Why are cities more liberal then rural areas /humanities ?

Why are cities more liberal then rural areas /humanities ?

And why are rural areas more conservative then cities?

Education.

inb4 "liberals are more tolerant of different cultures"

Large cities require a lot of infrastructure to operate and a high degree of tolerance to function. Therefore the engender a group mindset more so than rural areas that do not require nearly as much of those things.

Suburbs are in the middle

Large cities are more diverse, so they get used to coming in contact with different cultures and people.

Because the failures of society stare you right in the face when you live in cities. Whereas the failures of rural communities tend to migrate to the cities or at the very least out of said communities.

Rural areas are less liberal than urban areas because rural areas are, almost as a rule, more insular and isolated from the world than cities. It's very easy to grow up holding a conservative viewpoint when the majority of the information you get comes from the mainstream media and your family.

>be dumb
>be poor
>live in the middle of nowhere
>don't want your money to go to anyone else via taxes

>le ebin liberal man setting the record straight

every fucking time

>It's very easy to grow up holding a conservative viewpoint when the majority of the information you get comes from the mainstream media and your family.
But the mainstream media is liberal as fuck.

Is fox somehow not mainstream enough?

Not really. Its just pro government and the voice of the elites.

That depends on what you look at. FOX News is very popular in the Rust Belt and Corn Belt, and they can still read newspapers or look at stories on social media.

Easy OP, rural areas are more religious. So the people who are liberal in temperament simply leave.

Its a
>smug city shit thinks rural people are less educated
Episode

Not when its outnumbered by CNN, MSNBC, PBS, and so on, and so forth.

Which they are.

By what measure?

Fox is definitely part of the mainstream media.

In America? Cities are crammed with shitskins, rural areas are white. That simple.

Its has nothing to do with isolation, its about social conditioning. cities need a lot more goverment management than rural areas so people in cities trust government more

How many universities are there in the corn fields of Nebraska?

Proximity to colleges, number of community resources, general quality of public schools, and demographics? Living out in the sticks can be as bad as or worse than living in the asshole of the inner city.

>rural = poor
>urban = rich
Not necessarily true if we're talking about the US.

I live in a town of ~30k people and we have a great university that has dentistry and other high education courses

Cities grew aroung markets and ports - trade centers, spots where distant goods, workers and ideas would come and go. So urbanites tend to be more cosmopolitan.

Cities also have great populations. Possible common identities in cities tend to be looser than those in tigh-knit communities like villages, so city people aren't so strict with their traditions.

Cities tend need more complex organizing than small population centers, and that means more clerks, and that means more education, and that means more critical thinking, and that means more open-mindedness.

Overall, urbanites tend to be more tolerant of difference because the existence of of urban centers necessitates it - otherwise urbanites wouldn't work together. Smaller, tight-knit communities don't need to be so tolerant of difference because there is a greater degree of "sameness" within.

30k not rural.

You should consider yourself lucky to live in a rural town with a lot of money put into it. Places like Rockford and Cairo are veritable pits of idiocy, despite living right next to wealthy gated communities.

Urban people are dumb and live in a bubble thinking everyone outside of big city limits is a tractor driving redneck bumpkin. I literally saw my cousin from LA get shocked upon discovering my town in rural Michigan has ethnic (middle eastern, Indian etc) restaurants.

cities that size tend to be rather close to rural areas and suburbs. Often people will move between urban and rural spaces in that type of place

Hold on, are we talking about the USA specifically? I actually put effort into a far reaching historical analysis: .

I have in laws in White Cloud, MI, who all seem to think they're Southern Rebels. They live the life that liberals tend to look down upon. No education, shit factory job, poor, Trump voters.

I once played cards against humanities with them, none of them knew who Genghis Khan was and they pronounced it Genesis Can. My wife once told me that they didn't even really teach about Hitler in her school.

No
I as the OP am a proud Ausfailian

Liberals campaign for more welfare and civil services and urbanites are in a better position to recieve them.

Unemployed people flock to cities, and they want more welfare.
Middle class urbanites want better schools and police.
Urban dwellers in general want better infrastructure: streets/sanitation/public transit.
Cities are also generally melting pots, which encourages open, secular values.

