Veeky Forums ARKPOOL: APPROACHING VICTORY THREAD

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

We're only 40,000 Ark away now. We've almost done it boys; ready the champagne. I'm proud of all of you and we're all going to make it. I made a new thread since our boy ⋐ӎ⋑ !MagnetW3NU went to sleep.

What is going on?
If you don't already know, ARK is one of the unique cryptos to use DPoS which is Delegated Proof of Stake, In the case of Ark it works like this:
in the Ark world there are only 51 machines that create new Ark called delegates
who these top 51 delegates are is changing all the time
because people vote for who they want to be a delegate
there are a bunch of delegates (anyone can register to become a delegate)
people vote for these delegates with how much money is in their wallet
here's where it gets dank as hell
anyone can unvote at anytime and change to another delegate
delegates often pool their Ark earnings with the voters
yes you can get paid with Ark by voting for delegates
Veeky Forums has created their own delegate with 100% payout for the first 50 days of forging ARK
When we hit 500K some anons shifted gear into maximum over FUD
This how you know we're becoming powerful

PERSPECTIVE: More than $500,000 of Ark has been raised by Veeky Forumsnessmen since the night of June 6th.
THE MISSION: GET THE BIZ DELEGATE TO A TOP 51 POSITION SO WE ALL GET PAID.
Veeky Forums Ark PoolDelegate Discord: discord.gg/ZyM6FZy

if you want more information check these links
HOW 2 VOTE: blog.ark.io/how-to-vote-or-un-vote-an-ark-delegate-and-how-does-it-all-work-819c5439da68
biz Proposal: forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate
Delegated PoS: blog.ark.io/dpos-and-ark-voting-explained-68596a171ca1
Whitepaper: ark.io/whitepaper/
Official Ark Devs/community Slack: ark.io/join-ark-slack/
Current delegate rank standings: arknode.net/VoteReport.txt
First three bizarkpool threads:
archive.is/Cwhch
archive.is/51wz3
archive.is/CXt4g

Previous thread veekyforums.com/thread/2381276/business

Other urls found in this thread:

forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate
arknode.net/VoteReport.txt
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FGo3FkC3uSWXGHatPQyny2brMWjAIJsHFCR-Lhkl_m0/edit#gid=0
discord.gg/ZyM6FZy
ark.io/
youtube.com/watch?v=3Bu39n9IorA&t=487s
youtube.com/watch?v=LCrAQzQbRlE
blog.ark.io/dpos-and-ark-voting-explained-68596a171ca1
youtu.be/JAEDQwMtf4o
youtube.com/watch?v=2Hr7Mszq9TA
veekyforums.com/thread/2386102/business
t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAraxgDPiohBjI6y3A
explorer.ark.io/address/AbYkuaFck1YucCXk6TtniSB9SsbUdTYVtv
explorer.ark.io/delegateMonitor
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FGo3FkC3uSWXGHatPQyny2brMWjAIJsHFCR-Lhkl_m0/edit

Techpill
Techpill

Thanks user you are doing Keks work here.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Seems like a scam.

What happens if the delegate dies in a car crash?

Too many unknown variables.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Your ark stays in your wallet, so if you stop getting payouts you can always switch your vote.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

What happens if the delegate dies in a car crash?

Then you vote for someone else and earn stakes from them. That's the best part, if you ever get fucked by a delegate you can just change your vote for 1 Ark.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Then you just vote for another one. You aren't hard locked into a vote and and revoke it for 1 ARK and revote for anyone else for another 1 ARK.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I have 200 ark.

If I add more do I get more stake?

Illusionz
Illusionz

2 arks, costs 1 ark to unvote.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

We jump to a different pool. You lose 3 ark 1 from first vote for biz 1 from unvoting and 1 more for voting again...

Booteefool
Booteefool

yep

MPmaster
MPmaster

You won't have to revote the wallet adjusts the more you add

King_Martha
King_Martha

Then you vote for another delegate. You're not giving him your ARK. Also, it takes 90 cents to vote. I don't really give a shit if the biz delegate dies.

