Nazis believe that only the strongest survive

>implying most of /pol/ hasn't been disinherited by their parents

"If you win a war you started you actually lose"
-Hitler

Actually slavs only BTFOd them after they started producing some competetive weaponry and enginery

They didn't think they were subhuman

>Can't even take Stalingrad in 6 months
>Thought they were gonna take Moscow and Leningrad

>getting replaced by shitskins in your own countries

Mexico has like 1/3 of the US population

>mfw the allies think they won

looks like winning to me. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender

Wheras under the G*rms it would have been
>be allies
>lose
>live under the threat of a nuclear holocaust for almost half a century, because there's no possibility of invading the USA and if you think they hated the USSR, you ain't seen an Axis victory scenario
>getting replaced by G*rms in your own countries
>eventually see your own culture go to shit
>your offspring wishes Stalin won the war

>go to war with the entire world and lose
>decide that this is clearly the jewish people's fault

Did they really view jews as subhuman? Or just assholes? Because reading nazi dogma, they talk about jews as if they were parasites more than anything. They view jews as this "asiatic horde." This weird clan of asians with a weird supremacist religious views that just infiltrate nations, suck up all the wealth, and leave the carcass of the nation to rot. As in, they view jews as very clever and not just dumb niggers, like how they viewed russians.

Why are stormfags so stupid? Why do they think WW2 was a war for multiculturalism? Why do they think Hitler was trying to "save" Europe? Why are they so historically illiterate?

>Nazis had some of the best scientists and engineers in the world behind them
>everything the vodka-pickled slavs make is cheaper, can be built faster, is more durable, and all around better

because they are autistic

This.

>there are more niggers than nazis
>there are more jews than nazis
>there are more slavs than nazis
hmm rly maks u thick

>Mexican population: 122 million
>American population: 330 million
>1/3 of US pop = 110 million
Are you retarded?

There is literally no dissent on this board at all. Just a bunch of commies circlejerking each other all day, every day. At least /pol/ has actual discussions instead of whatever this is supposed to be.

>At least /pol/ has actual discussions
Stopped reading right there. If you say anything that challenges the collective /pol/ narrative, you get accused of being a shill or a jew, or you get shit on because of your nationality.

I will admit though, they do have interesting conversations once in a while, but to say that open and constructive discussion is characteristic of /pol/ is just straight up delusion.

There's tons of pol threads here daily, but this one thread triggers you because it's not your hugbox.

>be german
>claim racial superiority
>get slaughtered
>Germany gets sent on an eternal guilt trip
>fatherland gets swarmed with muslim refugees

No, there aren't, and I'm not a nazi.

Like any rational person, I get pretty bored hearing the same opinion over and over again ad nauseam. There are virtually no other prominent groups on this board aside from social democrats and communists.

>There are virtually no other prominent groups on this board aside from social democrats and communists.
There are virtually no other prominent groups on /pol/ aside from neo-Nazis and libertarians, so what's your point?

>when you browse a board for a whole day but no one's said NIGGERS ARE SUBHUMAN RACE WAR NOW yet
this board's lack of opinion diversity is disgusting desu you guys need to stop oppressing /pol/ and let the redditfugees culturally enrich you you fucking kekphobes

he literally was trying to preserve the ethnic makeup of europe

Are you retarded, you just showed that he's right...

>ethnic cleansing eastern europe in order to colonize it with "muh germanic master race!" based entirely on pseudo science and propaganda.

>preserving the ethnic makeup of europe

really made me think

He didn't see them as subhumans, he saw them as competition

>tfw you realize Germans were the real subhumans

>be Poland
>fight Germans for a few weeks in 1939, then get surprise attacked by Russians because Allies didn't tell you about The Pact
>fight Axis through whole war with all means possible
>be sold to communists by USA and UK

“Lord, protect me from my friends; I can take care of my enemies.” could be Poland's motto.

What was America and Britain supposed to do? If they rejected Soviet demands, there would almost certainly be war.

Furthermore, the pact Britain and Poland signed was against GERMAN aggression, not Soviet.

Many of the nazis have been and are Slavs.

eastern european neo nazis are just stupid slavic racist who beat up gay people and foreigners that have adopted nazi symbolism because they think its cool, just like every other neo nazi group.