Conservatives campaign for reduced taxation and fiscal spending and are pro-business.
Many rural dwellers are self employed, work for small business, or work for large resource extraction or manufacturing companies that are heavily impacted by regulations.
Rural communities are more isolated which reinforces tradition and religion.

I find all of that pretty hard to believe.

Not one bit is a lie. Don't get me wrong, they are honest and hard working.... but stupid, and bad with what money they have.

Actually rural people tend to live in a bubble too. The ones I've met don't eveb know basic geography. These are grown adults mind you. They think anything urban is hollywood. The most educated people ive found are those with passports who actually travel outside the country.

This is just the USA experience. In my country, the backwoods are nationalistic and communistic - eurosceptics, socially conservative, want more government in the market. The cities are for older socdems that disagree on which centrist party to vote for, and for younger socdems that want a lot more social liberalism, but also a lot more market regulation (but they don't have the same focus that the rural folk does).

Actually unless we're counting shit like Wyoming or Nebraska, rural people never live really far from urban areas. In Ohio for example even the most isolated hick shithole isn't more than hour and a half away from Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland or Pittsburgh.

My state is mostly rural and the high school graduation rate was 63% last I checked. Honestly people don't realize how dumb these people are.

Does completing highschool or university make you smarter?

Or is getting a job and supporting yourself a wise choice as well?

Your state is a black state. Let me guess Louisiana?

Maybe life in the city is more fast-paced so one doesn't have time to get comfortable and conservative.

t. Cletus

>Does completing highschool or university make you smarter?

How are you even asking this?

>Does completing highschool or university make you smarter?
Seems like it raises your IQ. And having a high IQ increases your odds of completing highschool and university. High IQ correlates with higher income up to a point - the link sort of breaks down after a level of IQ/income, so being smart gets you more than being stupid, but being a genius isn't really that great for your purse compared to being just kinda smart. Higher education can help you realize more of your potential is my point, but you are right that it's not for everyone, I'd say it depends on what sort of ambitions you have.

What if urban people are exposed to more pathogens than rural people, which cause them to have delirious views?

What if rural people are exposed to more fungal spores than urban people, which cause them to have delirious views?

Well an arts degree in photography doesn't really beat a trade skill like machinist or builder

Highschool grad vs a dropout though?

>Well an arts degree in photography doesn't really beat a trade skill like machinist or builder
For what purpose?

>urban "people"

UNL,UNO,UNK etc

Except Lincoln and Omaha aren't in the corn fields, and both have respectable populations, especially for fucking Nebraska. Lincoln is one of the most educated cities in the country, Kearny, well...

Because civilization is fundamentally dualistic. Cities can't exist in isolation. They need to draw people and resources from surrounding rural areas. A "city" is better understood as a wider area that has both an urban and a rural competent. These two components need to coexist in a symbiotic relationship and both require their own identity and ideology to function.

Pic related. Capricorn as we know it was originally the god of the first city, Eridu. Eridu was originally made up of fishermen who worked the docks downtown and goatherds who worked the fields outside of town. To resolve the tension between them they just combined their two lifeways into a fish-goat god.

The only people who voted for Gilgamesh were rural and suburban retards.

City people all voted for Inanna.

I knew smart people who left early and dumb people who stayed

Gilgamesh is a boss
Inanna is a slut

And the vast majority?

City people are faced with the issue of Dunbar's number

When you have zero sense of belonging or community you tend to assume nobody else does

people are close. They have to deal with each other. Also there could be something in the water supply :^)

wealth is in cities so naturally it attracts jews
jews use their forked silver tongues and telepathic abilities to make the goy serve their interests

Because cities, given a certain high number of population, tend to be more cosmopolitan, and therefor more trivial to things like religion or tradition. Like said. This is why the capital people hate the provincials so much.

Given even bigger proportions, like a metropolis the size of NY or London or Moscow, and then people become skeptical about the nation, the family, sexuality, and so on.

And there will always be this huge discrepancy between the urban and rural folk, because the first have no clue about what's going on in the rest of the country, while the second have a very narrow and singular view on their own life, their family and their nation.

>Capricorn as we know it was originally the god of the first city, Eridu. Eridu was originally made up of fishermen who worked the docks downtown and goatherds who worked the fields outside of town. To resolve the tension between them they just combined their two lifeways into a fish-goat god.