Soft_member
Soft_member

had issues creating an account in the earlier thread. fixed by downloading v.1.2.1!

girlDog
girlDog

Why join the biz crew? Why not join one of the top 5?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

nice!

takes2long
takes2long

We have 100% payout the first week, then 90% which is WAY more than the others.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Yes, each of our payouts will be proportional to the total payout, at the same ratio of our personal wallet to the total ark held by biz pool members.

massdebater
massdebater

You get more stakes by voting for a pool with less Ark. You'd get less than half of what you would from the biz group if you voted for the top 10 delegates.

idontknow
idontknow

forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate

hairygrape
hairygrape

But thats only if biz breaks into the top 51, right?

Techpill
Techpill

forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate
we raised to 52 in a couple of days
arknode.net/VoteReport.txt

Methnerd
Methnerd

if

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

A few reasons
1.Our payout will be 100%, the best in the top 5 is only 90% and most are not even that much.
2.Payout is decided by how much of a share you have of votes voting for that node. By joining one with over a million votes your share will obviously be less.
3.All of the top 51 forge at the same rate, it cycles.
4.We are pretty fucking close to being in the top 51 right now so if you wait it'll end up costing you as you'd have to pay to unvote and revote.
5.Its just nice to have a Veeky Forums node as one of the top 51 in my opinion.

Skullbone
Skullbone

ALMOST THERE

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

not buying NGR

Enjoy your bags

Evilember
Evilember

if you wait it'll end up costing you as you'd have to pay to unvote and revote.
Wow a whole 2 dollars. WGAF.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

How big are the expected payouts?
Let's say I have... 100 ARKs invested.

DeathDog
DeathDog

FUDder alert.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

2 dollars is 2 dollars, I'm not the type to just take a lighter out and set money on fire even if it is only a couple bucks.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

bbcucks right now

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Fuck yeah this is better

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

more than what you would get from not staking aka voting for a top 51 delegate.
forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Yeah you've confirmed my suspicions.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

around 1 ark a month

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Hey if wasting money is what you're into feel free, I won't stop you.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Transferring ARK to my wallet now....... I'm coming aboard, boys!

girlDog
girlDog

He is just a FUDder from the bbcuckclub that we are about to pass. They dont realize they keep bumping our thread so more people read it. The whole time our votes keep going up.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Heading off to bed. Good luck to us and nice work! WE ALMOST AT 51! I am off to beddd gotta wake up for some beach time tomorrow. LATERZ!

cum2soon
cum2soon

The formuoli is (422(<your Ark>/<total Ark in the biz pool>))

You can check the total Ark in the biz pool here:
arknode.net/VoteReport.txt

takes2long
takes2long

Huh?

Inmate
Inmate

Alright, you guys convinced me.
Putting some in.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

bittrex is fucking lame. Why cant I do a market buy? This limit buy shit is taking too long.

Methnerd
Methnerd

I should also have added that that is for the daily payout.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I saw the votes go up. Nice choice my friend.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I am trying to buy ARK on Bittrex but am very confused by this.

I will try placing a limit order at the last price, but my orders never get filled.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

GOOD TO HEAR!!

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Bro I'm having the same problem

What a joke of an exchange

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

We're only 100% the first 50 days.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

The bots are not letting you buy at the set price just refresh and try again.

Lunatick
Lunatick

If you want to immediately buy you need to buy at the current limit sell price. You are putting in what price you will buy at but that doesn't guarantee someone will sell you at that price, particularly with bots working that will automatically outbid you.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

tfw FUDers bump your own threads that will be their demise

King_Martha
King_Martha

I think he meant that getting another 40k ARK or more is a foregone conclusion at this point.

girlDog
girlDog

Yeah, I should have been more clear about that. We'd still have the highest payout rate and likely the highest payout due to having a smaller pool than the other 90% ones though.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

lol its the stupid little bitch from the last thread.

