We are here to become rich, at least relatively. Some of you may not want to stop until you have at least $10,000,000+ and some of you might be okay with ~$250,000 in the bank and a paid off house with a jap shitbox.
Lets do it the right way via research, using our brain power, and getting in on the ground floor like all smart money does.
Look at these ICO ROIs. If you bought Stratis, not even one year ago, you'd have over 400x your money RIGHT now.
Why did Stratis increase by so much in so little time? Why did any of these give such great returns? I may employ a shotgun approach and put $2,000 in several ICOs I see with potential and hold for 1-3 years. Can you spot what makes an ICO good or bad? Basic Attention Token and Bancor seem good, as well as maybe Mysterium and Cofound.it.
The typical criteria so far is something like >team is reputable, has past successes >idea is unique, has potential, and they have explained how they will accomplish it in their whitepaper realistically
Golem, ANTshares, WAVES, Lisk, and Swarm City all have extremely good returns and most have barely been out for one year. Why? If you put $10,000 into any of these, you'd have hundreds of thousands right now, over $4,000,000 if you put it in Stratis. FOUR MILLION USD IN LESS THAN ONE YEAR OF PUTTING $10,000 IN STRATIS.
We want to make a lot of money out of a little, and I think this is the only way to truly do it before the normalfags catch on. We are here on the ground fucking floor of EVERYTHING. For all we know Bancor will be gigantic, or maybe BAT, or maybe they'll be shit down the toilet and it will be something I haven't seen yet.
What do you think? What are your thoughts on this? This shit happens. It's not a masturbatory Veeky Forums fantasy post. There are guys who put in $5,000 in the ICOs of ETH, or Stratis, or Ripple, and have lots of money RIGHT now. This happens and we can be in on it if we just find the gold in this mound of shitty scams. We didn't miss out on fucking anything. We can jump in right now to something new.
Isaiah Ross
How do I buy ICO's?
Interested in BAT
Zachary Powell
I'm going balls deep into BAT, hopefully I don't get my dick bit off. you'll need to send ETH to the address they give when ICO starts. You'll have a very small time window so you better be refreshing like crazy.
Matthew Scott
What site do I go for all that stuff
Liam Walker
Is there a minimum buy in?
Dominic Hughes
And them they give you coins to put in a wallet that may not exist yet?
Robert Wood
Typically you go to the projects website and they will have the outline of how they will handle it.
You just send the money to an address they post and the coin gets deposited back into your wallet. This shit isn't hard. It's easier than trading. We just need to be smart with our capital and choose the right ICOs. Most of the are total scams. There are a few that we will be glad to have found and invested in though. We need to find them.
These are what I have found that did not seem like 100% scams. Civic is debatable, but I have used Gyft before, not that it means much.
you google the project and not ask to be spoonfed. holy shit fuck off.
Gavin Murphy
>You just send the money to an address they post and the coin gets deposited back into your wallet So I need an ETH wallet?
Dominic Smith
Really wish I had gotten in on ANT at the ICO and yeah, Bancor sounds promising too. What's mysterium about?
Noah James
Bancor seems extremely promising >unique (potentially revolutionizing) idea >good professional dev team
Andrew Edwards
>Decentralized VPN powered by Blockchain >Open Sourced Network allowing anyone to rent their unused Network traffic, while providing a secure connection for those in need.
ICO starts in less than 2 days so if I'm jumping in I'll have to go to a BTC ATM tomorrow at this rate with how shitty the sites are being right now.
Lucas Parker
basicattentiontoken.org/ No minimum buyin. Yes, you need a PRIVATE ETH wallet, if you send from an exchange you're going to get fucked.
sponsored by the jerusalem post, i'll take the risk
Aaron Green
Bancor seems like one of the best bets. I think BAT is cool and not a lot of people think it will work so I think that would be my wild card choice from the potential of it.
Colton Williams
Finally a serious post. I also think ICO's are the only way to go. I've gotten into MobileGo, Mona.co and NVO.io so far and I think I'm gonna get burned on Mona.co but we'll see. I'm pretty confident with MobileGo.
