Who was worse? Communists or nazis? I want Veeky Forums opinion, cause I heard many different

Who was worse? Communists or nazis? I want Veeky Forums opinion, cause I heard many different.

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the end result for the eastern europeans was more or less the same

Depends on whether the g-plan ost was real or not.

for immediate impact, the nazis hands down

for long term influence, the commies for obvious reasons

cannot really compare the two as they operated under wildly different circumstances/lengths of time - if you compare the ww2 and thereabouts, then the nazis get the nod, but for what the soviets were lacking at that time they perhaps have made up with four more decades of utter shit

Nazis were much more heinous, backstabbing, and evil. Worse ideology.

Communists overall held more power and were able to cause a nuclear war, on top of the ability to roll through Europe at the height of their power and being as powerful as the entire NATO. Communism is somewhat better than Nazism but fuck it either way and it was way too close to actual world domination.

Stalin killed more people because he ruled longer and over more people.

But the Nazis would have killed a lot more people if they were able to have their way.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost

Rosenberg was a hack and nobody in Nazi government liked him. His plan was shit and a place holder and he had no real means of implementing.

he had been put in charge just to make him feel special.

>wikipedia

Nazis. They were evil both ideologically (we kill innocents, because we believe its right) and pragmatically (We kill innocents, because they oppose us). Soviets were evil pragmatically, but not that much ideologically.

>le good and evil meme

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Commies lasted longer.

if you'r even asking you'r a faggot

Fuck off, mental midget.

The nazis were not bad

Nazis because they killed over 30 million people compared to around 3 million in the entire history of communist regimes.

Stalin only killed more people if you ignore that the Nazis were at fault for WW2 and thus are responsible for pretty much every death in the European theatre.

>Communist regimes only killed 3 million people

Oh boy.

There might be people who'll prefer communism to gas chamber, though. Vast majority of them.

Commies.

You chose.
youtube.com/watch?v=Pn1xzeQy1Lk

He chose what?

How would I fucking know?

nazis rekt themselves faster
however donated half of europe to soviets doing that

But you implied that you did in your post.

underage detected

Grats on finally getting a mirror, champ.
You're moving up in life.

under communism, all of society was included in the ideological project known as communism. regardless of the atrocities and human rights violations, every soviet citizen was expected to participate in ideological activities

for example, the prisoners in the gulags all gathered together and were forced to sign a birthday card for stalin, to show solidarity with the leader of the workers in a world fraught with capitalist oppression. it was an ideological act rooted in philosophy, despite the threat of violence if one refused

another example is the use of show trials; everyone knew the defendant would be found guilty, but they still went through the effort to make arguments and extract confessions from offenders to give legitimacy to the ideological purity of the communist movement, which was meant to reverberate throughout society

nazism was different. the jews in auschwitz did not get together and sign a card for hitler, nor did they go through trials, they were simply exterminated

for this reason I believe nazism is far more barbaric, despite the countless atrocities committed by communist governments

Ops, I misspelled *choose.

are you being retarded on purpose or just a butthurt tankie?

National socialists = Good
Communists = Bad

Fact.

Only if you mean national socialist from Czechoslovakia, though.

>Being killed by your own group
Feelsbadman

>Being killed because you're an outsider.
That's horrible, far worst and more barbaric.

Literally cucked

They both were quite terrible, but I think there is a key difference in that the nazis went about killing people in a very scientific and industrial manner, while the commies just stuck to the old ways which while they did kill many people were not as bad as I think the nazis would have been had they been allowed to survive.

>despite the countless atrocities committed by communist
Count them please

Do you really not understand what countless means?

literally shitpost

>be german
>speak german
>have german lineage that dates back thousands of years
>be intergrated in german communities for generations
>just so happen to be jewish

>outsider

really made my neurons fire

We can't, since they're countless :^)

But here's a few examples you might've heard of.
Spanish civil war
German civil war
USSR and all it brings (Fucked up the better part of two continents)
Red China and all it brings (Destroyed millions of historical records of ancient chinese culture, ethnography, and religion)

>German civil war
Were there atrocities commited by socialists?

>Generalplan Hoax
Dropped

>jews
>german
pick one

>jews
>integrated in german communities
pick one

>Spanish civil war
me lo puedes explicar facha comemierda?

USA and UK was worse.

>Believing the Holomemor

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hitler wanted to rake out the weeds from the crops, stalin raked out the crops from the weeds

Literal cuck

>Hitler was a real person guys, I swear!
This fucking meme again.

Spanish civil war was waged AGAINST communists by hysterical fascists. The Spartacist revolt was pretty justified, and didn't lead to very many dead.

*xoxlomor

>le communism is good in theory meme

loving every laugh

Civil war was pretty inevitable at that point in spanish history.
But I'm not gonna disagree with you, the fashists started the war and were supported by fashist regimes.

