Right wing nationalism in Ireland has been basically non existant since the 1960s.
Any remaining "nationalists" are radical socialists, with the far-left monopolising any republican events.
So Veeky Forums, are there any other examples in the 20th century where the left are the principal nationalists of a country?
Brody Young
Man I fucking hate Ireland this place is a shithole but I am glad we don't have any of those right wing fuckers
Thomas Collins
>Ghandi's revolution in India >African National Congress >SNP >Plaid cymru
What are Left wing nationalists like in Ireland? I'm from Scotland and most SNP supporters are unbearable. The majority of their arguments are just anti-tory and they seem to think that growing up in a scheme and talking like you've got a mouth full of marbles makes you more suited to politics than somebody essentially raised from birth for the role.
Not to denigrate the working class but I'm of the opinion that there needs to be a certain degree of emotional distance between the ruling class and the working class so that tough decisions can be made effectively..
Gabriel Wilson
Probably similar to Scottish nationalists in their poxy economic views.
However, some are quite fond of dressing up in paramilitary garb and holding stupid parades. They see themselves as the successors to the IRA yet most are either scumbag criminals or stupid unemployable wanders.
Politically, Sinn Fein is probably the most mainstream of the left wing parties, similar to the SNP. Then you have the AAA-PBP, a populist party that attract the dregs of society. Both have made major gains in the last few years.
Brayden Rogers
If only the left wing shower fucked off
Nathan Torres
In America the "republican party" is liberal aka left wing.
Logan Perez
>I'm glad to live in a shithole and place I hate as long as this group of people that I hate because my feelings doesn't exists
You must really hate yourself.
Christian Martin
Welcome to Life
Justin Baker
I'm from tallaght myself, The AAA seem very popular here, god i cant stand paul murphy!
Dylan Baker
Smug baldy fucker
Alexander Murphy
Any nationalism that sets itself in opposition to another more powerful and well-established nationalism will tend towards leftism if it doesn't evolve into becoming outright religious.
John Thomas
>this place is a shit hole >all we have are left wing parties
No shit.
Dylan Wood
This is the most retarded thing I've ever read.
Luke Barnes
how's your first 5 minutes on Veeky Forums going?
Christopher Robinson
Actually we only have one left wing party and they're not in power. But in society we don't have any extreme right wingers, only left wingers.
I'm emigrating in like 3 months so
Brandon Flores
what do you dislike about it here
Dublin here and it's not the greatest sure but it's hardly better anywhere else
Mason Jones
Sure look, we all fuckin die
Grayson Wood
This Do you have arguments beside "it's retarded" ? Every nationalism sets in opposition to another nationalism in recent history evolved into far-left movement (like in Cuban, against american imperialism's puppet Batista or currently in Venzuela) or into religious movements (like in Iran against american imperialism's puppet Shah, or in Afghanistan with the Talibans)
Caleb Bailey
nationalism is haram in Islam isn't it?
David Jackson
They're not nationalists they're cryptojew goodgoyim working to destroy the nation
James Scott
>thread about right wingers >posts Eirigi, who are hard-left knackers
Lincoln Barnes
Apparently not in Iran or in Turkey. Also, every independance processus in modern history were either pushed by the left (The US independance was pushed by progressives individuals, thus at the time at the "left" ) or by religious beliefs ( Hidalgo in Mexico for exemple )
Easton Reyes
Precisely user thank you. Not specifically but that so is suicide and the jihadists do plenty of that and it doesn't stop them.
Jackson Stewart
The culture here is fucking poison. It's anti-intellectual. It's impossible to express yourself here.
Oliver Fisher
I think Socrates probably had the same thought at some point. Stay and fight.
Sebastian Price
Lel no they are far right in most of the world.
William Barnes
Well, Socrates was eventually forced to kill himself so i don't think that's a good exemple.
Luke Rivera
Don't come to the US. We don't need anymore cancerous leftists
Leo Cruz
But in so doing he changed the trajectory of his civilization. Plus I don't think that's literally gonna happen to you. Ireland doesn't even have the death penalty
Robert Harris
I'll be back one day to fight. But for now I need to leave.
Why the fuck would I go to America it's literally the worst country on earth right now
Isaiah Thompson
Top kek
Aaron Perez
>Why the fuck would I go to America it's literally the worst country on earth right now Westerns who don't know how good they have it are the worst people on the planet. Anybody who says any western country is the "literal worst guys!1!!!!11!!" should be immediately deported to North Korea
Nathaniel Watson
He'd probably enjoy it until his propaganda value dropped. Then he'd see life for how it really is there and try to flee
Jayden Gonzalez
For example?
>leftism turns out to be anti-establishment Wow what a surprise!
Jordan Watson
Is that a Haggis?
Kayden Ward
He's a leftist, they all hate themselves and their country.
Nolan Taylor
>>leftism turns out to be anti-establishment >Wow what a surprise! more that leftists are innately attracted to the weak, a subtle but more important distinction
Michael Anderson
You are a pretentious idiot.
