What is the political/applied philosophical solution to the modern women problem?

What is the political/applied philosophical solution to the modern women problem?

Is there even a way of re-applying lost moral standards and traditional social cohesion without resorting to a "conservative revolution" or authoritarianism with social conservatism on it's side?

There's no way to control others' morality. Once you tell them they're doing something wrong it triggers a fear response in their brains and completely shuts them off to what you say, hence why the abrasive proselytization of /pol/ and Christcucks on other religions/sects rarely works directly, if ever.

They have to want to change, and hedonism is too tasty a thing to spit out (which incidentally is the modern white woman's attitude towards the bbc)

>modern women problem

Whats the problem?

Problem being they're not sleeping with OP.

I think it is a personal issue not one that can be policed by the nanny states which make it much much worse.

Just have to play the dating game like the rest of us and when you turn 35 or so and have no luck then your best choice is to get a hobbie other than women. Or wait patiently for realistic sex dolls

I'm genuinely curious as well. I suppose OP things such as discrimination towards women or having a harder time to make a career without acting like men in certain fields.

That is already in place. No woman works in the oilfield, unless she gets a desk by the A/C.

>modern women problem?
kissless permavirgin detected

We've been over this many times OP, the reason women want nothing to do with you is because women can detect the underlying contempt that you have for them because after a lifetime of obsessing over free, instant-access porn, you can't help but think of them in terms of "are they meeting the unsolicited standards that I arbitrarily impose on them? Are they living for my sake or their own?" and because it's something you can't control, you hate them for it.

There is no women problem. People like freedom and they'll fight you for it if you come barging into their lives trying to take it from them.

>Is there even a way of re-applying lost moral standards and traditional social cohesion without resorting to a "conservative revolution" or authoritarianism with social conservatism on it's side?

Of course not. You can't expect gender norms to continue if you accept the premise of gender equality. If the genders are equal, then their differences are irrelevant, which means nothing in particular can be expected of them.

you have a crowd of apologists for it like people ITT

at least i'm almost in the 1% of something, right?

user tells it how it is

On a related note, how do we deal with the "angry virgin" modern male problem?

official state girlfriends to be doled out

>le altright vs SJW meme
The answer is obviously to have freedom and learn to use it responsibly.

That is the important question, but these shitty threads never even reach that point.

nobody ever brought up either of those things you queer

This asumes that a person doesn't hold himself and men to standards either. In fact the model is entirely based on that idea. The minute you introduce the concept that perhaps social norms have moved into unhealthy patterns and that men and women, while moving concurrently are going in different directions with different issues your argument loses validity.
Further you make the presumtion that everyone who is unimpressed with the state of affairs cannot participate in them, something that isn't true across the board. If it were the causation of this belief it would be far more correlated yet such beliefs appear in all manner of men.

>one of those sets of self reported numbers
oh boy I bet those are totally accurate

This

bullfucking shit, women will do whatever men tell them to do if they shout loud enough. If men want to, we can figuratively shove women back in the kitchen and back into traditonal roles. Who do you think gave women the rights and freedoms they have? We men did, and we can take them away. Look at countries like saudi arabia, women don't have what it takes to stand up to men. If men collectively get together and decide women have to stop being whores and we're going to collectively punish women who are whores, then women will have no choice but to comply. Trump's election is but merely a step in this direction. We've had enough of women's bullshit.

>women contemptueous of particular men
Okay, reasonable
>men contempteous of particular women
Fucking virgins, you need to stop that

Why can't people hate eachother freely. You can hate contempteous men but don't make it a grand ethical crusade, it's just that you don't like them. In the same way they don't like sluts. Isn't that just easier, everyone open and honestly admitting to not liking something?

here we go

You missunderstand, this is not coming from a place of resentment due to not being able to get sex, it's coming from concerns over the downfall of traditional pair bondings which are a mechanism for the production of healthy families which are the building blocks of societies and western civilization as a whole.

I'd argue that kisless virgins would have an even harder time in traditional social dynamics due to women knowing that relationships are serious thereby being even more selective.

nice argument, faggot

Some men have contempt towards women, but not for the reason(s) you stated.

As do some women, and their reasons aren't "hurr they can't get dick".

>why are people doing things i dont like
It doesnt affect you, let them ruin their lives and weed themselves out of the gene pool with uids and the pill. Giving people freedom is good sinceit helps you recognize who geniunely holds your standards and who is faking it to get married and will cheat the second that you do.