Commies.

Who would you give 1000 nuclear weapons given a choice? Stalin or Hitler?

well both were equal in terms of war mongering, and both committed horrible atrocities, but the nazis take the edge when you consider they engaged in an industrialized genocide and also held some insane meme belief that flirted with magic and shit.

pretty much this

>The Spartacist revolt was pretty justified

no it wasnt. It was just communist trying to take over a newly formed democracy. Rosa and Karl got what they deserved

the communists were also pretty memey about their beliefs
lysenkoism for example

True, but I feel that Nazi memed harder, as Stalin was a bit more pragmatic than Hitler.

>making a democracy more democratic is a bad thing

hmmm

>violently trying to over throw a government because you cant get democratically elected in is more democratic

Im going to need two helicopters for this post

Yes it is

Commies were much worse.

At least the Nazis would ask you for your chicken before taking it from your farm. That's the only difference really.

>Who was worse? Communists or nazis?
If you mean "Stalinists" by communists, then they're both worse.

*Holomeme

Jews in Germany and Austria were generally very integrated at the time.

Unless you were polish.

>Just killing your enemies is more barbaric than making them dance around like puppets for your amusement before you finally kill them.

wew lad
I hope I never wind up tied up in YOUR basement.

For the everyday Germans that weren't Jewish, disabled, mentally ill or of gypsy descent, I'd say life was better (until England started bombing them) than for the average Soviet system.

However, the holocaust was mass produced genocide, and I can't really think of a Communist example of such cold genocide.

But, on the other hand, the other communist states, such as in Cambodia were both crazy and brutal. Stalin was just neglectful and as cruel and coldhearted as most dictators are.

On the whole, if you're comparing just the USSR and Nazi Germany, I'd say it's slightly worse for your average USSR citizen, but the Nazis' systematic purging of minority groups was still inhumane.

However, once you add in other communist regimes, then communism becomes clearly worse. Killing fields, for example. Or the Great Leap Forward's famine, and Cultural Revolution.

>le froggy shitpost
The wiki article provides 38 sources and references. You provide nonen

>famine is now genocide
>Industrializing countries which have been neglected for centuries and have basically feudal economies is a bad thing

Get this fucking kulak out of here

>Country with a military that has more than a hundred year old tradition of coups
>Sanjurjo literally organized a coup the year prior and instead of being executed was exiled to Lisbon.
>Republican government couldn't react in time to the coup
>Communist and anarchist militias had been warning the Republic for months before the coup to arm them in case of a military uprising
>Surprise, surprise more than half of the military organize a coup
>Resist more than 3 years fighting the fascist because of self organized communist and anarchist militias

M-muh coup from the commies, they are just as bad

Both shit
Democracy also shit

Rupprecht shouldve seized the throne tvqh

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>Rupprecht
????

whore deserved it

Commies if only for their duration

>>>/l/eftypol

>le nazism
>le communism
Choose your poison. Both anti-freedom, both anti-individualistic, both took shit on people, propaganda everywhere, both mass-murderers.
As an ordinary person you would suffer under both, but under USSR you would have way more place to actually change state and people, and if in western countries, it wouldn't take long and kill itself in like 10 yrs max.
Commies were better.

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>>>/fag/got

nazis were worse since their ideology did create more world tension and it was impossible to coexist with nazis but it was possible to coexist with communists

hell vs purgatory.

Japan started it.

Fuck off antifa

The famine was caused by ineptitude. I never said it was genocidal.

But they had ethnic death quotas...

Yeah, im sure that if Nazis have won the leftovers of Slavs like Czechs or Poles would get along with Germans just fine.

If I had to choose I'd rather live in a NatSoc state, as long as I have the right ethnicity and nationality that they want

Now, regarding the picture you attached, for the area that is in the picture... It's most likely that for east europe, Soviets were the lesser evil.

Yes, starvation in Ukraine, corruption, harvest failures everywhere, but I think it's better than being under control of a nation that considers your entire ethnicity as subhuman.

>Nazis didn't like some guy named Rosenberg
Wonder why

Communism. Nazism is more evil, but less appealing to the general population, so it's less infectious and doesn't have the ability to do as much damage.

Now, the non-nazi neutral fascists, Salazar, Franco, and Peron, they were just outright good guys.

I wonder if the roles were reversed and the Nazis established themselves as the power to challenge the US for the next fifty years while the Soviets fell if you would say the opposite.

If in the majority nazism would be better if a minority than communism would be better

King of Bavaria
Nazis a shit
Commies a shit
Both unrightful usurpers

>retarded americans saying commies

good job retards, good job

Of the nazis were given the same amount of time as the USSR, then I would say they were equal. With the amount of people killed by the USSR, I'd say they were worse for the world.

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