Were there giants in ancient times?

Yes, they served as mercenaries in the mighty armies of the African Kangdoms before whitey took over and removed their evidence.

>Were there giants in ancient times?
caligorante was real

There's also no evidence of that kind of a cataclysmic worldwide flood.

>discovered by Georges Vacher de Lapouge
>According to de Lapouge etc.
>No modern peer-reviewed study has been published about the alleged giant bone fragments.
I stopped reading there.

No, he wasn't.

>Astolfo uses his magic horn to capture the giant Caligorante, and then parades the giant from town to town

Seems legit

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People in ancent times were manlets, so people with gigantism seemed like giants rather than tall people. Add is some heredetary gigantism, and you have a race of giants.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4113151/

Almost certainly. It is assumed that some tribes in the middle east were those descended from the Nephilim.

Well we know for a fact there was once a race of small men living in the woods((Homo floresiensis) that could be the origen of the legendary creatures known as gnomes, chaneques etc. So there could be a real hominid behind the legendary giants.

The legends relating to the Ebu Gogo were traditionally attributed to monkeys, according to the journal Nature.[3]

The Nage people believe that the Ebu Gogo were alive at the time of the arrival of Portuguese trading ships in the 17th century, and some hold that they survived as recently as the 20th century, but are now no longer seen. The Ebu Gogo are believed to have been hunted to extinction by the human inhabitants of Flores. They believe that the extermination, which culminated around seven generations ago, was undertaken because the Ebu Gogo stole food from human dwellings

The ancient Greeks used to believe that the ancients of the Bronze Age were giants, or at least were closer to the gods and so able to solicit the aid of giants and cyclopes. They figured that since the walls of certain old cities were so large, logically they must have been built by larger man.

An article in New Scientist (Vol. 186, No. 2504) gives the following account of folklore on Flores surrounding the Ebu Gogo: The Nage people of central Flores tell how, in the 18th century, villagers disposed of the Ebu Gogo by tricking them into accepting gifts of palm fiber to make clothes. When the Ebu Gogo took the fiber into their cave, the villagers threw in a firebrand to set it alight. The story goes that all the occupants were killed

If only they survived into Darwin's age.

If they were real that is.

>implying Giants aren't evidence of God

>this thread

>doubting the veracity of Ariosto's account of the events

You fucking plebs.

So manlet hate thread?
Wait this isn't

The Bible is a claim. It isn't evidence.

>Dinosaurs and fucking cambrian lifeforms
you wouldn't believe how few samples we actually have.
Stop being a fool so you can tip your fedora.
>hominids
Idiot.

All evidence is itself a claim.
To deny the Bible as evidence is the equivalent of denying a scientific journal.
You simply don't seem to understand what science actually is, or how it's done.
And if you've never done it, well the Dunning-Kruger theory needs more light.
If you believe someone that society tells you is just automatically trustworthy and this person tells you everything is self evident.
You're a sheep, now go watch some Bill Nye like a good goy, don't go into a scientific field where you find out how the professor with his bone is more dangerous than the dog with his bone.

>not knowing the difference between evidence and proof

>Killing one cave's worth of H. floresiensis
>ok guys we genocided the species

wew lad

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantism

>To deny the Bible as evidence is the equivalent of denying a scientific journal.

probably the same happened to the neanderthal. humans killing them in their caves.

Used to think the same until I camped alone in the Navajo nation and had a man come out of the forest at night, sit across from me and of course I was spooked and had my 1911 ready. He spoke to me for around an hour about Navajo legends and was pretty interested in my Thor's hammer necklace and said "I remember watching him in the sky as a child" and then said he had to leave as but stated that I was lucky to be wearing that hammer. He proceeded to walk away but I saw his legs were skinny and hoofed and when he walked into the darkness I heard a yell and a quick succession of 4-legged running away from the camp. I'll never forget that experience and yeah it's fuck random being on here but something compelled me to respond to you.

