Let's be real for a moment

sorry, you made a philosophy thread. I could empathize with you, but that would not require any reason, just emotion.

quick rundown on how exactly Mike pence being in power is going to effect you negatively?

typical grrrrllll getting hysterical because all she reads is huffpo

>But to my knowledge, no one has ever died of a blow job.
if you get AIDS, yes. or maybe if you bite the dick off and choke on it

>I once disliked empathy, but now I like it, so your argument is invalid
woman logic, folks. it's incredible.

Thus Dante’s motto over Inferno applies with equal force to marriage: “Ye who enter here leave all hope behind.”

That marriage is a failure none but the very stupid will deny. One has but to glance over the statistics of divorce to realize how bitter a failure marriage really is. Nor will the stereotyped Philistine argument that the laxity of divorce laws and the growing looseness of woman account for the fact that: first, every twelfth marriage ends in divorce; second, that since 1870 divorces have increased from 28 to 73 for every hundred thousand population; third, that adultery, since 1867, as ground for divorce, has increased 270.8 per cent.; fourth, that desertion increased 369.8 per cent.

Have you ever felt empathy with all the unborn boys killed by scumbag women? At this point nothing but complete gynocide would be satisfying, you're wretched and evil as a sex.

Who cares? Women are too dumb to into power, and when they are 'allowed' a position of power, insane shit happens like they let in thousands and thousands of people in their country that they've been trying to keep out of their lands for millennia. or win a nobel piece price before turning a blind eye to genocide in their country. that second thing has happened twice, btw.

Never mind the vicious nonsense of claiming that an embryo has a “right to life.” A piece of protoplasm has no rights—and no life in the human sense of the term. One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months. To equate a potential with an actual, is vicious; to advocate the sacrifice of the latter to the former, is unspeakable. . . . Observe that by ascribing rights to the unborn, i.e., the nonliving, the anti-abortionists obliterate the rights of the living: the right of young people to set the course of their own lives. The task of raising a child is a tremendous, lifelong responsibility, which no one should undertake unwittingly or unwillingly. Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals. For conscientious persons, an unwanted pregnancy is a disaster; to oppose its termination is to advocate sacrifice, not for the sake of anyone’s benefit, but for the sake of misery qua misery, for the sake of forbidding happiness and fulfillment to living human beings.

“A Last Survey”
The Ayn Rand Letter, IV, 2, 3

>Ayn Rand
Yep, typical woman right here. One day someone will declare them non-humans on par with those "pieces of protoplasm", we'll see how they like it.

A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as “a rational animal,” would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of “person” to a few human cells.

The Objectivist Forum “The Age of Mediocrity”
The Objectivist Forum, June 1981, 2

>Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals.
You are a stock-farm animal, my property. You shall create offspring who will provide for me in my old age.

>A piece of protoplasm has no rights
rights are artificially assigned to things by humans. they're an abstraction. this argument is meaningless. one person believes a cow has rights, another doesn't. it's subjective. there are people who think plants have rights.

>—and no life in the human sense of the term.
what? according to what branch of biology is this definition of "life"?

I only have to read two sentences of that to realize the writer is a retard. I wasn't surprised at all when I saw who said that.

F. Scott Fitzgerald — 'The rich get richer and the poor get - children.'

what you're presenting is an opinion. I think you're under the impression that it's objective reasoning. need help?

I think even people who don't know who Ayn Rand was would realize she was a Jew after reading that sociopathic drivel.

“A right,” according to Ayn Rand , “is a moral principle defining and sanctioning a person's freedom of action in a social context” (“Man's Rights,” Virtue of Selfishness [New York: Penguin, 1964], 130). ... Rights are derived from the capacity to reason, and thus people have rights and animals do not.Jan 23, 2011

why are some people incapable of writing their own sentences?

Quotation, n: The act of repeating erroneously the words of another.
Ambrose Bierce, The Unabridged Devil's Dictionary

[A] quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself, always a laborious business."
(The Record Lie)
A.A. Milne, If I May

>Rights are derived from the capacity to reason
>Rights

welcome to the club toots. im a f*cking white male and for the past 8 years ive had ideologues telling me i should feel guilty just for existing. so yes i can sympathize with you (inb4 you tell me that i cant because of my white penis) and all i can say is just suck it up because eventually the pendulum will swing back your way just as its swinging my way now.

