>We Greeks are the successor state to Rome!
>No, we Germans are!
>Germans? That's a funny way to spell Iberian
>Iberian? You know who the Iberians were ruled by? THAS RIGHT WE WUZ EMPERORS
Why did nobody ever look to actual Rome as the successor to Rome?
There were only three Romes
>Why did nobody ever look to actual Rome as the successor to Rome?
That was the Germans.
THERE WAS NO SUCCESSOR TO ROME. ROME FELL IN 1453 AND EVERYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS JUST WEWUZING LIKE A BIG-MOUTHED NIGGER. PERIOD
>Rome fell in 1453
But the Greeks didn't control Rome so how could it be Rome?
There is no "successor" to Rome. There was a single Roman state that was founded in the 8th century BC and fell in the 15th century AD
That's it. That's all.
Would you consider the Eastern Roman Empire to be Roman for the 200 years it did control Rome?
CONSTANTINOPLE WAS ROME. AS MUCH AS YOU CATHONIGGERS LIKE TO SAY OTHERWISE, THAT WAS WHERE CONSTANTINE THE GREAT MOVED THE ROMAN CAPITAL IN 330AD
For those 200 years it was. As soon as it lost physical Rome, it ceased to be Roman.
>CONSTANTINOPLE WAS ROME
Citation needed
>Roman empire
>The best emperors were Iberians
>The best troops were Iberians
>The best philosophers were Iberian
>The gold came from Iberia
Nice """"""""""Roman""""""""" empire
Except the 1000 year Reich lasted six years.
> Yet another Greek that thinks East Roman Empire was Greek Empire
> Greek education
it's both though
There is no actual academic dispute here. The "Byzantine Empire" is the Roman Empire. No serious historian considers HRE to be actually Roman. These are just memes.
Boy, you're retarded
>T. Andronikos Constanine Stephanopolous
Sure, some LARPing Greek retards are Roman, while the actual owners of Rome who still speak Latin derived languages aren't Roman.
Greek language is an essential part of Roman culture.
>larping Greek retards
It was literally the same state.
Also the city of Rome was basically considered a backwater hamlet by the end of the 3rd century. Constantinople, Ravenna and Milan were the cities people cared about.
Wrong. All the Nazis ever did was chimp-out and then this "empire" began to collapse a few weeks after this map shows. The Napoleonic Empire was great, but, as much as I love it and Napoleon, it simply did not last like Rome did.
*constantinople was the capital of the roman empire
t. Luigi Cellini Mundolini
rome didn't have the perfidious anglo to sabotage their imperial ambitions
the tribes in that wretched island fought bravely like the rest of the barbarians and didn't pay others to fight for them
also, the technological and social gap between romans and the rest of the "world" was huge and made the empire building a tutorial level with all hand-holding elements present
>Why did nobody ever look to actual Rome as the successor to Rome?
But they did, the Pope got into a dick waving contest with the eastern emperor about religious sovereignty.
The ecclesiastical heirarchy of the roman empire survived, and the bishop of Rome promoted himself as the sole ruler of it.
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"Rome" is an anachronism invented by later academics and WE WUZERS. There's no objective definition and never will.
HRE is the true successor of Rome.
t. turk
>carthaginians, parthians, ptolemys, greeks, sassanid, germanic hordes
>civil war every other decade
>civil unrest every other month
>tutorial level
Eagle flagpoles are pretty common in America. I imagine that most nations with birds do a similar thing. It has nothing to do with claiming succession from Rome, besides that it's a continuation of practice originally spread or inspired by Rome.
>most nations with birds
with birds as national animals********
>look at all those contained threats, sir
>hold your mouse right button to move the camera and click in all the threats with your left mouse button to destroy them
literal facebook game tier
>look at these contained threats sir
>they sacked Rome before
>look at this other one, he btfo'd everything we had to throw at him
>look at that npc, he looks like he has more gravitas than you and is threatening your safety with his mobs
Try coming up with a decent response and an argument