"Orthodox Christians have never believed the Earth is 6,000 years old or that Genesis was a literal account...

>"Orthodox Christians have never believed the Earth is 6,000 years old or that Genesis was a literal account, that's just a Protestant heresy!!!"
>reading the works of the Porphyrogenitus from the 10th century
>literally refers to dates as "Year 6100 since the Creation" (Anno Mundi')

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Orthodox Christians believe a lot of retarded, heretical stuff, and then try to claim they don't when called out on it.

that was a troll though. the trip isn't the same one used by Constantine

>muh heresy!

Can you Christcucks come up with something better?

what happened to Constantine anyway

I'm not 100% sure, but I think he just dropped the trip and doesn't post as much. The other day, I was on a different Christianity thread where an user had some very Constantine-ish points and style of argument, and it dumps a lot of weight on poor coincidence to assume there are two people with such similar views and ways of speaking.

probably still posting, he just decided to stop using the trip. he has a youtube channel:
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That's a dude. Constantine is a chick.

He believed the earth was 6100 years old.

no, Constantine is a tranny

>mfw anybody today believes the world is ~6000 years old

she decided to change her tactics and become the obnoxious tripfag known as the turkposter
>only shits on catholics and protestants
>never talked shit about the orthodox branch
>all while making people hate turks/muslims at the same time

I don't understand what sort of atheist glory this is suppose to represent. Besides a narrow branch of American Protestants, the date of the Earth wasn't a contentious branch of discussion among European Christendom. Like a lot of things, people incorrectly thought the earth was a certain amount of years old and when substantial evidence was brought forward arguing otherwise people accepted it.

Again, besides a particular branch of American Protestants, Christians never cared or clung on strongly to the belief the earth is only several thousands year old like atheist make it seem.

The issue is they retroactively try to say that young earth creationism was never a big thing is linked specifically to protestantism. quite regularly catholics will attack even the idea that chapter 1 of Genesis was ever intended to be literal and will say atheists are just as retarded as YEC's for thinking so

You understand that the Bible was the only thing people had to calculate the age of the earth, right? Its not like two groups of people perpetually existed in the 1000s. One group of young earth creationist and one group who weren't.

His youtube channel got leaked and it turned out that he was pretty much the archetypal Christposter: A fad chasing loser who knew nothing about the subject and just made things up that were "cool". And, y'know, he was a mentally ill tranny.

Constant has a penis. Sure, he believes the Virgin Mary came to him in a dream and revealed that Yeshua was an assbaby and that he should cut his own cock off and become a women to cleanse himself of sin. But he was born with a Y chromosome, and has a penis.

The majority of Christians in America are Protestant, and the majority of religious people in America are Christian, so the majority of Religion vs Atheism debates in America are going to be Protestantism vs Atheism. Why is this hard to understand?

I'm not attacking people in the past for believing in YEC, I'm just attacking the attempts to whitewash past tradition in the present

>I'm just attacking the attempts to whitewash past tradition in the present
Ask yourself: Was the age of earth really a theological issue in Orthodoxy? Or just an observation people made? If the age of the earth isn't a theological issue, Orthodox making the claim their religion was never YEC is legitimate.

>Orthodox lie to make themselves look smrat
>anyone is surprised

God continues to punish them with death and corruption, yet they still won't take a hint.

Shame really, but Tradshits are retarded LARPers so can't expect much from them

>Was the age of earth really a theological issue in Orthodoxy? Or just an observation people made?
it's literally in the scriptures. I don't know the specifics on their doctrine regarding scripture and whether it's infallible but minimally it's inspired by the holy spirit. notice that even when they know that the earth wasn't created in 6 days they say that it's a metaphor. They can't admit that the scripture itself was wrong.

>If the age of the earth isn't a theological issue, Orthodox making the claim their religion was never YEC is legitimate.
the way that you are framing this is fallacious. according to this YEC is not a possible theological position, just something that can be held due to ignorance or sola scriptura. The fact is they held this belief thanks to the former and to say otherwise is to deny the past.

>it's literally in the scriptures
No it isn't.

let's go through this, shall we?

>In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

let's read that last line again, because often people will mention that "day" in the hebrew can also mean a vaguer "period" of time:

>And the evening and the morning were the first day.
You'll see that each day ends with this to make sure you don't get confused on what "day" means. tell me, what period of time has an evening and morning? that's right, a day.

>actually believing denominations theology than doing your own exegesis

Who the fuck said that? The Byzantine calendar literally started at 5500 BC.

Christians traditionally used the genealogies in Genesis to calculate the date of creation, that's why even people like Augustine and Origen who were skeptical of the days of creation were still young earth creationists.

Saint Augustine (A.D. 354-430) in his work The Literal Meaning of Genesis (De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim) provided excellent advice for all Christians who are faced with the task of interpreting Scripture in the light of scientific knowledge. This translation is by J. H. Taylor in Ancient Christian Writers, Newman Press, 1982, volume 41.

>Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he hold to as being certain from reason and experience. Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men.

>If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although
they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion. [1 Timothy 1.7]

> Sure, he believes the Virgin Mary came to him in a dream and revealed that Yeshua was an assbaby and that he should cut his own cock off and become a women to cleanse himself of sin
Lol what? Did he really say that?

nah, that's just cathorthodox exagerating in the other direction.
It was pretty common among the laity and patristic authors to be YEC(they actually were pretty adamant sometimes when talking to the pagans about it), but there was a ton of symbolism, maybe-ism, and mystical significance in their interpretations which allowed for evolutionarish views.
Also, modern creationism IS a direct result of the modernist-fundamentalism dispute of protestantism.