Can we seriously stop with this "Hitler was evil" meme...

...

Slavery=Deliberate Ethnic Enslavement, I'd say that's worse in most cases.

The guys I mentioned set things in motion which always resulted into prosperity...eventually.

>you'll never live in timeline where london was bombed to ruins
>you'll never look upon historic images of flecktarn wearing SS troops hoisting the nazi flag over the ruins of buckingham palace

It hurts to live.

Actually most historians who studied his life consider him a completely average (or below average) guy. A failed artist without any real talents believing himself to be a genius.

The most surprising thing about him is how average he was.

>Would you call Caesar evil for enslaving gauls?
Yes
>Would you call Ghenghis evil for burning down cities?
Yes
>Would you call Truman evil for nuking two cities?
Start shit get hit

>the combined allied bombing of Germany and Japan resulted in far more civilian deaths than the holocaust.

>Everyone who knew hitler said he was a very nice person and a very respectful gentleman. He honestly did love his country with all his heart and was a patriot who wanted the best for his country.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero_Decree
>„Wenn der Krieg verloren geht, wird auch das Volk verloren sein. […] Es sei nicht notwendig, auf die Grundlagen, die das Volk zu seinem primitivsten Weiterleben braucht, Rücksicht zu nehmen. Im Gegenteil sei es besser, selbst diese Dinge zu zerstören. Denn das Volk hätte sich als das schwächere erwiesen und dem stärkeren Ostvolk gehöre dann ausschließlich die Zukunft. Was nach dem Kampf übrigbliebe, seien ohnehin nur die Minderwertigen; denn die Guten seien gefallen.“
>a man who loved his country
Read a book.

This is actually the consensus of most biographers and the guys who just re-published Mein Kampf as a critical edition.

No, it didn't. Stop lying and/or believing /pol/ macros.

You just have to look at modern germany to realize he was right.

Modern Germany essentially rules the European Union due to its financial and industrial capabilities (exactly the things Hitler wanted to destroy). It's one of the richest countries in the world and by now even working people prosper:spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/geringe-inflation-tarifloehne-uebersteigen-verbraucherpreise-deutlich-a-1128636.html

But yeah Breitbart will tell you Tunesians are roaming the street while via a ruled by a socialist empress.

I was quoting the OP and telling him to go to /pol/. Please don't be stupid.

>The enemies he was facing, like Stalin and Churchill, were far worse criminals, and the combined allied bombing of Germany and Japan resulted in far more civilian deaths than the holocaust
Reminder that he made them his enemies

Reminder that Soviet never bombed Japan

The guy was drug addled for most of his European escapades. Not to mention was heavily funded by American and British money to get there.

He did what most rockstars or any Veeky Forums user would have done under the same circumstances.

In the same token Stalin killed a lot more people then Hitler ever did. He killed his own country's people. The so called holocaust was modeled on the gulag which was far bigger and worse in every imaginable proportion. People only began to starve in the concentration camps at the end of the war where on the gulag people ate boiled grass and fought each other for pieces of bread.

>Stalin killed a lot more people then Hitler ever did
He didn't.
>The so called holocaust was modeled on the gulag which was far bigger and worse in every imaginable proportion.
It wasn't. In fact, it was easier to survive a Soviet camp than a German one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_mistreatment_of_Soviet_prisoners_of_war

>Soviet POWs held by Germans
>57% died

>German POWs held by Soviets
>35.8% died

>He honestly did love his country with all his heart and was a patriot who wanted the best for his country

Oh boy... Just like he did with Stefanie?

Play Wolfenstein: The New Order then.

But you know they were actually nuking Japan instead of gasing and shooting people into rivers.

Fuck this left and right shit just use some common sense

Be me

> die
> go to heaven
> greeted by Hitler
"WTF I THOUGHT YOU'D BE IN HELL!?"

Hitler "Nein, God agreed with me about the no jews thing."

