombers were taking heavy losses to flak and accomplishing all of nothing when it came to damaging German industry (because they were still going for "area bombing" to break morale, which never worked). Meanwhile the Luftwaffe was still a strong and effective force for the next few years. On the sea, German subs for the cost of a mere ~150 subs from 1939 to 1942, and with a little help from the Luftwaffe, sunk 11 million tons of shipping, 2 battleships (Royal Oak, Barham), 4 aircraft carriers, 8 cruisers, and around 100 destroyers and frigates/corvettes.

>Nobody was doing this.

The statement of "Britain just abandoned all their allies on the mainland after 2 weeks of fighting and patted themselves on the back for it."

Certainly implies otherwise.

>Norway,

Exactly when did the Germans kick the British out of Narvik? Oh wait, they didn't, the British left to go help out France? Oh that's right.

>sunk 11 million tons of shipping,

Considering that the entirety of all Allied losses in the Atlantic amounted to about 13.5 million tons of shipping, and that the Second Happy time alone sunk about 3.1 million tons of purely American shipping, I'm going to call bullshit on your little claim.

>On the sea, German subs for the cost of a mere ~150 subs from 1939 to 1942,

And, you know, 1/3 of their battleship force, 1/2 of their cruiser force, and pretty much all of their destroyers and lighter ships, when they could be persuaded to scurry out of port in the first place. They also managed to keep the objective going, namely to keep the imports flowing into the UK, which the U-boats never came close to doing; meanwhile, that 60% of Germany's oil which prewar it got from overseas imports stopped like a light switch turning off; the mere notion of trying to run German shipping anywhere out of the heavily mined baltic was unthinkable.

By the way, I assume you're surrendering on North Africa.

without them keeping the UK intact it would not have been able to act as a base and aircraft carrier for US soldiers

so there's that

>The statement of "Britain just abandoned all their allies on the mainland after 2 weeks of fighting and patted themselves on the back for it." Certainly implies otherwise.

This was referring to the Battle of France, in response to the implication that no one else was fighting the Germans after Dunkirk.

>Exactly when did the Germans kick the British out of Narvik? Oh wait, they didn't, the British left to go help out France? Oh that's right.

They got bitch-slapped out of Norway and were unable to prevent an amphibious op by the weak Kriegsmarine, wow what a great performance.
>Considering that the entirety of all Allied losses in the Atlantic amounted to about 13.5 million tons of shipping, and that the Second Happy time alone sunk about 3.1 million tons of purely American shipping, I'm going to call bullshit on your little claim.

kek, Britbongs don't even know their own history. The tallies by month are publicly available.

naval-history.net/WW2CampaignsAtlanticDev.htm

The vast majority of the tonnage lost in the Atlantic was from 1939 to 1942. It totaled about 11 million tons.

>By the way, I assume you're surrendering on North Africa.

The British had no significant success against the Germans in North Africa until the end of 1942, long after the USA and USSR had entered the war. And North Africa was a quaternary theater anyway. That the Britbongs have to cite it is pretty pathetic desu.

>This was referring to the Battle of France, in response to the implication that no one else was fighting the Germans after Dunkirk.

Except for the fact that there were no regular military forces fighting against Germany besides the British from the fall of France until the invasion of Yugoslavia.

>They got bitch-slapped out of Norway

Which battle "bitch-slapped them out of Norway"? Why was Alphabet completely unopposed?

>naval-history.net/WW2CampaignsAtlanticDev.htm

For starters, your source lists losses from all Allied powers, both British and non-British. Secondly, according to it, the most deadly month was March, 1943. at 538,000 tons sunk.

>The British had no significant success against the Germans in North Africa until the end of 1942,

Never heard of Crusader, huh? Why does that not surprise me.

>And North Africa was a quaternary theater anyway. That the Britbongs have to cite it is pretty pathetic desu.

Of course it was. You know what's even more pathetic? Your /int/-tier dickwaving, that makes you so concerned about who is DA BESTESTS that you have to actually lie and distort the record so you can "prove" something that everyone knows, that the CW was well behind the U.S. and the USSR for providing for Allied overall victory.

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