The best site for ICO's I've found is icoalert.com/ they don't give any comments on ICO's but it's neatly listed in chronological order so you can catch the next upcoming on release day.
I think BAT should do ok, I'll probably throw $50 worth at it just in case. Will be trying to get into cofound.it too.
I'll be looking more closely at bancor after seeing your positive remarks.
Liam Bailey
I forgot to mention Aeternity. What do you guys think of this one? aeternity.com/
Jeremiah Anderson
where did you take that screenshot?
Austin Rogers
thinking about dumping a few k into BAT
am i retarded?
Jordan Moore
>Bancor seems extremely promising I agree and they spend a lot of time in Israel which means it's money. But, their ico details are non existing and it's supposed to be on May 30th. Probably will get pushed off again.
Lincoln Martinez
I'm planning to put $12k into it.
Camden Gutierrez
>finally a serious post >mona.co >BAHAHAHAHHAA u got scammed, retard
Kayden Martin
>ICO starts in less than 2 days True money sells our faster. 2 days is 47. 5 hours too long if product legit.
Alexander Diaz
As we are speaking of ICOs, ZrCoin was posted some times here on Veeky Forums, could be a shill of course and other sources are more differentiated about it, but I kinda like the idea of an actual value / product / factory standing behind a coin. But that also makes it a "normal" stock which just wants to save on stock exchange fees by using cryptocoin. I also don't really get why they needed to create a completely new coin for that. I guess in order to keep price changes separated from influences on other possible carrier cryptocoins. So if we are in a serious thread, what do other think about it?
Julian Hill
I feel that BAT is an idea set to fail.
1) You have to get websites as well as users on board for the system to work.
2) Websites aren't going to split their ad revenue with its users. They have no reason to. Whole thing reminds me of paid-to-surf programs from 10 years ago.
Brandon Rodriguez
Wosh I had that much to throw in. I'm down to 56 ETH total and thinking of going in 25% in Bancor and 25% in BAT. I need to eat. Bancor needs to release their fucking ico plan ASAP if still shooting for May 30th. I'm a poor fag and only hope I get in on these 2. Icos seem to go quickly and hope I don't fuck up trying to get in. God speed ico anons.
Luke Peterson
I think I'm clinically retarded. So... you send these devs ETH in exchange for which you get tokens which you are to store where exactly? These tokens will eventually be able to be exchanged for the real thing when it's released?
Luis Morgan
The idea is that it will be so much more accurate that it will save time and money, and jewgle won't get their huge cut, so the publisher will still pocket significantly more if they used BAT.
Getting EVERYONE on board and Google not fucking shit up are the only problems.
Dylan Rodriguez
I'm thinking of putting some money into both BAT and Bancor. Which do you guys think has the most promise and why? Bancor seems more esoteric and like fractional reserve banking for crypto (typical of jews). I'm leaning toward 66/33 favouring BAT but I'd like to hear other's opinions
Benjamin Baker
>lisk I put money on there but it's not looking good lad, is the growth already over?
Also bought APX tokens the other day, but people in the telegram group is already talking about pumping and dumping. Tbh the craze for short term gains will kill this whole market, real growth can only happen if more and more people believe in the coin and anyway APX is more of a share than a coin, you are investing in a company why the fuck would you want to PnD that??
It was doing fine until these retards came along.
Oliver Jones
So what are your guys opinion on espers? It's very cheap currently and I've heard nothing but good things on here and I even read their project page which seems promising.
However I'm still learning how to properly evaluate coins and I would like the opinion of more insightful people than me
Hunter Walker
Can someone please explain where the actual value of these tokens will come from? Why do they or why will they increasein price? In case of BAT for example, is a BAT token the very thing you would need in the future to be able to advertise on the network, so the idea is that advertisers would pay increasing amounts for that? I'm struggling to understand this. In case of Tokencard it's quite clear for example that usage and adoption will increase the price. But for BAT or Bancor?