>I can not think for myself
>I have not conducted science
>I have not gone drinking with scientists
>I have never read the Bible
>I have never studied history
>I un-ironically believe everything Neil DeGrasse Tyson says

There's no evidence that humans killed neanderthals. Their population was already low before they ever met homo sapians.

there is, check out Randall Carlson's work, there is a fuck ton of evidence for large scale flooding during the younger dryas

I don't know about killing them directly, but it's almost certain that homo sapiens drove them to extinction by occupying the same ecological niche and competing for the same resources.

>And he was all of three feet taller than the others
WOW AN ABNORMALLY TALL PERSON. THIS PROVES THE BIBLE IS REAL GUISE.

Probably some lanklets with giganticism and the manlet Romans though they were 10ft tall beasts or something.

What if we're the giants and we killed off all the manlets who made up stories about us?

Think about it...

It might be interesting to test certain populations, certain ethnicities, for genetic tendency towards gigantism. Has that ever been done?

Most likely. Its not known exactly what finished them off, but like things, I don't think there was one reason. If it was only to do with inhabiting the same niche, neither species should have gone extinct, but humans shouldn't have been able to increase their populations.

I think it was a combination of many factors. Neandethals had large heads and a high female mortality rate through birth. They also could not rotate their arms in an arc, meaning they couldn't throw javelins, and thus had to fight their prey in close quarters, increasing the chance of injury. They developed a lot faster than humans and so likely weren't as intelligent. There's lots of reasons.

No, but I think its never been done because its never been observed. Worldwide studies show that people who live in the West are the tallest and have been getting taller since the industrial revolution, with no correlation to race within the west. This is likely because of food consumption. Interestingly, the generation that grew up in WW2 in Britain are significantly taller than older people before and after, because they grew up on rations, which contained exactly what they needed.

I'm not just talking about general height, I'm talking about gigantism, the gland condition.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantism

>If it was only to do with inhabiting the same niche, neither species should have gone extinct
Why not? When two species occupy the same niche one of them tends to go extinct, unless it can survive doing something the other can't.

Maybe you aren't familiar with what evidence is?

Giants were considered heroes and Goliath was a warrior. Don't people with gigantism have loads of health problems?

It is historic evidence but one that should be taken with temperament to the time and reason it was written.

What are you talking about, white people are neanderthals?

Out of my way you dirty homo sapien

Generally they do, but it can take time for the problems to catch up with them, and can to some extent be worked around. The article mentions that Goliath had a shield-bearer go ahead of him, and suggests that this could be to help point him in the right direction to compensate for the lateral vision problems caused by pituitary gland disorders that can result in gigantism, as pituitary tumours often press on the octive nerve due to proximity.

David was unused to armour, so he went without, and used a stone and a sling, rather than coming up to Goliath with a sword or javelin. He would therefore be much more quick and nimble than a more conventional foe, and Goliath may not even have been able to se the stone.

There is another article I read that I can't find which interprets Goliath saying "Am I a dog, that you come at me with sticks?" at the sight of David as evidence that he had vision problems, as David wasn't carrying sticks plural.

Wasn't there a Roman emperor that was nine feet tall?

>And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three hundred ells:[69] Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood.

>Goliath's stature as described in various ancient manuscripts varies: the oldest manuscripts—the Dead Sea Scrolls text of Samuel, the 1st century historian Josephus, and the 4th century Septuagint manuscripts—all give his height as "four cubits and a span" (6 feet 9 inches or 2.06 metres) whereas the Masoretic Text gives this as "six cubits and a span" (9 feet 9 inches or 2.97 metres; Hebrew: שֵׁ֥שׁ אַמֹּ֖ות וָזָֽרֶת šêš ’ammōṯ wā-zāreṯ).[10][11]

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It is kind of strange how so many of these giants have red hair. It's a common detail in the legends, despite the fact that the different groups would not likely have been in contact sufficient to spread the stories.

Exaggerating actual events isn't anything new.
It's probably just stories about tribes or villages that were a-typically tall, and as such were labelled as monsters, or giants.

If we killed off all the manlets, how do you explain Veeky Forums?

Checkmate, atheists.