> MFW Christianity is anti-semtic

Can we seriously stop with this "Stalin was evil" meme? How can any self respecting historian reduce a complicated topic to banal black and white buzzwords.

Everyone who knew hitler said he was a very nice person and a very respectful gentleman. He honestly did love his country with all his heart and was a patriot who wanted the best for his country.

Sure he wasn't perfect and made many mistakes, crimes even. But he was in a very very tough situation, and he tried to make the best of it and do what he believed is right. The enemies he was facing, like Hitler and Tojo, were far worse criminals, and the combined axis invasion of Soviet Union and China resulted in far more civilian deaths than the holocaust.

Stalin was not the personification of evil. He was a man who loved his country who made som bad and ill thought out decisions in very tough circumstances when he was facing far worse opponents bent on destroying his country.

*Holodomor

>Commits genocide
>Not evil

By all accounts he was a petulant child in person who carried a dog whip around with him everywhere. He was not a statesman

Dude, plz help, I'm being raped while I type thnikv-wöapävswerf

>History is written by the winners though
>this fucking meme

Be me

>Die
>Conscience ends and there is no afterlife
>I have wasted the precious gift of life
>Everything is coming to an end
>Emma watson was just a little kid now she is nearing 30
>I left myself a note saying: you now have less time to live then when you wrote this

Evil is just a social construct.
Hitler was different and in his eyes and the eyes of the people he represented did nothing wrong.
All he did was for his great cause and all that were against his great cause suffered for it.

>When one climbes over the bones of others to get higher it's easy to point and hate if you're afraid to make the climb yourself.

It were those that climbed the pile of bones to throw him off that actually made him appear the greatest monster among them.

If you find Hitler Evil so should Stalin, Hirohito, Konoe, Mussolini, Roosevelt and Churchill be considered Evil.

All spread death among the innocent to achieve their goals.

i thought i was the only one that hated hearing that

ignoring the whole genocide bit that most people will point to

hitler built the "fixed" economy on projects that he couldn't afford, and lied to the people about their economic prosperity. in truth, his economic "growth" was entirely dependent on the war effort, and win or lose in the end, would've had germany either back in the same position it was or even worse.

the man sold one hell of a lie that still persists to this fucking day.

kill his dog?

hitler was a total cunt and an incompetent retard

>implying Hitler wasn't evil
>implying he wasn't fucked in the head
>had Berthold Von Stauffenberg of the Valkyrie conspirators strangled with piano wire and then resuscitated, so that he could be strangled again, over and over
>had it filmed for his personal amusement in what is probably one the earliest snuff films

Hitler was a little shit

>growth" was entirely dependent on the war effort, and win or lose in the end
I always hear this but no one explains further - can you tell me why it would have failed without its war industry?

Everything believed by unironic natsocs can be disproven by the very things the unironic natsocs agree happened in WW2.

I won't list all of them, but I'll just start from the beginning of WW2.

>poland was genociding innocent krauts in danzig!
>germany invaded to stop the polish!!!

So why isn't there a single propaganda reel that talks about numbers, names, stories of the tragic loss?

Or was that destroyed by the victors because reasons......

To develop the country's military forces and military infrastructure, Hitler basically sacrificed the entirety of the German economy, especially its hard currency reserves. By 1938, the foreign exchange of Germany was basically nonexistant, and it was fortuitous (or planned) that in the next year and a half, sizable amounts of gold and currency were seized from Austria and Czechoslovakia.

Hitler's decision to go to war over Poland was also calculated in large part by the fact that the Nazi economic machine was basically on the brink of burning itself out. It was only by taking the measures that wartime conditions alone could justify, and by (again) seizing much of Poland's wealth, that Germany could ensure it's (still ongoing) military buildup would proceed apace; the trade agreement signed with the USSR also helped matters.