Theres a reason nazism in any form has been politically irrelevant since '45

>What was America and Britain supposed to do? If they rejected Soviet demands, there would almost certainly be war.
There was plan to attack Axis north from Balkans, cutting off the USSR from Poland and Germany, which probably could be easier that attacking fortified beaches

>Furthermore, the pact Britain and Poland signed was against GERMAN aggression, not Soviet.
They didn't even fulfill the part about german attack. All they did was dropping mean words written on pieces of paper and actually started fighting when Germany started steamrolling France.

WW2 was the ultimate pyrrhic victory for the West,

By genociding Slavs or by bombing London?

>There was plan to attack Axis north from Balkans, cutting off the USSR from Poland and Germany, which probably could be easier that attacking fortified beaches

The reason this didn't go through is because
1. Getting supplies to North Africa was very difficult
2. They needed to prevent the Soviets occupying France
3. Stalin specifically requested a western front be opened up, constantly using making peace with Germany as a bartering tool.

>They didn't even fulfill the part about german attack. All they did was dropping mean words written on pieces of paper and actually started fighting when Germany started steamrolling France.
I'm sorry, what were they supposed to do?

>Navally Invade Germany
Operation Overlord alone took huge amounts of time, planning and resources. Imagine that x10 against a much more powerful Germany

>Advance into Germany
The French would've been pushed back if they made any serious advancement. Plus the Siegfried line.

im a Polack but can you blame the west? would you be willing to go to war again over the same country after fighting for 5+ years? Not their best or proudest moment but they had no other option. They gave us to the vatniks just like they gave Czechoslovakia to the Germans; for appeasement

but what I actually ment with my post was the last thing you wanted to do as a German was engage with Poles in exile
>numerous cases of Polish pilots "buzzing" parachuting German pilots
>"Canadian Flight Leader attache to the Polish 303rd Squadron John Kent wrote in his diary, 'We as Commonwealth pilots, fly to shoot down German bombers from killing innocent civilians, the Poles fly to kill the pilots in those planes, flying to unleash sheer suicidal rage and fury."

>actually started fighting when Germany started steamrolling France.
large numbers of English and French troops fought the Germans in Norway. They were sent to France when the Germans invaded, so dont act like France was the first place where Allied and German troops clashed in large scale battles

>we did it goebbels! we saved europa!

And the Nazis aren't around anymore, are they?

...

>3. Stalin specifically requested a western front be opened up, constantly using making peace with Germany as a bartering tool.
USA shouldn't been feeding him with so many trucks...
But I see the points, except the one about France

>I'm sorry, what were they supposed to do?
Fucking attack Germany because they promised they will do so, it was the only goddamn reason Poland didn't ally with/give Gdańsk/Danzig to Germany.
As far I know, German army wasn't so impressive at beginning and French army was bigger.
Apparently TKS (tankette) armed with 20mm machine gun was good enough to wreck german tanks in 1939, French had 37mm.

I'm not talking about some skinheads. I'm talking about actual Hitler's allies during WW2.

>It's just symbolism xD
Are you implying there are no devoted national socialists?

its around, but the only believers are low class people who need something to blame their troubles on

so no one really cares if a highschool dropout has a swastica tattoo, he wont accomplish anything in his lifetime

>I'm talking about actual Hitler's allies during WW2.

you mean the molotov ribbentrop pact or the hordes of wild ukranians the SS used to massacre women and children and/or guard concentration camps, effectivly becoming real life versions of the orcs from lord of the rings?

>Are you implying there are no devoted national socialists?

yes because there are none. They are all just bottom of the barrel pig headed retards who are racist and like the theatrical nature of nazism and its symbols. Thats it.

>Fucking attack Germany because they promised they will do so, it was the only goddamn reason Poland didn't ally with/give Gdańsk/Danzig to Germany.

And get fucking killed because of the siegfried line?

France, Britain and Poland all knew that in a war, poland wouldn't last. They knew this when they signed the pact.

The British-French plan was to fight a ww1 style defensive campaign against Germany and Italy, waiting until a British Blockade caused Germany and Italy to run out of supplies.
They never anticipated France would fall so quickly.

The pact with Poland didn't state 'We will prevent you being occupied by Germany' It stated that if they were invaded, Britain and France would go to war to maintain its independence.

Then you should have not used present tense.

>I'm talking about actual Hitler's allies during WW2.
Like Ustašists or Ukrainian auxilaries? People who managed to reach even higher level of barbarism than Nazis themselves?