>The only people who voted for Gilgamesh were rural and suburban retards.

>City people all voted for Inanna.

Any source for this? Genuinely curious

is /pol/ comprised of rural Americans?

>because the first have no clue about what's going on in the rest of the country
I don't know about the US, but here the main city only has 30% of people that were born there. The rest, like me, chose to go there, one of the reason being that they know exactly what's going on in the rest of the country and wanted no part of it

inner-city migrations are bad for the main cities as well, because then the newcomers to the city don't know of it's issues and lifestyle in general, then neglect it altogether when it comes to voting for the city council.


t. From capital with over 50% surrounding rural newcomers.

Well bend over and take it big guy, I aint going back there

lmao every shithole here has a medical university here

Why the fuck not?


Why don't you rural folk surrounding the city just fuck off back to your place of origin and make it better for yourselves, instead of coming to the capital city and disrupting the delicate cultural, social and political urban ecosystem we manage to balance out every few years in elections?

Why go to the place with wealth, instead of bringing the wealth to you?

t. Nigger cocksucking faggot

this.
In my country, the stereotypes are:
>young, hip, clueless, pro-EU, sheltered city assholes, voting liberal(though in practice you also have business owners, college professors, and other folks with legitimate reasons);
>rural hicks and pensioners that vote soc-dem, because they live off welfare checks and have sympathies for commies(though you also have genuine socialists, pro-not EU)

fox is a conservative radio show tier

CNN and MSNBC are the big players

That's a pretty stupid opinion.
I totally see thousands of people with specialised degrees going back to bumfuck nowhere jobless instead of where the companies actually are. Well sorry, there's no position of data analyst waiting for me in my 500 souls village. And I fail to see how people coming from elsewhere in the country can disturb a "cultural ecosystem", if that even means anything.

>Why go to the place with wealth, instead of bringing the wealth to you?
To "you"? What's "you"? If you think that in your life you must stay where you where born, perhaps you're actually very close to the rural cletuses after all.

>liberal arts degrees in black feminist studies of zimbabwe in the 11th century is now considered higher education

t. Cletus

>multiculturalism
>tolerance
kek. growing up in a dense as fuck city, i can tell you that is not it.

city dwellers rely a lot more on government so that the city functions. more roads, police, infrastructure, etc. rural people have to be more self reliant because they live in small communities or sparsely populated areas. they don't have to rely on government as much.

generally speaking, each group would advocate for mores or less taxes in their own interest.

People with degrees are totally different to low skilled/lower class people who migrate to the city in search for work, and then become it's new underclass/bydlo.

> And I fail to see how people coming from elsewhere in the country can disturb a "cultural ecosystem", if that even means anything.

Because lower class people simply do not have the intelligence necessary to participate in urban politics. They have no idea of the dynamics between, for example, green space and pollution, or investing for development in historic quarters of the city. Or the identity of the city at all.

They just go to work, come home in their tiny flat, the price of which became expensive thanks to their mass migation , which in turn created demand on the local market, need some form of urban entertainment like parks or pubs, and the rest of the urban landscape is ruined completely. They demand new infrastructure and new everything, but when it comes to participating in the elections, only the remaining pureblood urbanites actually care enough to vote, the example of which is the capital i live in.

This new underclass of rural newcomers is simply dragging the quality of the city and it's culture down.

By all means, if you come to the capital because that's where the companies are, do it, make a lot of money, but take a train and fuck off back home after your work day's done.

>If you think that in your life you must stay where you where born, perhaps you're actually very close to the rural cletuses after all.

Perhaps you never thought about the fact that it's much more rental to commute to the big city to make a decent amount of money for your the standart of your dwelling, and then spend in there, locally, because prices and everything is infinitely cheaper outside the main cities. This in turn creates investment, jobs, creates infrastructure, and everyone is happy, because everyone is containing their wealth in their place of origin.

>t. cletus with a useful STEM degree
ftfy fag

Because the high trust societies that conservatism needs to function get dissolved in densley populated areas

No, /pol/ is composed of naruto fanboys and "Obama turned my frog gay" Alex Jones worshippers.

Well I'm sorry you feel the need to vent your frustration, but I don't care. It's my home now, and I'm not going to take a 12 hours commute to live at my parents house just to please you.
>and everyone is happy
I'm quite happy that way.

