Why isn't your favourite US president Franklin D Roosevelt?

The economy crashed hard again in 1937, but by then WW2 was coming along and "saved" the economy

Started even before Monroe lad. That shit began when Tommy Jeff was President.

Many economic historians theorize that the New Deal actually extended the Great Depression and instead it was massive military spending and soldiers coming home from the War spending their saving that pulled the U.S. from the Depression and economic data supports this. Japan is more responsible for dragging the U.S. out of the Depression than FDR is.

While the New Deal did not banish the specter of the Great Depression it would be shallow to judge the success or failure of the program purely on economic recovery because the New Deal was more than just a recovery program.

The New Deal had as much or even more of a social component as it did an economic one. The program sought to redress imbalances between rural & urban, old & young, rich & poor, as well as to redefine the conception and the role of the federal government in American's daily lives.

>making things to be blown up is great for the economy
Great Depression went on until at least the late 40s.

The Depression was prolonged when Roosevelt, who was always a moderate pragmatist rather than an ideologue, tried to cut spending after the 1936 elections, causing a double-dip. If anything, that plus the World War II boom validates the idea of deficit spending's effectiveness in fighting recession.

Also this. The New Deal's long-term effects (a strong labor movement and the peak of middle-class prosperity in global history) are more important than the short-term successes and failures.

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Why wouldn't it be?

>soldiers are employed using consumable items made by people at home, both earning wages
>also selling other countries materials on credit
>giving loans to other countries so they can rebuild

literally infinite money.

Civilians were still under rationing well into the war.

It was an investment.

The prosperity after the war only happened because all the debt accrued by those other countries that was owed to us. We still had to make a bit of a sacrifice to ensure our investment could be returned later.

Not to mention we hardly rationed at all and our cities were untouched. We paid a tiny price for the return on our investment.

>Roosevelt brought America into World War II for no reason

I know. He was such an asshole to throw Pearl Harbor into the Japanese planes.

the highest tax bracket affected literally only 1 single American at the time, John D. Rockefeller.

Jack Reed for prsident

Building huge amounts of killing machines is great for GDP.
>proof that GDP is not a useful measurement of living standards

>WW2 beat the depression guise
Only because the FDR team knew what they were doing. Look back to WW1:
>1918
>put together grand scheme to kick Germany's ass in 1919
>start mobilizing everyone
>Germany gets impatient and decides to surrender a few months early
>awkward phone calls with factory managers explaining that all those extra workers they hired aren't in fact needed, and the government won't actually be paying jack shit for anything
>recession
The reason WW2 turned out so nicely for Americans at home isn't because they threw a gorillion dollars at beating the Axis. It's because the government from day one asked "how can we use the mobilization to help our country instead of wrecking it?" The result was that instead of a Greater Depression America became comically wealthy. The whole concept of war prosperity was so counter-intuitive to people of the time that the government was prepared to deal with riots after the country demobilized.

The Russian approach was to simply refuse to 100% demobilize. Ever.

Stay bluepilled, Pearl Harbor was an inside job

> Keynesian economics are funky
> Japanese internment camps
> Truman ended WWII.

Define inside job

>>BTFO's the Great Depression
>creates shitload of jobs
>WW2 starts. Lend-Lease keeps the Allies going
>enters WW2
You need to adjust the order of those. FDR's economic nostrums did nothing to "cure" the great depression, though they served to prevent some number of people from starving, which was worth doing.

Eventually, the war economy put an end to the depression.

At the END of American involvement in WW II, TAHT'S when you think American intervention in the world STARTED?

Retard

>BTFO's the Great Depression

WW2 did that

>creates shitload of jobs

WW2 did that

>WW2 starts. Lend-Lease keeps the Allies going

Touche'

>enters WW2

Only after he carried out one of the most insidious false flag attacks in world history to justify it, and threw US citizens in prison camps to deflect to deflect blame onto the mythical "Jap spy".

>BTFO's the Japs

No, the Japs did that to themselves by having a war with us to begin with

>longest running POTUS of all time

And ruled like a dictator for most of it

>saved America

Also set America up for the rabid militarism most of his modern supporters despise.

>ruled like a dictator for most of it
What in particular do you consider 'ruling like a dictator' other than the botched 'court packing' scandal.

See

I don't want to see a greentext that uses vague & misleading language to deliberately make you draw a false comparison between FDR & Hitler, I want to hear from you in your own words what exact actions that FDR took that makes you think he 'ruled like a dictator'.

the forced internment of american citizens
the extra term

The US supporting the allies is one of the reasons it made half the world it's bitch.
It also helped reboot the nation's economy and IMO saved the world from degenerancy

Where the fuck did you come from.
>inb4 liberal faggot

>the forced internment of american citizens
Undoubtedly one of the biggest stains on FDR's record, a violation of civil rights born mostly out of racial hatred & suspicion exacerbated by Pearl Harbor & the war. While not excusing the internment at all, they affected only a tiny minority of citizens & the idea came from local authorities who impressed the need of the camps onto Roosevelt (though he ultimately still bears responsibility, it's obviously much different than Hitler's internment camps)

>the extra term
Hardly dictatorial at all. There made no change to rules in order to run for a 3rd term and he was chosen in free & fair elections.

I prefer my presidents to not spend most of their time by sucking Stalin's cock.

We also destroyed our competitors and became the worlds biggest money lender

lol, okay champ.

FDR was forced into his foreign policy you idiot, reminder that he ran on a peace platform in 1940

Need some help? Monroe doctrine was a defensive posture against European interventionism, it never involved America overreaching

No, that's when it started going full retard and leaving tinpot dictatorships and failed states in its wake. lrn2read

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>WW2 did that
The New Deal did that
>WW2 did that
The New Deal did that

>false flag
Oh, you're clearly an idiot, bye bye

>the extra term
There was only a convention against it, no rule, and a good leader staying on during wartime is a pretty smart move
>the forced internment of american citizens
Yeah, that was fucked up

Because Truman was better