I'm talking about full blown Axis member srates operating on natsoc principles: Croatia Slovakia and Bulgaria.

First Slovenský štát was not nazi, but clero-fascsist like pre-anschluss Austria.

Second it was not "member state" but puppet state. Tiso bowed to Hitler so that Slovakia would not end up swalloved by Hungary.

Third the regime was not exactely popular.

It's more left-wing than /pol/, of course, but it's hardly anywhere near as much as you're implying. For every pro-Marx thread or anti-German thread, there's one calling John Green a beta nu-male leftist cuck and another asking why blacks are so subhuman or whatever. I'd describe Veeky Forums as pretty balanced actually, and I think the only reason you perceive it to be overwhelmingly left-wing is because you're so used to /pol/ as the standard that it only seems left-wing in comparison.

The idea that /pol/ is somehow more open to diversity of viewpoints and challenges than Veeky Forums is also pretty rich.

First point is true only until Tuka got a large chunk of power, 2nd and 3rd points are nonsense, redditor.

>2nd and 3rd points are nonsense, redditor.

>actually trying to argue that slovakia wasnt a puppet state of hitler

stop being retarded

Yes, the regime was so fucking popular there was a massive resistance against Reds passing through and subsequent reunification with Czechs...oh wait!

>Slovaks want out of Czechoslovakia
>Hitler partitions Czechoslovakia, gives Slovakia independence
>Slovakia voluntarily joins Axis
>PUPPET STATE xD

By your standards every smaller state allied to a bigger state even today is a puppet, making the term meaningless.

There was and most leaders opposing it were jailed, killed or exiled.

They did have Leningrad by the balls, but Hitler went full retard and ordered them to siege the city out instead of just taking it.

>And get fucking killed because of the siegfried line?
No matter how long you waited, you had to go through it. Oh wait, actually Americans did it.
Ok, so you just wanted to wait for Germany to attack you, cool, but what would happen if they just went "nah, we cool now" and didn't attack France or Britain?
French and British populations would have no motivation to attack, letting Germany fight Soviet Union one-on-one. Who knows what would happen.

In 1940, after 6 months of Phoney War. WHOLE. SIX. MONTHS.

Rchan /pol/ absolutely is, it's inginity /pol/ that is full nazi.

>No matter how long you waited, you had to go through it. Oh wait, actually Americans did it.
Firstly, you dumb fucking Yank, that was in 1944 after Germany had lost 5 million on the Eastern Front, when the Americans and british outnumbered the Germans 5 to 1. You know it's not comparable.

>Ok, so you just wanted to wait for Germany to attack you, cool, but what would happen if they just went "nah, we cool now" and didn't attack France or Britain?

Then Britain and France would've placed a blockade on germany, taken Italian colonies and fought a war against Japan. This would slowly choke Germany as it did in ww1. it's irrelevant anyway as Germany would've attacked.

>French and British populations would have no motivation to attack, letting Germany fight Soviet Union one-on-one. Who knows what would happen.
It's irrelevant because it would literally never happen. Hitler was never going to try and fight all 3 at once.

>you had to go through it
Hell, my bad, I meant the French/British. I don't know of what nationality you are.

>when the Americans and british outnumbered the Germans 5 to 1. You know it's not comparable.
They were outnumbered in 1939 as well, because most of the German army was in Poland.

>it's irrelevant anyway as Germany would've attacked.
How do you know that? Maybe Hitler could have a good day and decide it's pointless to attack France and Britain, could give no fucks about Italy and try yo not piss off USA because Japan wanted to fight them.
Britain and France blocking Germany could be seen as aggravation, so people could protest it, not wanting to bring german wrath on them.

>It's irrelevant because it would literally never happen. Hitler was never going to try and fight all 3 at once.
I meant that they wouldn't want to fight Germany because they didn't see a point in it. All they would see is Germany fighting some slavs, duh, who is going to die for them?

>They were outnumbered in 1939 as well, because most of the German army was in Poland.
An army's value isn't numbers alone. It's irrelevant anyway because the Siegfried Line was still properly maintained, unlike in 1944.

>How do you know that? Maybe Hitler could have a good day and decide it's pointless to attack France and Britain, could give no fucks about Italy and try yo not piss off USA because Japan wanted to fight them.
Why would Hitler EVER do this? Despite the fact there's still mobile warfare in North Africa he has a complete personality change and decides to not invade France. What are you even trying to argue here?