>the price of which became expensive thanks to their mass migation
Actually it's mostly zoning laws that skyrocket the price, not migration. Especially in the case of SF and NYC.

Source: I live in Phoenix which has one of the largest immigration rates in the nation and everything is cheap as shit here because the zoning laws are super lax.

>I don't care


Well no shit. It's because of civically inactive people like you that capitals with rich histories are being destroyed and their histories being bulldozed in favor of shitty commercial glass towers for your "work".

>I'm quite happy that way.

You mean working, minding your own business without being part of the community you live in? Fine, if that's how you like it.

Just don't complain of how "degeneracy" is taking over your city and SJW and other minorities start marching and demanding rights.

The cosmopolitanisation of a city begins when new people from rural areas mass migrate to it, then they "don't care" about the community, raise their future children in the same indifferent manner to the city's culture, then all sorts of minorities and SJW start sprouting because they want to replace the local culture with a cosmopolitan, everchanging, globalist culture..

The reason to degeneracy being intrinsically linked with large cosmopolitan cities isn't global capitalism, but fags such as yourself that don't care.

>civically inactive people like you
Who are you talking to? You're the one that said shit about lowerclasses not voting. Did I said I wasn't on the electoral lists? Did you read it somewhere?
Strawmaning retards I swear

Not him but last I checked in the US nearly 90% of dropouts are inside the job market.

Also you don't need a highschool diploma to enter college, so you can both be a dropout and have a degree at the same time.

There's also this thing called the internet which is like, a BIG ass library, full of info, you wouldn't believe it.

Nigger had trips, your point is irrelevant. Also nice strawmen everywhere.

>I don't know about the US, but here the main city only has 30% of people that were born there. The rest, like me, chose to go there, one of the reason being that they know exactly what's going on in the rest of the country and wanted no part of it
Where you from?

Latvia

Not him but I live in Istanbul.
The countryside is full of religious loonies.

>Muh not all rural immigrants to the cities are the same

First it's you, then it's a horde of others just like you, but lower class. You don't need to tell me these things. My parents are rural people and i know how half your extended family comes to the city once a couple of them make it.

t. Nativist

He is the symptom of an ever increasing problem. The problem of politicians who centralize economic activity in the capital and bring all these sub-humans from the rest of the country in the capital.

What's happening in rural areas that people are fleeing to your main city to escape? Infiltration by Russian wildlife?

Are you speaking from a position where a nation or state only has on large city? I'm from the US, we have a good couple dozen.

What is even the definition of cities, tho?

Back in my country I used to live in an area of half a million people and it was still mostly rural, most of the "city" with no roads or proper infraestructure.

And most of the welfare went to the smaller areas.

Most of the population was liberal and nationalistic because they lived off welfare and the goverment preached some messed up version of Maoism. The political spectrum isn't doesn't just steer to one side or the other.

I became right-wing (likely) due to my hatred of that goverment and because I couldn't stand the average rural folk who far from being hard working was a lazy ignorant piece of shit. And then in the capital of the country it was more standard liberal multicultural cuck-fest like in the US. I hate those cunts too, they disgusts me.

>one large city

The US is EXTREMELY decentralized, we aren't France or Britain and people still migrate to cities like mad. Also the point you made between mass migration and high prices is nonsensical. That only happens if the housing supply is extremely low.

>That only happens if the housing supply is extremely low.
I don't know about other states but here in California our large cities are butting up against very expensive terrain, raising the price of housing from all the fucking Oakies.

there are more Republican voters in NYC than there are in the entirety of the state of Wyoming

huh really make you think

>he thinks Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS etc. are liberal

>one personal anecdote about your dumbass relative as the basis for a very broad generalization about literally billions of people
Wow... maybe all rural people are truly stupid tractor-driving redneck bumpkins.

In my city, it's only the people you deride as "SJWs" that give a fuck about gentrification and preserve local culture by autistically clinging to old, established businesses, doing social projects, fundraisers, activism for affordable rent and creating trusts for restauration projects.

The average working adult does none of these things. I bet you don't either.

See California has shit zoning laws, cities aren't really allowed to expand, which greatly reduces housing supply which combined with the high demand causes the prices to skyrocket.