There is no incentive to play the dating game, the majority of women are used up and you can get sex via whatsapp or nightclubs. Girls worth dating are a dying breed and very rare.
This is not good for any community.

how about living in a society where those standards are fostered instead of mocked

freedom is a bullshit meme. Civilizations are built around order and stability and the rule of law. If something is deemed detrimental for the common good, you can't do it just because you feel like it. Its why things like drugs are banned even though its a victimless crime to use drugs yourself.

Women lack the self control or sense of accountability and responsibility to make decisions that will lead to a continuous and stable society. All they have is their hormones that want to fuck and make babies, whether its with their countrymen or foreign invaders. That's why when Germans invaded France, all the French women started sleeping around with the Germans. Women don't have the concept of loyalty or greater good, that's why you can't expect them to make decisions that will benefit society as a whole.

Everything comes with limitations, including freedom. Allowing unlimited sexual freedom is detrimental and serves no purpose other than fulfilling the sexual urges of perverted women and men. Placing necessary restrictions keeps families solid and healthy, and more children off the streets and stronger cultural values.

There are Saudi whores. Many women in conservative societies still behave like whores but behind closed doors. My point was you can't change a mindset by force.

Also, obligatory fedora tip.

>he believes women's stated partner number

I got a bridge to sell you

It actually affects all of us. Women slutting around means more unstable relationships, which means that the children coming of these relationships will have single moms and children of single moms are more likely to be criminal.

there'll always be the one percent of women that stay whores, but you can forcibly make the rest of the other 99% obedient, compared to western society where those 99% act like prostitutes.

>the state of society doesn't affect me

Friendly reminder sex is a human right

Ave

Like, it is not that being a whore in itself is detrimental. Society needs whores. Men have needs that need to be satisfied somewhere. It is just that right now we have TOO MANY whores.

The idea that sleeping around until you're thirty-five is a good idea.
Not forming nuclear families at 25.
It's really a modern man problem, too, though.
There is no "discrimination towards women," and "acting like men" means working hard.

Trump is a major whore proponent.

>The idea that sleeping around until you're thirty-five is a good idea.

It is, unless you are spooked.

How many women are still conservative? I went on a date with a cute upper 6/10 20 year old last week, is there a chance she was still a virgin?

>is there a chance she was still a virgin?

Sexual liberation is a spook

Yes. Millennials have less sex than any other generation since the 1920s.

If you fuck people for the ideology of sexual liberation, then yes, you are spooked.
If you fuck them for your own enjoyment and fulfillment, then no, you aren't spooked.

The only modern women problem I know of is that they are hella good at victimazing themselves, being a slut has been a thing forever

Civilisation is built on spooks tbqh. You can't have civilisation without massive spooking.

>Millennials have less sex than any other generation since the 1920s.

Who keeps making these up?

Fixation on your own "filfillment" is a spook.

Needing civilization is a spook.

Go back to cutting their Achilles's heel and take away their rights. Problem solved.

No, me and mine are the only thing that matters.
Self fulfillment is not at all spooky, it is rational and sensible.

Sociologists studying this subject.

You mean asking 80 people on reddit and writing a 6 page essay on it?

You don't even believe that, you just make pretend to on the internet


Pic related. It's you.

Wow, way to not make an argument and just project. Argue me or fuck off.

Because all the sex goes to the top males leaving behind frustrated beta orbiters.

There is no problem. You're just upset that you can't get laid.

Proofs?
It's innate in human nature to act like hedonistic jackasses. Honor and chastity are entirely man-made concepts.

>sex with strangers
>fulfilling
>constantly moving from one high of gratification and pleasure to the other
>fulfilling

I actually can get with these kinds of girls, but they still disgust me. I just lie and manipulate and deceive to get with them. Sometimes it's just too easy so I can't have any respect for them. The only girl I have true feelings for is a lesbian so...

Genuinely might do a St. Augustine desu

>What is the political/applied philosophical solution to the modern women problem?

Immigration.

Almost everyone can get laid but traditional pair-bonding has been ruined.

how high is your persuasion level brah

No, but that would be still more reliable than /r9k/ fags crying about women being whores.

>meet nice girl
>date for a while
>smart, cool, well put together
>"Lol I definitely don't want to have kids, I'm very adamant about this, maybe I'll adopt a kid in my 40s tho lol"


Every fucking time

yes it is, this a meme debate

SJWs think being a slut is great
altright think it shouldn't be allowed

every basic bitch says this in her early 20s, wait until she makes it to her late 20s/early 30s she'll be singing a different tune, all women are basically a hive mind that just regurgitate trends popular among their friends

the altright doesn't even exist lad it's just what the main street meteors call /pol/ shitposters and rebbitors

he's gonna put a supreme court justice that's gonna overturn roe vs wade and ban abortion, and he's gonna defund planned parenthood.