Bentley Evans
>petitions for unlimited third world mass immigration and the "inclusion" of muslims >nationalist
Xavier Nelson
It's not like any other countries are much different. You'll encounter crab bucket mentalities everywhere fella. Also you might be having difficulties getting yer views across because you sound like a thick cunt. Or you might just be so boring that nobody gives a fuck what you have to say. t.Carlowman
Josiah Phillips
>implying the USA doesn't quite literally have multiple pockets of third world poverty across the country
Lucas Martin
>Liberalism is right wing WRONG
Carson Rogers
So Veeky Forums, are the UVF /our guys/?
Brayden Peterson
In Europe, Catalonia and Euskadi In Latin America there are strong left nationalist parties
Lucas Murphy
>implying any other nation also doesn't have pockets of shit wew lad, you do know there's more to the US than just the rustbelt meme cities, right?
Mason Foster
Dubliner here.
I was once like you. Hated the intellectually rotted societies and idealogues. Held disdain for the common and the rare. This was before I discovered that the it's extremely tame in it's consumerist values compared to many of the bigger Western countries incl. US, UK, France and Germany. Start looking towards the micro instead of the macro and you'll find Irish folk are truly a poetic people and the culture, urban and rural, is something to preserve, even for how much it's represented by people who don't truly understand the soul and essence. You should read some Oscar Wilde and James Joyce and you'll get what I mean and you'll rediscover your love for the obscure seals of the country.
Isaiah Myers
This Ever been to West Virginia? It's where I grew up and god damn there wasn't a rich soul in the state. Best you'd get is middle class with most people of age in the house working or people risking their lives in the mines for relatively piss-poor pay with companies that dodge laws so that they don't have responsibility if a miner dies. Worst case you have people on the streets or starving out in the wilderness. On top of all of this, we'e been ravaged by addiction for the past five years. Democracy doesn't matter for shit for a starving man, and we have plenty.
Jose Williams
These pockets are however at large not "the worst" pockets. They are horrible, but never as bleak as an oldworld slum or the rural areas of dictatorships.
Getting born in a Trailerpark with an alkoholic dad and a methheadmother in america STILL gives you more chances to make something out of your life or enjoy a little bit of it then getting your clit sewn shut and be destined a slave in some sahelzone shithole, as a Shudra in the conservative parts of northindia or being a serv in best korea.
Superlatives are being used way too often by crybabys.
Jack Anderson
>Republican party >Liberal Maybe 10 years ago. They've become a far right nationalist party, a transformation cemented by Trump's victory.
Josiah Ward
>Not to denigrate the working class but I'm of the opinion that there needs to be a certain degree of emotional distance between the ruling class and the working class so that tough decisions can be made effectively.. Like fucking your kids?
Ryder Murphy
Latin America is a reversal of the pattern in European countries. The right is globalist and concentrated in the cities, while the left is nationalist, populist, and have more strenght in the countryside.
Jose Wood
Democrats are liberal in economics and social attitudes. Republicans are now protectionist and reactionary.
Nathaniel Gonzalez
I never understood left-wing Irish nationalist.
They want to kick the British out, then invite in all Blacks and Arabs from Africa and the Middle East.
Nathaniel Lee
They've got common ground in the fact they have been repressed by larger powers for most their lives. Get them all drunk and they will integrate in a matter of time.
Daniel Lee
there is urban working class left and also traditional catholic right in the interior, Uruguay is the typical example
Ian Price
Democrats arent pro market economy, since the 2007 crisis they all went full socialist
Carter Anderson
It quite literally doesn't. You have no fucking idea what 'third world poverty' is if you think this remotely applies to any large number of people in America. >On top of all of this, we'e been ravaged by addiction for the past five years. The fact that appalachia is full of meth-heads proves the people there aren't actually poor, just morons who are bad at life.
Levi Cooper
Well put user. The suffering of the western world's 'poor' is largely self-inflicted.
Oliver Nelson
>It quite literally doesn't. You have no fucking idea what 'third world poverty' is if you think this remotely applies to any large number of people in America. Don't care about your contrary opinion, it's of no value to me since I've been to these places and know people who have also. Your country is a shithole on both ends of the class spectrum.
Kevin Parker
We've been poor for most of our existence, the drug epidemic just comes from the poor education we get from poorly managed schools and out-of-date books, plus we had a lot of over-prescriptions of addictive drugs. The transition from pills to meth just happened because meth was cheaper, but meth ended up being much deadlier, so what was a dormant problem most didn't know about quickly turned into a massive problem for our already poor medical infrastructure.
Jordan Campbell
cuckolded oirish detected
Nathan Price
>Open Borders, free trade, neo-liberalism, globalism, internationalism > far right nationalist party Wew lad.
Jose Jenkins
Actually the Arabs were a great power during several caliphs. Even afterwards they were hardly slouches. Likewise Blacks aren't a monolithic group. Some were regional powers, others weren't,
Julian Cox
It's a choice thing.
Jayden Hughes
Fenians have always been conformists.
Gavin Young
This. Leftists nationalism almost always comes from minority peoples. Examples are non-English (Welsh, Scottish, Irish) nationalisms in the British Isles, Spanish minorities (Catalan and Basque) and Kurdish nationalism which competes with Turkish, Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian nationalism.
Andrew Mitchell
I'm an Irish nationalist and right wing so no, it's not all lefties. Ireland is for the gaels, no one else.