>I meant that they wouldn't want to fight Germany because they didn't see a point in it. All they would see is Germany fighting some slavs, duh, who is going to die for them?

Because amazingly not everyone in 1940 was an edgy 14 year old like you and realized Germany was commiting acts of genocide against the slavs.

Why do you think Britain rejected Hitler's white peace offer after the fall of france? Honestly wondering.

Ssshhh... you will trigger /pol/

>Slovaks want out of Czechoslovakia
Nope, separatist did not even wanted own state, just more autonomy.
>Slovakia voluntarily joins Axis
Top lel

>There was
Please tell me about those dozens of thousands Slovaks going to mountains to fight Czech occupation.

>It's irrelevant anyway because the Siegfried Line was still properly maintained, unlike in 1944.
Well, they could try in naval warfare, apparently they did well in those few cases they clashes with German navy during Phoney War. British navy was bigger than German.

>Despite the fact there's still mobile warfare in North Africa
It started in 1940, AFTER France fell

>What are you even trying to argue here?
The possibilities, bud, the possibilities

>Because amazingly not everyone in 1940 was an edgy 14 year old like you and realized Germany was commiting acts of genocide against the slavs.
In 1940, after 6-8 months of doing nearly nothing, wow.

>Why do you think Britain rejected Hitler's white peace offer after the fall of france? Honestly wondering.
>after the fall of france
You still not getting it, right?

>Well, they could try in naval warfare, apparently they did well in those few cases they clashes with German navy during Phoney War. British navy was bigger than German.

They did. there was a blockade on germany, until the fall of france as blockading both france and Germany was impossible.

>It started in 1940, AFTER France fell
But in your scenario, France never falls because Hitler doesn't attack, but that doesn't mean the british and french won't invade libya.

>The possibilities, bud, the possibilities
The possibilities if Hitler went a complete personality change and made non sensical moves like not invading France.

>In 1940, after 6-8 months of doing nearly nothing, wow.
We've been through this, Britain and France were planning to fight back through a defensive, ww1 style war. Moving into Germany would've been futile because of the fact Germany will occupy poland anyway and then kick the allies out in 2 minutes.

>You still not getting it, right?
I'm asking what you think the allies motivations for guaranteeing to fight germany if germany invaded poland were

>What was America and Britain supposed to do?
stick to their word?

And get absolutely destroyed by the Soviet army. Sounds good!

>They did. there was a blockade on germany, until the fall of france as blockading both france and Germany was impossible.
It was just economical war that actually went until end of war. Where were desant on german land? Especially that most of german army was tied in Poland?

>But in your scenario, France never falls because Hitler doesn't attack, but that doesn't mean the british and french won't invade libya.
In that case it would be Italian-British war as Germany wouldn't be really invested in fighting Allies

>Moving into Germany would've been futile because of the fact Germany will occupy poland anyway and then kick the allies out in 2 minutes.
Yes, I know, Siegfried Line, there was always the navy desant option as I written above

>non sensical moves like not invading France
What is so nonsensical about it? There were strong anti-war sentiments in France and Britain.

>I'm asking what you think the allies motivations for guaranteeing to fight germany if germany invaded poland were
And I'm asking why Allies why promised help to Poland if they were planning to sit in their bunkers until they start growing cacti on their heads.
If they were worried about Germany getting too strong, it would be fairly wise to attack in some way(navy desant or aircraft, preferably) when german army was tied in Poland because Germany as well remembered trench war in not the best way and they wouldn't just run mindlessly at machine guns like last time.
If they waited for Germany and Soviet Union to start fighting (what didn't happen till later, what a bad luck, indeed) then Poland was a tool aquired for cost of some cheap words and empty promises.

>he thinks /pol/ is representative of the real world and not a retard bin

Its not left-wing, we just know what we're talking about because we actually care about history rather than selectively co-opting it to fit our retarded ideology.

>Nope, separatist did not even wanted own state, just more autonomy.
ACKSHUALLY, they wanted to fuck off from the Czechs by any means necessary, Tuka for example wanted to re-join Hungary and was jailed for it. They only adopted the autonomist stance because the Czechoslovak government would literally imprison them for trying to secede. Then when Hitler offered them independence, they took it and never looked back.

