Why is Marxism only popular among the middle and upper classes

and not the working class?

seems like the only marxists today are privileged white kids (probably middle to upper middle class)

they don't have to work, so they've got more time to waste on doing whatever.

It's what they learned in school.

I guess, because working class got no time for the marxist studies. It isn't a good entry level ideology.

Because Marxists fundamentally misunderstand class oppression. They think that the dominant upper class suppresses the lower classes and does so to maintain their power: The analogy is that of master and slave.

In reality, the upper classes are the upper classes because the lower ones put them there. They shrink from power and authority and demand that someone rule over them. The true relationship is that between cuck and bull.

>popular
implying

There is no such thing as a middle class in marxism to begin with.
Wealthiest members of working class are more involved into marxism because of this>It isn't a good entry level ideology.
Do you think that a factory worker can have spare time to read Capital? Sure he can, but he won't understand shit and he won't have time to do something more important.
>seems like the only marxists today are privileged white kids
And you fail. They're not marxists, since they're not materialists. Privileged white kids are far from any marxist theory. How many of them have read Marx, Engels, Lenin, Bernstein, Kautsky? I bet they know only the first three.
>upper classes
And you fail again. The members of the upper classes (the owners of the means of production), which interests do they have? To keep the cash flowing. And for the sake of cash they can do anything, from making some give-and-takes like agreeing for the New Deal to organizing Salvador-tier death squads.

No one in the West takes Marxists seriously except Marxists themselves.

West has no marxists. Some may be influenced by Marx, but nothing more.

I think that in most countries, this is a post-cold war thing.

Nothing makes me smirk more than the american so called left wing whining that lower class white americans are the problem

>There is no such thing as a middle class in marxism to begin with.
Petite Bourgeoisie?

Anyway, it's sad to see how oblivious most Marxists are to the Labour Theory of Value and its critiques.

How do they argue for the inevitability of the downfall of capitalism without it?

The working class doesn't enjoy the kind of comfort and luxury where they realise the futility of materialism and become willing to share. Their reality is too cutthroat for noble ideals.

>seems like

Labor aristocracy.

because those arent marxists and your entire political classification system is borked

>neoliberals are not marxists in the US of A

Because working class people instinctively know from experience that the middle and upper classes never act in the interests of working people.

When a pasty suburban California academic Jew with priests' hands says he's going to build a totalitarian state to "liberate the working class," every flyover blue collar redneck Christian knows instinctively that he's only serving the interests of his own class, the nomenklatura, and the working man will be footing the bill in blood.

Fuck Communism.

Kill a commie for Christ.

Socialism and social democracy is popular among the poor outside burger.

Marx has influenced these groups, but I think by Marxism you mean more abstract ideologies which are generally considered less pragmatic and more ideological and so are less popular. You have to be steeped in the lore like a trekky to develop an interest in it.

Because Marxists are either very stupid idiots (few of them now) or just smart politicans using this label for own career and not really belive in this bullshit.

Lower class folk tend to be more religious, and Marx was quite opposite. All they know is that commies are atheists, therefore they can go fuck themselves.

>seems like the only marxists today are privileged white kids (probably middle to upper middle class)

The PSL and WWP's candidates for 2016 were both working class minorities.

no true scotsman saves the left wing again

My father was working class, heavily involved with his union and taught me socialist ideas, history and theory from a young age.
Not sure where you're getting that from, do you happen to live in america?

One thing to consider is that in general ideology of any kind is rare in the working class. The most common amalgamation you could approximate is just populism.

They're only Marxists to assuage their guilt for being born wealthy brought upon them by the West's Judean slave morality and because they were born wealthy, they have no experience in how to create and maintain wealth.

>KGB financing Frankfurt school
Any proof of this?

Wiki it

Upper/middle class see themselves as Lenin
Working class see themselves at the people Lenin had shot

There's no need, working class lives relatively comfortable lives now. Only thing that makes them angry are those damn foreigners.

So who is suffering today?

Just looked through the Wikipedia page for the Frankfurt School. There were a lot of mentions of criticisms from other academic groups, a section about how Cultural Marxism is a conspiracy theory, and a lot of history.

Not one mention of the KGB, though.

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Most of the working class doesn't have the time or ability to care about esoteric economic theories and class critique. Marxism being a tool of the "totally not elite" elite is a feature though: Marx himself stated that it would be the domain of the bourgeois to lead the worker's revolution for the workers as they were the only ones with the time and ability to be professional revolutionaries.

In other words, the Marxist revolution is a bunch of upper middle class bourgeoisie using the working class as a tool in their war against the upper class.

>seems like the only marxists today are privileged white kids (probably middle to upper middle class)

Because you have a very caricatured post-70's American point of view.

Because they want to manipulate the poor by promising them things.
Most modern left wing political and academic circles are like this. They have their own vested interests.

>Why is Marxism popular

It isn't

because marxism is almost tailor made to appeal specifically to pseudo intellectual bourgeoisie people. Its an almost undefinable tome of jargon and dogma, akin to medieval clerics handling of the bible, that no working man has any patience for. Its the ultimate space cadet ideology that no one with a no bullshit/common sense attitude would like.

Theres also the fact that is for closeted aristocrats.

/thread

Only the middle and upper class has time to bother with that shit.

Because they don't struggle with the problem of economic disparity where they don't live life paycheck to paycheck barely everyday so they have the freedom to focus on social issues.
Some upper class people do want to give back to the unfortunate so they preach that they think everyone should be brought up to live a fair decent life where they don't have to suffer without thinking of the consequences that marxism brings everyone down to the lowest level.

> marxism brings everyone down
To be honest, we doesn't need the truly parasitic, ultra-rich capitalists who can't even spent all their money.

Mostly because you need to read a lot of books to understand marxism in an anti-communist society.
But this is only true for the USA, in the rest of the world there's plenty of marxists in the working class.