Jonathan Baker
I'm putting 50% into Bancor and 50% into BAT. I'm going big or going broke.
Aeternity already has a huge following and the ICO seem like a good bet
Mason Adams
there's so much fucking money being put into ICOs and shitcoins these days. even the shittiest ones
Christopher Smith
>aeternity.com this seems pretty cool but i have to read the whitepaper for sure market caps. more popularity = more money in the system = value of technology increases naturally = early investors made money taking a risk
Jack Baker
>market caps. more popularity = more money in the system = value of technology increases naturally = early investors made money taking a risk
The problem is it reeks of ponzi. If you invested in Apple back in the 80s you became a millionaire because Apple sold a fuckton of macs, not because a lot of people got interested in Apple shares.
Charles Lee
Pls give link for BAT i had hard time finding it on bitcoin forum.
Daniel Cooper
Mysterium sounds like a really good concept. Do you think it will take off?
John Gomez
Read the thread for your spoonfeeding babby.
Owen Collins
Might do the same. Fuck it, house money left only anyways so big gains or bust. What's up with the Bancor ico. I have revived 0 details to date on it although I'm signed up for every fuxking thing they are on.
Jaxon Taylor
what site is this screenshot from
Christopher Hall
Bat will fail, don't listen to this shill
Brody Bailey
It sounds like one of the ones that has much more immediate uses, especially for the type of people who are already actually in the crypto space.
Hudson Parker
Tesla has an enormous market cap even though they aren't earning money if you subtract the government hand outs
Alexander Torres
Please elaborate
Ryan Martinez
myetherwallet.com can hold a bunch of tokens. Sign in to wallet, click tokens. Pretty much every token running on the ethereum blockchain my dude. pic related feel free to donate lol, the real poorfag here
Jayden Ward
They're probably pushing it back because they still haven't released details on their website. bancor.network/
Jayden Lopez
the supply of these coins and tokens are very low for "currency" so the price just has to increase if a significant amount of people use it. it seems good, a real product that people would use. everyone uses VPNs.
not shilling. it has potential and I will probably put a few thousand in. bancor was pushed back because they brought people onto the team i think and need some extra time or something.
Luke Hill
shitcoin 100% pump and dump. Stay away if you're a legit newbie and fuck off if you're one of them.
Logan Turner
splitting about 10k between BAT and mystereum this week. will try not to sell any til i see a 10x at least.
Thomas Johnson
>the supply of these coins and tokens are very low for "currency" so the price just has to increase if a significant amount of people use it.
Yes but (I may be missing something here) what makes it worth on the long term? I mean, my APX tokens for example. I doubt they will be worth much in a year if they can't be used as a coin? Unless the company buys them from me and gives me BTC for the tokens (in exchange for my early support) I'm basically doomed to lose that money on the long run unless I scam someone.
Nathan Smith
Nice shill
Juan Russell
Lykke is doing something similar to that. Open-source, NO spreads(yes none), whacky investment options like music contracts and forex trading. The coin is also a 'stock' in the company and the guy behind it is a swede co-founder of oanda(big retail forex firm in NY). The problems I see with it is that their business model seems weak as fuck as it relies on them getting people to trade forex on their mobile app, I don't see that happening so the Lykke coin sounds like a bad investment right now, especially since they aren't even legal in the U.S. I tried to to use their app and it denied me, but it's definitely something to watch. I have the same misgivings but my major sense is that the smart money will be in it for awhile at least, even if it's not a long term investment I figure even just sticking out until it gets listed on an exchange would be enough of a profit to through some money at them. There's going to be more on their website about the specifics but 'smart contracts' require a 'gas limit'. It's how much eth you can burn to execute the code when you send to the ICO address. There's probably going to be a 25000 limit which is max, so you'll get charged a bit bigger fee of whatever you put in. If you skip this step your eth will just be returned, so remember that. I doubt google will get on board because they already have the ad market locked down. Even if the Brave browser sees adoption I can only think of it as one of those things people do for extra cash like those bitcoin faucet sites. >craze for short term gains It's a facet of the ease of use and lack of regulation. Personally, I see this as a good thing since even if a coin tanks or gets manipulated down you can just set a mild profit sell order and just leave it open waiting for a passing whale to pump and get you out of a shit investment. I'm doing this for Vox and I missed out twice already because I set the sell order too high.