>im a Polack but can you blame the west? would you be willing to go to war again over the same country after fighting for 5+ years? Not their best or proudest moment but they had no other option. They gave us to the vatniks just like they gave Czechoslovakia to the Germans; for appeasement

True, but Poland probably will be salty over it for quite long.
It wouldn't be that bad if it was just Russia having Poland and gloating how big it is again and yadayada. The problem is the Soviets fucking ruined Poland and we are still feeling the effects of their failed system. The only good thing that came out of it is that we hate leftists now, just in time to see how delusional The West got.

>It was just economical war that actually went until end of war. Where were desant on german land? Especially that most of german army was tied in Poland?

Are you not a native english speaker? i can't quite understand this sentence (not being rude i legit can't)

>In that case it would be Italian-British war as Germany wouldn't be really invested in fighting Allies
And where does Hitler get his oil from for his Eastern Campaigns? it makes no sense for Hitler to not attack France. Just none.

>Yes, I know, Siegfried Line, there was always the navy desant option as I written above
All Britain could do was destroy German transports. A naval invasion was out of the question. It'd be operation overlord x10 without America's resources.

>What is so nonsensical about it? There were strong anti-war sentiments in France and Britain.
Because
>France has valuable factories
>Germany must maintain troops in the west that meets france's strength, making that + barbarossa impossible
>Germany will still be under British Blockade

>And I'm asking why Allies why promised help to Poland if they were planning to sit in their bunkers until they start growing cacti on their heads.

They did everything they could. That was
>Blockade Germany
>Fight the Italians
>Set up defences
>Begin air raids

You must remember ww1 was only twenty years before, and Britain and france were still in a ww1 state of mind. They hadn't adapted to mobile warfare yet.

Then let's go to the fact an offensive into Germany is once again impossible.
>Siegfried line
>Can't Navally invade
>Can't send troops through the baltic to support Poland.

They really did EVERYTHING they could.

Because the winners didn't believe only the strongest survive.

You just proved his point user

You are basing that on Tuka? Some irrelevant magyarophilic cuck that only gained power by sucking Hitler's balls?

What discussions on /pol/? It's more of a circlejerk than Veeky Forums. They bought into pizzagate almost unilaterally. The only dissenting opinion there is the occasional shitty /leftypol/ bait thread.

There are right-wing members on Veeky Forums, but they are monarchists and catholic conservatives rather than edgy Hitler-Ron Paul hybrids.

>Are you not a native english speaker? i can't quite understand this sentence (not being rude i legit can't)
No, I'm not, weirdly enough I managed to fool you for so long. Apparently "desant" doesn't count as english word, my bad.
In short:
-Allies were just trying to cut supply lines to Germany
-in that case there was no legit attempt to land troops in Germany from sea.

>And where does Hitler get his oil from for his Eastern Campaigns? it makes no sense for Hitler to not attack France. Just none.
It still wasn't enough, while it helped, Germany probably wasted more oil fighting Allies instead of going straight for USSR

>A naval invasion was out of the question. It'd be operation overlord x10 without America's resources.
I don't think beach defense[how is this properly named?] in Germany was so developed

>Because
>>France has valuable factories
True
>>Germany must maintain troops in the west that meets france's strength, making that + barbarossa impossible
If Italy didn't join the war and if Siegfried Line was so good, the French wouldn't get in
>>Germany will still be under British Blockade
It wouldn't be effective if Germany got ahold on Russia's resource, even in reality it wasn't working that much till 1941.

They did everything they could. That was
>Blockade Germany
>Fight the Italians
>Set up defences
>Begin air raids
Well, I agree on all besides the air raids, those were half-assed.

>They hadn't adapted to mobile warfare yet.
And this bite them in the ass, it's normal.

>Then let's go to the fact an offensive into Germany is once again impossible.
>>Siegfried line
Got it. The only possibility would be going full asshole and go through Italy
>>Can't Navally invade
I could argue here, but guess they had it hard already, I'm not sure here
>>Can't send troops through the baltic to support Poland.
True, I guess, getting around Italy would be pain is the ass.

Well, I'm tired of looking through Wikipedia and I noticed I'm trying too hard, sorry.

>Tuka
>irrelevant
You could argue he was a top 5 man within the party. His arrest and imprisonment was also quite a huge deal, you should read something about him.

>They bought into pizzagate almost unilaterally.
Well, they got hands on some creepy shit. Considering how fucked up people can be... it can be real.

Also, this "they were MERELY PRETENDING to want independence" is literally just a retcon from the postwar era.