He's a manwhore but the conservative christians are gonna use him to run the female degenerate whores out of town.

Social pressure is the most effective way to change women. There is nothing worse to a women than being socially scorned for something. If men weren't so fucking desperate to get laid and actually held women to some standards they would be fine. But so many are so concerned with getting their dicks wet they let them run wild

I've got matches on Tinder, but how do I follow up?
Some of these girls are pretty cute, but I'm antisocial and can't start a conversation

Christianity. Tradicional, fundamentalist, uncompromising, bible-believing Christianity.

SJWs complain about being called SJWs too. You've decided to spout the same memes as a bunch of other people, you are not independent freethinkers who just happened to reach the same niche conclusions, accept your designation.

Wjy should men have to do shotty oilfield work. I should get paid just as mich as them at my retail job. At least im not contributing to the death of our planet.

>SJWs complain about being called SJWs too
They don't, ever
They take the term with pride

>"lol what a fucking virgin" is an argument on Veeky Forums
& Humanities was a msitake

>mechanism for the production of healthy families which are the building blocks of societies and western civilization as a whole.
Ancient Greece had this problem much more severely than we do

In Athens women were second class citizens whose fathers exercised tight control over their lives and they were restricted from leaving their houses except to attend religious services, their marriages were arranged by their fathers and they became the property of their husbands.

In ancient Sparta they thought that strong women made strong babies so they were encourages to exercise and assert themselves. While not having any de jure power, in practice they wielded so much influence in Spartan society that they were often derided as a "gynetopia", a place ruled by women.

Neither extreme solved the problems that ancient Greek city-states were having with population decline.

And while I agree with you that kissless virgins would have a harder time getting laid in the old ways, that doesn't stop a lot of them from thinking that it would be an effortless ticket to a qt3.14 for life

False.

Not if they're right-wing SJWs from /pol/

Guys, be serious, the sexual revolution wasn't so that women can fuck around, they always did that, now they can just openly admit it.

In the western world there were fucktons of whores since religion started getting separated from the state. Most people in the early 20th century married in their late twenties to early thirties, do you think they all stayed fucking virgins up until that point?

Women fuck around just as much as they did back when your grandpa was alive, the only difference is now they're PROUD and they talk about it openly and you idiots don't realize this discussion isn't a new but a few centuries old.

Good post

A good post, user.

>What is the political/applied philosophical solution to the modern women problem?

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t. kissless white knight virgin. I know plenty of guys who are sexist and get laid all the time.

It's not about women being whores, it is about women being vulgar shameless whores trying to one up each other talking about how many dicks they sucked at that one dude lmao party. It's about Lena Dunham talking about being on her period for two weeks straight.

Call me /r9k/ for wanting women to be more tactful.

Yeah , stop being a fucking faggot

>wanting someone to feel ashamed for having fun
>probably because you never have fun yourself

Why women? Why not hold men to the same standards? Because they're obviously held to other standards, otherwise we'd see threads about the "modern men problem".

>Why not hold men to the same standards?
Same reason I don't hold a cat to the same standards of a dog.

>dude you're a virgin lmao

>sex is an immoral, shameful act.
>stop having fun, it's disgusting
It's more about you being a faggot than a virgin, lmao

>Men and women are like cats and dogs
Literally what?
Have you ever even talked to a woman?
Lmao

Women are fine, it depends what kind you know and attract. Not all of them are sluts, I know plenty of 20 and late teen virgin girls, some that are good looking too.

Sex is inherently disgusting and is basically a bodily function. I don't want to listen to a guy talking about a log he passed during my morning commute either.

>all this talk about amoral girls
>basically all the women I dated were nice, didn't cheat, and were loyal
I think /pol/ and /r9k/ just doesn't have the practical experience lads.

Then wear headphones and keep your faggotry to yourself.

>Men and women aren't different

Lmao you are wimmin I hear you roar

Looking away if you see something disgusting happening is not a solution.

You sound like the typical numale redditor cuck.

Yes, a minority of guys have mad game and get laid a lot which they can coast on for most of their youth

And some guys know how to fake game long enough to ensnare women in a relationship built on manipulation and lies. These are the assholes making it more difficult for everyone else.

But if you need to bitch on Veeky Forums about how difficult it is to get laid and how women are whores for sleeping with everyone but you, you're not either of them and you have to follow the same rules that all the other normies have to follow. Otherwise, you'll just remain a bitter, unkissed sperg for the rest of your life