>Reason

How about you do some deeper political reading than huffpo and buzzfeed headlines

yes, "rights" are artificial abstractions that exist that are arbitrarily and subjectively assigned to various life forms and even inanimate objects by different people/groups of people. denying the existence of "rights" doesn't make sense, as they are an existing social mechanism.

what you don't seem to understand, is that "rights" are 100% subjective on a person-to-person basis. for example: blacks had few rights compared to whites in southern US before the civil war, because it was the opinion of people in power that they were undeserving of such rights.

the line between subjectivity and objectivity is blurred for you, because you're a woman and you put more attention into your feelings than your ability to reason.

>Alexander Dugin
You're scared of some complete cuckold living on the other side of the planet?

The right to life is the cornerstone of society, without respecting that the society ceases to exist.

>evil conservative men want you to be taken care of by your husband while you play with your kids

Oh the horror, will someone think of the career womyn!

FUCK DRUMPF
FUCK WHITE PEOPLE

ITT: Virgins and trolls
You know which one you are.

You have no right to life. the state just has a monopoly on violence

This post right here is the pinnacle of female intelligence.

I will never stop fighting for the progress women have made, allowing themselves to work full time as a single mom taking care of chads kid.

that's contradicted by every execution ever held, every slave beaten to death, every infanticide, every murder, every war, in the history of forever. society didn't cease when people lost their rights to life more times than I can count. you're living in a fantasy mind world.

both?

Superficial 'muh child murder' freedom isn't actual freedom.

Nothing but a God can restrict.
Why is empathy good?
Ayn Rand is a nonentity.
Rationality doesn't exist.

>1915: dumb whores
>2015: dumb whores
Yawn

I'm a dude, and I think you're the first

>yeah well bad things happen so why have laws haha checkmate conservatards

>I'm a dude
>white knighting on an anonymous imageboard
Sure think Sheila. Fuck off back to HuffPo.

Life isn't all about individuality and freedom. It's also about community and responsibility. You can't just do what ever you want with your life because ultimately you owe your existence to those who came before you and the systems laid down that allowed you the privilege of security and safety to ponder such questions. You as an 'individual' are in fact beholden to certain traditions and social constructs which developed in culture as a means of protecting and stabilizing the culture, the culture which is intrinsic to you. Would you sacrifice it for the mere flights of fancy? Are you really so important? The answer is, no. You aren't important, but woman is. Women in particular have a very important responsibility and biological role to the survival of our species. A role, which if corrupted, threatens the future survival and progression of our offspring. You do in fact have a duty. As do men. But only men seem to understand the concept of duty, which is why we were given the strength and you the womb.

this is the wall I can't pass when trying to reason with women. eventually they focus on some kind of "i'm smart and right, you're dumb and stupid" abstraction, repeat it, and ignore you. I'm trying to figure out a way around this cognitive dissonance wall. has anyone found a method?

...

>The agriculture gender roles of the Native Americans varied from region to region. In the southwest area, men prepared the soil with hoes. The women were in charge of planting, weeding, and harvesting the crops. In most other regions, the women were in charge of doing everything, including clearing the land. Clearing the land was an immense chore since the Native Americans rotated fields frequently. There is a tradition that Squanto showed the Pilgrims in New England how to put fish in fields to act like a fertilizer, but the truth of this story is debated.

Hmm, I'm definitely leaning towards the second option now...

Yes, don't be an ugly virgin :^)

that's not just some aberrations that break the societal norm, the death penalty has always been a part of society and still is outside of Europe.

Why would any woman unironically not want to be a housewife raising her kids?

Women who desire a career for 25+ years are deluded or mentally deranged.

>54 posts
>12 IPs
someone here is really, really lonely

Are you really too dense to grasp legal executions versus abortions out of convenience?

>the pendulum will swing back your way
When in history have women ever before had actual liberty to choose their lives? It's not a pendulum.

>past 8 years
8 years of "white cis men"-memes?! You poor thing! The entire history of civilized mankind suppressing the female gender is nothing in comparison, certainly.

what? what you're suggesting I said has nothing to do with what I actually said. do you know what a "strawman argument" is, and why it doesn't make sense? you just made one.

I hope you get violently assaulted so that you can challenge your completely useless and irrational worldview in favor of something that comports to reality.

Just laugh and know that they have a shelf life, and that their value plummets at 30.

>my side of the planet is your side of the planet

Maybe there is a reason women have never been in charge, anywhere, for any reason, for any length of time.

