Why do so many people today think the NAZIs were for German tradition?

They were about as revolutionary and anti-tradition as the soviets. They would have broke down German identity and forged the Hitler race rather than a German race. They were for most aspects, Stallinists. Even closer to North Korea today than anything even remotely considered traditional.

You think there was going to be any churches allowed in the lands taken in the east?

To use to fucking stupid term, the NAZIs were the cultural Marxists of their time.

The Nazis went about traditionalism in a different way. Maoists and Reds would point at culture and say, "It's barbaric, outdated and wrong!" Nazis would look at it and say "It used to be like this! We were kings!" And to an extent that really worked on the Germans, the Russians recognized this and tried to use the history of the Peasants Revolt to make traditional Germans support the communist rule.

If you tell people the way things used to be was great and I'll bring that back, especially if you're convincing enough they'll support you

What EXACTLY is "cultural Marxism"?

When the workers control the culture.

That thing I am told is happening by those bad people who i am told to not like because they control the world and my life and make it so I can't be successful or well adjusted.

Examining culture through the lense of Marxist critique.
Modern political use seems to describe the tactic of sowing division among members of a culture by accentuating their differences in an effort to use one of the newly created groups to support some cause.

Nazis, not NAZIs. It's not an acronym but a nickname.

Has nothing to do with actual Marxism. Its pretty dishonest that its even called that.

The only traditional thing they pushed were traditional gender roles, but I can't think of anything else. Real reactionaries and traditionalists fucking looked down on nazis and considered them a bunch of socialist plebeians and manure covered stable boys but begrudgingly had to ally with them because the alternative would be supporting foreigners who wanted to destroy Germany.

>but begrudgingly had to ally with them

They didn't have to. And then Hitler destroyed them anyways when the Freikorps and SA leaders gotarrested.

The Nobility never got the monarchy restoration either, even though Hitler could easily have done it.

There is a reason so many Hitler assassination attempts came from the army.

Well, their tradition was an imaginary Wagnerian past where everything was racially pure. They were retarded larpers.
It's really weird that German people fell for this.

Class consciousness is just that. Just like racial or sexual consciousness.
Continually pointing out differences eventually makes people feel distinct from each other. Then it is pretty easy to turn them on each other.

Because a bunch of American reactionaries memed the Nazis to mean what they wanted them to mean to create the modern white nationalist movement, which absolutely loves traditionalism.

You've got it completely wrong. In tell recently (like very recent) American White nationalism was as scientific and non-metaphysical as you would suspect. They had very little care about about European traditionalism.

>The only traditional thing they pushed were traditional gender roles

Except for the whole part about unmarried German women having sex with SS officers to produce lots of German children out of wedlock. German young women were told to disobey their parents and have lots of unprotected sex with SS men. Part of the nazi social engineering project.

Understanding differences is part of creating a movement of solidarity though. That's one of the reasons why many white liberals end up being more of a burden than anything else to the Left. White liberals make it out to be that they're for equality, but then make it solely about themselves and take up all the limelight while those fighting for racial equality and women's rights are usually ignored. Not only that, but they also get preachy, telling these folks how they ought to act in order to be heard.

Having people become conscious of all of the issues creates a more stable and coherent movement. The Occupy Wall Street movement failed because it lost its focus and people didn't connect the dots. The Lefties have learned that you have to educate their kind about it all, showing the connections between them all, and drawing upon that pool of knowledge to understand the system on a deeper level while avoiding Occupy's pitfalls.

Hence why movements like Intersectional Feminism are catching steam nowadays. For the most part, white feminists focused solely upon issues that they faced while being completely oblivious to the stigmas and issues that black women faced. The Left has stepped up its inclusiveness and I don't think that detracts from their overall sentiment or attitude about the current system.

I understand the perceived utility that tactic has, but the main issue with it is that as soon as you begin to implement it, you are not only solidifying your 'suppressed' group, but inadvertently also solidifying your 'suppressor' group against them and they are generally in a much better position to take advantage of the conflict.

You can not create a distinct 'poor', 'black', 'female', or 'gay' identity without creating a 'rich', 'white', 'male', or 'straight' oppositional identity as a consequence.

white privilege, SJW stuff etc

Social Marxism is a better term

It's largely due to somewhat mixing all the supposedly non "respectable" ideologies together. The people that sperg the most about nazis are often the same that do on conservatism, libertarianism and other very different ideologies. Same reason you could find hordes of people protesting against people as widely different as De Gaulle, Nixon, Papadopoulos, Reagan, Ceausescu, Salazar and lately Trump and linking all of them to Nazis.

To a large group if not most normies, nazism doesn't refer to the actual ideology of historical nazis but is a symbol of "nauseating" opinions. It's not a mystery why postmodern lefties try to link so anti-tradition an ideology to traditionalists, grasping at straws like their relative liking for German renaissance architecture.

Ain't nazi sex fantasies awesome.

Stupid Buzzword by people who want to try and make it out that the Frankfurt school was at all relevant. In reality it is run of the mill liberalism that is to blame for this retarded society. Maoists are partially to blame too. I suspect the reason this term was used was because it was coined by ex-libertarian types who still had warm fuzzy feelings about terms like "classically liberal". It is totally a-historical

>You think there was going to be any churches allowed in the lands taken in the east?
But they reopened the Churches in the East

Modern liberals and globalists are spiritual successor of Nazis, that's right.

But you are wrong about Stalin, he was sincere traditionalist. Even many emigrant considered him the savior of Russia from revolutionary communism. He also made peace with the Orthodox Church for their support during the war.

Stalin is a lot more complicated than the liberal or run of the mill rightist depictions would lead you to believe. I'm yet to find a good book on him

Literally the only time I ever hear the term used is by its detractors.