What did they abandoned Odin for chr*stianity?

Because Thor was a shitty knockoff Indra anyway.

What does he say about truth?

>If this was true we'd expect a pagan resurgence in terms of actual worship and literature, but we don't, Christianity was more than just nominal.

You mean like how paganism is once again on the upswing, Christianity is declining in the west, and atheism is beating the pants off both?

>Not materially, neither does Christianity, there are plenty of impoverished Christians.

Except in the medieval world from the perspective of a ruler, it absolutely did. There's a reason most conversions were a top-down affair that would see decades or even centuries of weeding out worshipers of the old ways.

This is how heathen became a byword for backwoods hicks.

The rulers converted in order to more easily justify their own rule and to gain access to the knowledge and wealth of the christian lands to their south. Then the rest of the population gradually converted over a few hundred years because the older faith was gradually suppressed.

>>meme religion
Sounds pretty awesome to me brah, I'd love to attend services at the temple of spurdo sparde and morn the tremendous suffering inflicted upon our finnish protectors by the korean barbarians.

The danish king Harald Bluetooth the christian germans were itching for a fight, so he decided to convert to protect his holdings and avoid a unwinnable war. The problem was that he couldnt be king unless he had a christian ancestor already, so he had his fathers corpse dug up and baptized and then buried in a little shitty wooden church. His son Sweyn Forkbeard would revolt and return to the pagan faith but eventually denmark re-converted. The rest of the nordics eventually converted as well to avoid the hungry gaze of the crazy germans. But we killed a whole lot of priests before that

noticed*

>we

Because Odin was killed by YHWH. The arrival of faceless god was their Ragnarok.

>we

The influence of the Holy Spirit. It's not coincidence Christianity flourishes everywhere it goes. If it wasn't for persecution even Japan would be Christian.

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That. Or maybe, Odin's spear was shattered by something more powerful.

Christianity only "flourished" in 16th century Japan because a few prominent lords converted and forced their subjects to convert. They later rebelled against the Shogun and were crushed.

Japan's had freedom of religion and been open to missionaries since the mid 19th century and Christianity's hardly made any progress at all. Less than 2% of the population is Christian today.

Christianity doesn't convert people with swords like Islam.

o i am laffin

That's funny, since the only time Japan was in danger of becoming Christian was when it was being spread by the sword.

> baiting this hard
> hurr Marxists have no faith
Let's just ignore the things we can actually study and explain everything with magic and mysticism, I'm sure that will be conducive to intelligent debate.

How did the lords converted in the first place then?

Europe's conversion was mostly peaceful, I won't talk about America or Africa.

>Europe's conversion was mostly peaceful
There was extreme religious violence in the process of christianizing all the pagans of the roman empire

There were also several crusades against non christians or christian heretics in europe

only the saxons and baltics were violently persecuted

the greeks, romans, franks, goths, anglo-saxons and celts all converted willingly even the scandinavians ended up coming around on their own accord

Christians were less than 10% of the population with some estimates as low as 2% at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. Constantine and his successors passed laws that marginalized pagans until Theodosius wholesale made it illegal. Christianity has spread much the same way Islam has, where it became socially advantageous to convert after they got a Christian leader through to conversion or conquest.

>Christianity has spread much the same way Islam has

This is a lie; Islam never emphasized preaching and missionary work to the same degree Christianity has and was unquestionably more violent from its inception given that Mohammad was literally a warlord.

The same reason Europeans now are abandoning their tradition for the new globalist belief system (social justice). It's being shilled and forced by those in power.

After the fall of Rome, various kings wanted to become the next dominant empire. But they lacked a central force (a sense of identity, a man to follow), they found that motif in Christ. Thus Christendom was born, an empire, but instead of an emperor at the head, God was the head. Who the hell would question God? It made for a very strong belief in the will of the empire, for God was the head, they were not serving themselves but serving God (so it seemed).

They couldn't do this with Paganism. They needed a new hip religion, a simple and streamlined one that anyone could understand. Most importantly, one that demanded submission to the church, which essentially was the state. It fit perfectly.