Knowledge of the instability of Germany's economy wasn't a very well-kept secret either; Allied leaders during the winter of 1939-40 believed that Germany's economy would simply collapse on its own accord. Chamberlain famously said that Hitler had "missed the bus" by not attacking France after the fall of Poland. Of course, the Western Allies were proven completely wrong when Germany overran Europe so quickly, but it was a fairly safe assumption that Germany's economy would otherwise have been completely unprepared for the sort of WWI-style attrition battle that everyone was expecting.

In short, German economic growth between 1933 was completely immaterial. All of the employment gains came at the expense of actual, substantial economy improvements. All of the state's effort and investment was sunk into the improvement of the military machine. Had World War II not started when it did, and had Germany not enjoyed such early successes, the economy would have completely collapsed for want of currency. German economic "growth", therefore, was unsustainable without the sort of plundering of other countries.

You stop it by not doing the exact opposite, "Hitler did nothing wrong" is equally stupid. Both prevent reasonable discourse of events&accounts of the man.

peple say this a lot, but I have my doubts

hitler spent most of Germans cash initially, but today we would call that "stimulus"
then consider the deflation of the german currency after ww1, hitler knew the value of german currency could be manipulated to hurt german interest, where gold could not

and when one says he "siezed" the czech and austrian gold, these are countries were he had a great deal of pollitical support (not enough to win an ellection, but non the less)
and this gold was not simply stolen, it was part of a broader economic consoliadtion that would have seen these countries in the winning bloc
I see it like the expansionism of the USSR

and maybe it's moving the goalposts, but why is winning a war not a good ecconomic plan?
you couldn't exactly say hitler never could have won

Winning a war isn't a good plan when you plan of fighting the whole world.

well I'm sure there are 50 thread a week on ww2

but at the end of the day the nazi party asn't fighting alone
the nationalist movement was strong )though often seperate as is it's nature) in many european countries

american intervention was entirely predatory
russian intervention is a complex issue, I don't personally think it was ever a given considering their mixed relationship with the sino-middle east regions
knowing germany was weak they could have steamrolled everythign south of them then germany/ussr could have had cold war

hitler could feesably have invaded a few countries, sued the smaller ones for peace on reasonably neutral terms
started a few puppet governments in egypt, france, poland
kept austria as glorious unification
the british might not have held the mediteranean (?) if the falange had a firm grip of spain and greece was fascist

unity against hitler is a purely revisionist notion

I wish /pol/ would stop infecting the boards I browse.

I was on /sp/ the other day talking about a coach in the NFL that sucked dick Nd this virgin had the audacity to say "good goy believe that chip Kelly is a bad coach" when that nigga clearly sucks dick.
The only board not infected with these retards is /trv/.

We don't need fucking Hitler threads every day. We get it. You miss him. Go circle jerk each other on /pol/.

>Inb4 le pol boogey may may, I browse /pol/ I know it isn't a white power board that everyone makes it out to be..but , shi just like Germany, a few retards can ruin the reputation of an entire group of people.

>deflation of the german currency after ww1
Inflation.
>these are countries were he had a great deal of pollitical support
Not in Czechoslovakia.

hilter did only one thing right

suicide

I concede both of your points, however I think my argument still stands

there was both the pollitical climate for hitler to sue-out of the war halfway, and the inflation of the mark due to repayment of bullshit "war debts" that hitler was wise to sieze gold and use the mark as stimulus

if they lost the war, the mark would be trashed but their gold could still buy them favours

if they won the war they would probably have re-valued the mark unilaterally based on it's issuing to new territories
the flood of wartime rebuilding (paid for partly with gold) would have launched that

with no army germany could only ever grow so big without someone musceling in on them, such is machpolitix

two at the least

noice

hitler personally ordered her to keep on living
she was a champion even after the war
and died with her blood black and red

"And what have we now in Germany? A land of bankers and car-makers. Even our great army has gone soft. Soldiers wear beards and question orders. I am not ashamed to say I believed in National Socialism. I still wear the Iron Cross with diamonds Hitler gave me. But today in all Germany you can't find a single person who voted Adolf Hitler into power ... Many Germans feel guilty about the war. But they don't explain the real guilt we share – that we lost."