Grayson Ortiz
Its going to be a way for people to tip sites they like or get paid for watching ads. The main reason I'm so interested in BAT is that there are a number of sites that I frequent which are consistently kicked off of all payment processor and ad networks due to having the wrong politics. Once Eich fully implements BAT into Brave as he is planning this will give an easy workaround for such people.
Jonathan Garcia
Monacoin? Sell it while you can man,it's a scam. Look into bitcointalk forums. You can thank this poorfag by throwing me a bone : 3PgrdyRB8im78rvLxRJdXjz5MZcMAjsnxB
Juan Russell
>there are a number of sites that I frequent which are consistently kicked off of all payment processor and ad networks due to having the wrong politics. What, do you mean google doesn't take money from white nationalists/talk radio or something? Never heard of that.
Jordan Sullivan
>I doubt Google will get on board Its not about them getting on board its about them not managing to successfully sue Eich and stop this.
Ian Gomez
I don't really want to shill for BAT and I could easily be wrong, but doesn't the hype around it make it extremely likely that ICO investors won't do worse than breaking even?
The easiest comparison I can make is the aragon ICO, which sold extremely quickly (much like BAT probably will) and so far hasn't dropped below a market cap equal to the total investment.
Nicholas Ward
I only got like $50 worth so fuckit. I'll leave it there until it either dies or they decide not to be a scam.
Liam Gutierrez
It has reputable people and it is controversial/has a lot of potential so unless someone fucks up, I can't imagine doing worse than breaking even
Luis Evans
cryptocurrency =/= shares, unless it's specificly made for that purpose. Like in case of mysterium network. You need to buy those coins to use their VPN system. The more people use the service - the more valuable these tokens are.
Ryan Smith
Correct. Paypal and Patreon also kick people off if they consider them guilty of "hate speech" even if it doesn't occur in any of their Patreon projects. Crowdfunding can be done with bitcoin of course but there's still a lot who just won't go the extra mile to get involved in crypto just to help crowdfund, BAT integration with Brave will make this painless.
I also consider it highly unlikely that Eich would do anything to interfere to kick them off because of his own experience with being shut out due to his political opinions.
Evan Nelson
that's a really good point. desu i haven't seen much hype. most places i read have people saying it won't work, fwiw.
Mason Robinson
I tried to look up any of the societies listed in the ZrCoin whitepaper about a month ago, and found no results. Closest hit gave me an Armenian rug company... ZrCoin are supposedly russians so it could be the language barrier at play, but for the time being it's hard to tell if this is something serious or just hot air.
would be better to develop our own coin. any coin idea that sounds even remotely non-shitty would probably fill an ICO of $millions. everyone's throwing money at ICOs
Lucas Bailey
Call it Rarecoin. And put a Pepe on its logo. We will use it to trade memes.
Gavin Murphy
ICO's is how you make the bank. Gamble money in a coin you think will take off before its peak, you'll either lose it get an extremely high ROI.
The problem with creating a coin is that we'd either have to have a meme status behind where people mass buy it/mine it for shits and giggles (see: Dogecoin) or actually have a legit dev team with great tech/ideas behind it who won't abandon the project or pre-mine and run off.
Anthony Richardson
you mean pepecash?