It was all a method of getting people to follow those in power. Anyone who used it was helped immensely in their quest to gain power and win the game of thrones, see: Constantine. So many followed his method due to his great success in utilizing this tool. It was even forced upon others to get them to submit to the state, or to another state.

Back to modern times, the globalists are using this same method, but with an ideology instead of a religion because people just don't do the religion thing as much anymore. The ideas are the same, love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, all who oppose us are evil, and submission/reliance to the state. They even have their own devil, the straight white male.

It's all by careful design, to get you to fall in line and do what they want you to do. Many served the will of these new emperors faithfully to the point they would sell out their own family if they were against "God" (witch hunts). The same applied during Communism, when people would sell out their family if they opposed the state. Faith and fervor can be used as a political tool, Christianity certainly was.

The most common answer is that they lost faith when christians would destroy pagan holy sites and they would not be struck down by the gods.

Given that the large muslim populations of southeast asia owe their existence almost entirely to conversion efforts over trade routes instead of war, we can say that it had some emphasis on missionary work.

>Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected.

Yes Muslims can do peaceful missionary work but my argument is that it's to a significantly lesser extent than Christianity and this becomes obvious when you compare the types of leaders Muhammad and Jesus were.

Is YHWH the Fenrir wolf?

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If i'm not mistaken, celtic paganism was abandoned because only druids were allowed to posses knowledge of their religion (it was like a secret) and the common celt only had a narrow understanding of what he's worshipping, so they chose a religion that is open to everybody
Maybe it was the same case with norse?

TFW Albanian

TFW mother is Arberesh Catholic hailing from the migration away from Turks in the 1400-1500s

TFW father is Muslim and highly patriarchal, TFW he subtly opposes mother and dominstes her to the point where she is a shell of what she used to he, a mere reflection of father's moods

TFW father is ignorant and mother hails from a pious family, TFW ask myself if things would be different if she had had more control of family dynamics

Wtf is racist about it, kiddo?

If anything it's against Europeans. They do this shit because they're obsessed with being hip. Christians were the hipsters of their time, with just as much desire to fit into a new scene and just as much pussification.

Can somebody post "my Lord spit on that fag odin"?

>Christians were the hipsters of their time
>and just as much pussification

>Just as much pussification.

Dude, did you post-Roman Empire history classes?

Because they were getting their asses kicked and preffered to convert instead of endind like the Baltics after the crusade.

Dude, water to wine lmao!

Those are not Vikings, they are Nords from the video game Mount and Blade

kys albo scum

>>only the saxons and baltics were violently persecuted
Bullshit.

>>the greeks, romans,
lol no. Read up on some of the shit that Theodosius ordered.

>>franks, goths, anglo-saxons and celts all converted willingly
Maybe their leaders did for cynical political reasons, but the common people clung to their old beliefs for centuries and a lot of the time popular pagan deities were recast as christian saints to aid conversion.

>>even the scandinavians ended up coming around on their own accord
Yeah no, their old beliefs were gradually outlawed and driven underground and thus those beliefs gradually died out.

Fuck you christard, you don't get to downplay the crimes your churches committed in the name of your faith.

>thread about vikings
>uses a picture of the nords from m&b

every fucking time

Tyr kills fenrir
So no?

Tfw also Albanian

Tfw Roman Catholic

TFW both father and mother descended from catholic highlander tribes, both tribes dating back to pre ottoman expansion

Tfw revel in dozens of songs we have about defeating Turks and muslims and the rich history we have. Is pretty good desu.

Moving the goalposts man.

>Maybe their leaders did for cynical political reasons, but the common people clung to their old beliefs for centuries and a lot of the time popular pagan deities were recast as christian saints to aid conversion.
>angry pagan larper pretend his guys were some opressed mass, when in reality christianity began as a common man religion

>tfw apparently 100% of Albanians can't greentext

>implying that using arrows somehow make it easier to read
the arrows are just extra in all honestly

Irrelevant, honestly. The greentext arrows are de facto syntax for Veeky Forums. Think about it like some sort of dialect.

no, eye do nut wnt 2

Because Christ is Lord.

People did revert back to paganism, but they were put down. Olaf the Holy, Sigurd the Crusader, etc.

Also, Chrsitianity in Scandinavia was very influenced by Paganism, and in many ways is still so.

