Who had the worse record at dissident suppression? Right wing or left wing dictatorships?

Who had the worse record at dissident suppression? Right wing or left wing dictatorships?

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left/right dichotomy is pretty dumb, but if I had to pick it would be left.

NKVD and the Stasi come to mind.

At some point there is really little difference between the 2. There is also not a lot of difference between living under a christian inquisition as a protestant and being a shia in isis controlled territory. And the list goes on. Ideology doesn't change the way people behave. It's just an excuse for control.

Definitely the right. The left suppressed dissent far more effectively.

It really does not matter. All dictatorships suppress dissidents in the most brutal way.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

>The left suppressed dissent far more effectively.
It's about the scale, not how autistic they were about it

Applying the left/right dichotomy here is pretty dumb, for a number of reasons:

- Many of history's most brutal regimes routinely ignored ideological doctrine in favor of expediency, as was clearly the case for both the Soviets and the Nazis, for instance. Hence, even calling them left or right wing is questionable.

- The question also somehow implies that there is something inherent in either the left or the right that makes it more violent or oppressive, yet the most brutal aspects of these regimes often tended to be a result of other factors than ideology, for instance psychotic individuals or in response to an equally brutal opposition, rather than anything particular to their doctrine.

I'm sure there are more reasons that other posters will clarify.

Are you seriously suggesting the left didn't suppress dissidence on a greater scale?

Left wins on scale and brutality, solely thanks to Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao. But I'm with , , and , at this point it doesn't matter, they're all shits.

Greater scale is not the same as effectiveness.

Well certainly scale needs to go hand and hand with other factors in order to be effective but you aren't going to be truly effective in crushing dissident unless you lock up / execute / torture a suitably large number of people.

All depends

Autistic-ly would be the Right, Brutality would be the left.

There hasn't been a single right wing dictatorship, so obviously the left.
National Socialists, Fascists, Communists, all are far-left ideologies. The 'far-right' terminology has been pushed by Communists to differentiate them from the NS's and Fascists.

>There is also not a lot of difference between living under a christian inquisition as a protestant and being a shia in isis controlled territory.
Bullshit, and you know it. The 'terror' of inquisition has been subject to such a massive propaganda and lies, it's unbelivable. I have hard time believing that you've read any academic history on the subject.

What would a far right dictatorship look like then?

Can we just label them collectivists and be done with it?

Who the hell knows, when there hasn't been one. In fact, its completely impossible to have right wing dictatorship or at most it would be a 'dictatorship' of industries, but not of any form of government.

>Can we just label them collectivists and be done with it?
That is not so clear label either, because there was the slight difference in this matter between commies and nazos and fascists, that the latter two didn't push collectivization of agriculture, but all did 'nationalization' of the industry or state capitalism.

Of course, if you meant the other definition of 'collectivists', then sure. Richard Pipes surely seem to agree in his 'Russian Revolution'.

Dictatorship generally requires authoritarianism. Hypothetically it could exist without authoritarianism but it'd hard to conceptualize. Absolute monarchy with loose control over the individual may fit into this category.

There have been many socially conservative dictatorships, which would be described as "right wing". There are unlikely to be economically liberal dictatorships because economic liberalism often requires individual liberty which is generally incompatible with abusive dictatorship.

libertarianism, very strong state within a tiny scope, and the rest is jsut ''respect my human rights, be cool'' by the ''''''''''''''''enlightened despot''''''''''''''''''''' that the liberal of any kind fantasizes

Nazbol.
China drove over people with tanks in 89.
Milosevic broke demonstrations against him in Serbia with tanks, months before the war started.

How about they are both spooky murder machines and we should throw them in the fucking trash along with all the other spooks.

Pol Pot was a reactionary.

>there hasn't been a single right wing dictatorship
>the Inquisition dindu muffin
That revisionism gave me cancer.

Everything

>There hasn't been a single right wing dictatorship,

>the ayynquisition
Literally kill yourself.

Friendly reminder dissidents are degenerate trash and there is nothing wrong with putting them feet first into a compactor.

autism

>Rummel created the term as an extended concept to include forms of government murder that are not covered by the term genocide, and it has become accepted among other scholars.[2][3][4] According to Rummel, democide surpassed war as the leading cause of non-natural death in the 20th century.[5][6]
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Give me one (1) reason that the kind of person that resists a totalitarian regime knowing the consequences shouldn't be removed from the gene pool.

Stubbornness, foolhardiness and pigheadedness are not traits that should propagate.

How about "totalitarian regimes are shit?"

According to you.

I'm sure the average citizen of Pyongyang is much happier than the average citizen of Baltimore.

The founding fathers were criminalist scum.

You're just pulling my leg aren't you?

No.

The trash needs to be taken out and totalitarianism is perfect for it.

>b-but muh rights to traffic meth, scam welfare, dodge taxes and kill my fellow citizens over three dollar gambling debts

kys criminal scum

I mean, most forms of government have their flaws, but I'd personally rather live in a free country than a regime.

Because the last totalitarian societies that opposed the international criminal Jewish banking cartel died in 1991, all totalitarianism regimes that remain are religious or fascistic.

Ok. Still I'd rather the USA, than NK or the Third Reich.

lol you're dumb

>National Socialists, Fascists, Communists, all are far-left ideologies.
>National Socialists, Fascists
>far-left ideologies.
When will the lies ever end?

He was. He was a conservative communism. He combined the two most horrible ideologies in the world and made the nazis look like amateurs who only killed the jews for shit and giggles as a side project.

>National Socialists, Fascists, Communists, all are far-left ideologies.

>When will the lies ever end?
When the sun slips into its next life cycle and consumes the Earth within its radius. Honestly, I'm optimistic.

post yfw you realized her mom was thrown out of a helicopter for being a communist

Right wing dictatorships usually last as long as the dictator is alive. Can't really think of any successful transfer of power outside monarchies like Saudi Arabia. Maybe Syria, but it still blew up later. Or Iran but it's not ruled by one dictator, it's this weird authoritan republic with checks and balances in place.