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>Veeky Forums

That claim comes from one source that cited fictional books, at least according to Wikipedia. I'm phone posting so I can't delve too deeply right now.

/k/ finds skinwalkers in the woods somewhat regularly. The unifying factor seems to be that the well armed usually survive encounters, the unarmed don't.

>/k/
It isn't called "a magical place" for no reason.

>To deny the Bible as evidence is the equivalent of denying a scientific journal.

Doesn't /k/ find all sorts of weird shit innawoods?

Yep. Whether it's abandoned US military assets, Navajo beasties, or a vintage porn cache, if it's in the woods /k/ will find it eventually.

As a real world example of this, most tribes in the Pacific Northwest have a creature called Steatl, Tsiatko, or something similar in their folklore. These stories are usually claimed by bigfoot people (and occasionally giant believers) to be evidence for them, because they're usually big and violent. But, linguistically, the words used for these creatures are related very closely to "stranger," "raider," and other words like that; several folklorists and anthropologist have similarly linked these stories to accounts of raids by whaling tribes, and groups from the interior.

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>he believes what he reads from anonymous people on the internet

Maybe it's a mistake, but when people here seem like they're honest, I try to believe them. I feel like an anonymous image board is actually the perfect place on which to tell the truth.

Veeky Forums is more reliable than the press on a lot of stuff, sadly.

Being more that 0 doesn't make it alot

> I feel like an anonymous image board is actually the perfect place on which to tell the truth.

mescaline

it's also the perfect place for people to troll and stir shit up like fake ghost stories and all that just for the attention and the debate and all the stuff that becomes centered around them when they type up some bullshit.

kinda like what's happening now.

Rock hard

Well, that's the risk, and it's always there.

You can't believe everything you read here, but I don't think you can believe nothing, either.

I'm not that guy, but I've gone innawoods regularly for the past 25 years and I've never seen a monster.

You can believe anything that can be reasonably verified.

Why anyone would believe an iota more is beyond me.

I'm gonna choose to not believe the story about a guy that saw a skin walker in the woods. Seems like a safe bet. Furthermore when you say something like "people who are armed survive and people who aren't armed dont" it just makes me wonder how the hell you knew about the people who died and whether or not they were armed if we've never found evidence and they never lived to tell the story. It also sounds like some southern gun propaganda.
>"gotta get dat 1911 or those dirty skin walkers will get ya!"

(You)

I did once see a pretty interesting story with some pretty interesting documentation on /x/, of all places. That was a strange night.

You must provide some bones, fossils, or other physical evidence if you want people to believe that dragons existed in real life. If I walked up to you and claimed that dragons existed in the past, would you take me at my word, or ask for some proof?

Andre the giant had the glandular disease/gigantism

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>It also sounds like some southern gun propaganda.
t. asspained latte sipping metrosexual
Well known mundane threats like bears and mountain lions are sufficient reason to bring a gun in the woods regardless of whether or not skinwalkers are real.

Probably just some Viking settler and a bit of exaggeration.

Yeah, actually, this works. I can believe that Goliath was Andre-The-Giant-tier.

We didn't kill them. We fucked them

It was probably both considering how often sex leads to murder even within H. sapiens.

nigger i will make you lick my geologist ass if you ever talk to me like that again

>The unifying factor seems to be that the well armed usually survive encounters, the unarmed don't.
If they didn't survive then how do we know what happened to them?

>Thor's hammer necklace
Native American spirits observe this?
Maybe I'm just too segregationist to think that a Indo-European deity would hold power out there, i suppose it's all about how there's one big spirit realm idea and only different windows into it, right?

We have actual proof that Vikings visited Canada.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland

Combine that with a trading system that spanned the continent and it's not totally unreasonable to expect a Navajo monster to be aware of the Norse after a thousand years.

i guess protection would follow it's observers

>a gun is what you use on bears

Drink a tall glass of acid my man!

That giant kinda looks like a very tall dark skin man with an afro or woolly hair basically

He also looks a lot like the guy from Pulp Fiction

What's wrong with what he said? A gun is quite an effective defense against bears.