Explain again the claimed current female oppression of men. Please specify.

weird, I don't fit that description but still every woman I talk to is fucking retarded. it must be something else causing the lack of ability to reason, then. it'd be weird if it was something external to the female's mind, anyway.

>legal executions
>legal
that's exactly it. some killing is allowed. if you have a "right" to life then you cannot be killed in any case. there is no right to life, you just lack the right to kill others under most circumstances according to the state

That was my first post ITT???

Best line was Jack Nicholson's in "As Good As It Gets":

Womyn: How do you write women so well?

Jack: I just write a man, and then take away reason and accountability.

it's not a competition, I'm just literally trying to figure out a way to teach philosophical and logical principles to women, as it's very challenging.

that reason is the sexist white male patriarchy!!!!!1!!111! reeeeeeeeeeeeee

So why are you worried about Mike Pence if you live in Russia?

To call woman the weaker sex is a libel; it is man's injustice to woman. If by strength is meant brute strength, then, indeed, is woman less brute than man. If by strength is meant moral power, then woman is immeasurably man's superior. Has she not greater intuition, is she not more self-sacrificing, has she not greater powers of endurance, has she not greater courage? Without her, man could not be. If nonviolence is the law of our being, the future is with woman. Who can make a more effective appeal to the heart than woman?"

[To the Women of India (Young India, Oct. 4, 1930)]
Mahatma Gandhi

Not just oppression but genocide. Millions of little boys murdered annually.

>projecting your insecurity and failures with women as faults with them while ignoring your inner issues
I think you fit my analysis perfectly desu

Thanks again for reminding why ghandhi was a socialist, self loathing cuck

They're literally not wired for it.

They're wired for security. Just look at the womyn who started this thread. Felt that her security was threatened by who the VP is. A man she will never be in contact with who will do absolutely nothing against her personally, ever.

Yet she's terrified.

>As a woman

Don't forget a pedophile.

I would rather trust a woman's instinct than a man's reason.

Stanley Baldwin

>moral realist arguments
nice opinions. india is such a great example of social success, infrastructure, and woman's rights.

Again, let's be real. Do you honest to God truly believe this?
I'm asking you user, don't troll now but be sincere. Do you really believe in those words? Do you honestly struggle to understand why?

Not him, but you're one of the two options he mentioned there at the end.

Seriously.

I do not think I ever opened a book in my life which had not something to say upon woman's inconstancy. Songs and proverbs, all talk of woman's fickleness. But perhaps you will say, these were all written by men."

"Perhaps I shall. Yes, yes, if you please, no reference to examples in books. Men have had every advantage of us in telling their own story. Education has been theirs in so much higher a degree; the pen has been in their hands. I will not allow books to prove anything.

Jane Austen, Persuasion

So? Answer the question. Tell me how horrible the current female-to-male oppression is. Specify how it affects you and your life's choices.

if you don't have any of your own words to say you might as well say nothing at all

>This thread

what a hot opinion you and him share. here's my equally valid-in-this-argument opinion that some dude said at some point:

"God created woman. And boredom did indeed cease from that moment — but many other things ceased as well! Woman was God's second mistake."

A library is a place where you can lose your innocence without losing your virginity.

at least ONE philosopher.

That would be one more than I would listen to.

so jane austen's opinions, now? you really do have no understanding of the difference between subjective reasoning and objective reasoning, that's insane.

check out pic related for some other hot opinions, kago's got some interesting idea about women, just like austen does about men.

also, you might want to look up what an "argument from authority" is, and why it isn't a valid form of argumentation.

Can you be more edgy? You're a living parody.

>completely misses the point

You shouldn't be worried about Trump or Pence, you should be worried about Supreme Court appointments and what your local state politicians are doing. Trump's hilariously assholish twitter account means nothing to you personally and most of the policies he wishes to promote will not be able to negatively affect you much.

>and the belief that women do not have souls.[85][86][87][88]
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawites

as are you m'lady

I don't think you quite understand. no matter how you look at it the op still more correct then you because objectively speaking a woman will always be more human then an embryo

>en.m

mobile posters leave

You're not a human if you lack Y chromosome, now scram. A MALE embryo is infinitely more human than a female of any age.

Calling something edge is literally not an arguement.

Want to hear something else edgy? The only thing more sure than life is death.

Mike Pence believes that abortion is murder, that's about the only point of contention. You have inferred that you believe getting an abortion is your life; therefore, to make him morally accept your position you would have to make him believe that abortion is not murder or that murder is acceptable in the case of an unborn baby.