>hehe stronk pagan viking unlike christians ;)
>Harald Bluetooth
>Harald Hadrada
>Hakon The Good
>all christians
>they apparently don't count

anyway vikanz were shit meme warriors good only against unarmed people to begin with Saxons shit stomped them real good

Because Norse paganism wasn't an organized religion, just a set of belief structures. It was perfectly logical to believe other gods outside the pantheon existed, and were maybe even more powerful than the gods you worship

Is this 9gag

yea the danelaw totally wasnt a thing

Odin used his spear to point at fallen men worthy of entering Valhalla so his Valkyries could pick them up tho.

Organized religion will always win against paganism. Paganism is more tradition than a unified belief system.

Because Nimrod died and stayed dead, while Jesus died and rose from the dead.

People follow gods who win, and help them win, not gods who lose, and cause them to lose.

If you don't know that all pagan gods have a common beginning in Babylon, you need to pick up a book and start reading. I suggest Hislop's "the Two Babylons" for starters.

>angry pagan
nope
>larper
Also no, and amusing given the propensity of christards on here to pretend to be either crusading knights or soldiers in protestant armies fighting the decadent papists or some shit.
>pretend his guys were some opressed mass,
No pretending necessary, it really happened.

when in reality christianity began as a common man religion
hilariously simplistic, christardation was the religion of outsiders, it only became the religion of the common people in the roman empire when Theodosius started persecuting non-christian faiths.

Fuck you and your church you nigger faggot.

>it only became the religion of the common people in the roman empire when Theodosius started persecuting non-christian faiths.
Not him, and that's not true at all.

For one thing, as far back as Pliny the younger do we have pagans complaining about Christianity being the religion of slaves and women, well predating Theodosius.

By the time Constantine decriminalized Christianity, some believe it may have been a cynical political ploy because every single soldier in both his and his opponent's army (with the exception of a few generals from old families) were Christian.

For another thing, pagan high society was even more oppressive than the Christian one that replaced it. Consider the Lex Julia, Augustus's laws forcing social conservatism on the masses (never-minding the fact that aristocrats could subvert it). Christians may have persecuted non-Christians but at least they weren't butchering them for mass entertainment. Christians abolished blood sport and took up racing as their preferred past time. Christians put a stop to institutionalized slavery.

>because every single soldier in both his and his opponent's army (with the exception of a few generals from old families) were Christian
Source?

Of course, salvation is pretty much cheap. Even hitler get it.

We don't praise someone who dash children with stones.

Psalm 137:9
Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.

BASED AS FUCK

Jesus? Prince of peace? That kill innocent children?

Revelation 2:23
I will strike her children dead...

Those damn children. Deserve death for crime they didn't commit.

THANK GOD JESUS CAME TO KILL THEM.

>*sigh*
This shit may be accepted in reddit but if you're here you need to adapt senpai.

It did work in Korea for some reason. Catholicism is the biggest religion in South-Korea even though they've only been exposed to it a relatively short time. It's also growing very fast in China, an estimated 5000 conversions every day even though the government actively works against it.

I don't believe that globalism is a good substitute for organized religion. Even though man can gain power thru globalism, it's hard for man to hold onto the power and keep the people in line. Right now the Left and Globalists are cannibalizing each other, fighting over who is supposed to be in control. Then again, this is one of the consequences of people being told to always question authority.

you have to stop LARPing in the woods eventually

Yup. The Prince of Peace is also the Lord of Hosts.

I will ask to see you see Him, face-to-face.

>Even hitler get it.

kek

no

Just no.

>Catholics
>Saved
>Salvation
>Cheap

How many demons are you up to now? 14?

>Catholicism is the biggest religion in South-Korea even though they've only been exposed to it a relatively short time
Protestantism is. Though Christianity's largely been stagnant in Korea for the past few decades and Catholicism in particular has declined.

Not the case among Korean-Americans and they support Korean churches.

can confirm as Korean American ex-pat. Here in the US the overwhelming majority of Korean Americans are protestant.

ugh...what a meme. the Nords embraced Christianity. the Slavs actually defended the old faith, against the Saxons and Danes mostly (ironically enough).