Jayden Hughes
You're welcome to join my project, I need people in AR, Crypto of course,GIS and GPS, database pros and a few others fields. I've got the hardware device manufacturing almost covered but pretty much everything else needs to be built out. github.com/planetareum/Planetareum/projects/1
Levi Diaz
check out EncryptoTel, Mysterium, REX, NVO, BANCOR, TENX, oX protocol, STATUS, CodeTract and Agrello
if a had to pick a few of those i would choose >BANCOR/NVO b/c it would add liquidity to the cryptocurrency
the other do not address a present necessity, Status and EncryptoTel are good ideas but i dont see them coming to fruition until the use of cryptos is a common ocurrence in our daily lives, same with REX, Civic, Agrello, bloockpool and voise
the oX protocol looks good on paper but the lightning cross chain network is now in development,
Mysterium could be profitable, but the advantages of running a public exit node are not clear at the moment,
Christopher Barnes
blockchains for micropayments was kind of an afterthought until I found this board and realised that ICO's are raising more money than anything else on the planet right now.
Dominic Wright
and it's literally the future of currency
Joseph Wilson
>ICO's is how you make the bank. Gamble money in a coin you think will take off before its peak, you'll either lose it get an extremely high ROI.
the ROI is not really extremely high anymore. for example, look at the BAT ICO. if filled, they're already valued at $24 million
Landon Cooper
But if they succeed in this market, advertising is probably THE most lucrative market on the internet isn't it?
Nolan Bell
As was ANT, ANT's already more than doubled its value opposed to bitcoin and is on a trend to go even higher.
Christian Moore
A $24 mil market cap is not really big for a promising crypto
Jason Sanders
look at the top assets today. 24M is nothing...
Josiah Foster
Best ICO's to get in currently?
Thinking about BAT and Bancor
Liam Brown
So how do these token sales go? You send ETH when the sale begins and put a myetherwallet adress to receive the coins? Do they generally accept less than 1 ETH? Because I have 0,5 in total.
Carson Wood
Interested in BATs & Mysterium
I have some BTC, how do I actually get in at the ground level, like, how do I buy 'tokens' for BATs at sale time, same for Mysterium
Blake Rogers
That should be fine and if you've only got a small amount then an ICO is probably your best bet. You read the instructions on their ICO page carefully and do what they tell you.
Logan Jenkins
one more of you fags ask these retarded questions without using fucking google holy fucking shit you people are helpless newfags
Easton Carter
where did you get that list?
James Ward
There's seems to be a few people here who don't bother to read the actual ICO page. Go read that first then come back and ask questions
Dominic Morris
Step up the cryptotradimg game, add me on Skype: CryptoAnna
Joshua Ramirez
IOC is releasing DIONs in June, prepare for the moon mission.
Camden Harris
100% return is not much considering the risk. although, i suppose as long as everyone keeps throwing their money into shitcoins at the current rate, the risk might not be that great
that github link didn't offer much info. what's the project?
Hunter Walker
just google "new ICOs" famalam
Benjamin Harris
> have about 50k to throw around
I have no idea how to buy coins. How can I start?
Jordan Rivera
fuck off spamming faggot by using google
Xavier Williams
Spoonfeed me faggot. I am too lazy to read how to buy each individual coin
Eli Sanchez
dude save yourself the trouble and just wait for the next big correction in the stock market and then go long s&p500 futures contracts and hold them until you've either lost your money or the contracts expire and you've got a decent profit
Angel Richardson
1. Register on coinbase or kraken 2. Buy btc or eth 3. Transfer to Poloniex or Bittrex 4. Buy shitcoins 5. Transfer shitcoins to a offline wallet 6. ?????????? 7. Profit
Leo Perry
Then read the thread. Basically you have a short timeframe to throw ETH into the ICO up to a certain max amount of coin you can get, and if you provide a wallet address they send the coins to you. If you don't they just send you back your ETH.
You usually buy on the cryptocoin's website itself.
Josiah Jenkins
>"new ICOs"
I'm not getting the same list.
I want to see how many ICO:s failed to turn a quick buck.
Kindly share URL.
Leo Peterson
Anyone knows when BAT coins will be released to ICO buyers ? Like the next day, month or what
Jayden Rivera
As far as I read they will be released and tradeable immediately, which is a new concept I guess. I will go in for BAT and Bancor also