Post how much you've staked, bitch

(watch, the little bitch wont. hes a broke little nothing)

5mileys
5mileys

How often are the payouts? And do they go directly into our ARK wallets?

cum2soon
cum2soon

the desktop application is still fucky. isn't registering deposited ark when blockchain has already confirmed it. can't add delegates either.
running windows 10
can't invest unless this issue is fixed...

w8t4u
w8t4u

FUDers

wtf? I am trying to BUY ARK, do you understand that? I just want my orders filled on Bittrex but its not happening

Inmate
Inmate

No worries, just keeping everything on the up and up.

idontknow
idontknow

first one will be after the first day forging, after that weekly, yes they'll go directly into wallets.

likme
likme

weekly (pay less in fees) and yes

hairygrape
hairygrape

It is a percentage based on how much ark you have in your wallet you voted with. Here is a spreadsheet of the current delegates so you can get an idea.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FGo3FkC3uSWXGHatPQyny2brMWjAIJsHFCR-Lhkl_m0/edit#gid=0

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

He's really stupid.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Weekly, and yes.

Techpill
Techpill

windows 10
I think this might be the problem, I remember someone in one of the early threads saying that it was working fine on a windows 7 computer he had but for some reason not on a windows 10.

Methshot
Methshot

Buy it at ask price instead of bidding?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

That wasn't me, I actually just now did it.
It says the transaction went through, so if we get into top 51 we'll start seeing some returns?
So right now if we send in 1 ark, we'll get back 1 ark every once and awhile. Even if this coin soras, and it becomes worth $100 a coin, we'll still be getting 1 ark?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Oh and yes they go directly into your wallet.

Snarelure
Snarelure

cancel and set a higher price.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Press the refresh circle. If that don't work click the cloud in the top right hand corner and click on the http link it should change the peer.

Emberburn
Emberburn

lol fucking idiot. a

Firespawn
Firespawn

this just makes the bot run it up higher, either buy at sell price or just leave the buy there for a few hours and hope it fills.

Flameblow
Flameblow

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WebTool
WebTool

When.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Yes once we get into the top 51, which will be soon. We will see returns. You can see how close we are getting by all the people above us coming here and trying to start hate. I assume we would get less over time the more people start staking but I am not sure. If people keep in on exchanges there wont be as many people staking. Hard to say on that part.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Ok finally got my ARK. But I'm still not convinced to put in in your little club.

Convince me.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

yep, your ROI is based in ARK.

DeathDog
DeathDog

thanks guys, im in

these were just test buys, I might open a big position soon

TechHater
TechHater

?
51 | bbclubark | 0.54 | 685,808 | 5 |
===================================================================
| 52 | biz | 0.51 | 651,432 | 450

eGremlin
eGremlin

You don't have to, but it's free money

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

hes probably a bbcuck too

FastChef
FastChef

Only 12% annually, right? I mean, thats ok I guess. But I've been getting 10% gainz everyday just holding eth.

JunkTop
JunkTop

vote quarkpool, they have a decent payout rate and we could stop listening to your high maintenance ass.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate
also were we are at currently
arknode.net/VoteReport.txt
Discord for more questions
discord.gg/ZyM6FZy

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Yeah I went on the discord and it's all college kids talking about getting shoved into lockers and working in fast food.

Nojokur
Nojokur

man, its not really viable with under 1000 ark. i had better get accumulating

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

college kids that raised 650k + ark to get money for our community...and I am not a kid fyi but I am tired so I am going to bed.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

What's the number on the far right?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Tell me how many ARK I'll get per week if I stake 200

Spamalot
Spamalot

I'm in for 240 ARK!!

takes2long
takes2long

Number of people voting for that node so while bbclubark has 5 whales we've got 449 people

idontknow
idontknow

Fine choice sir.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

That's about 1 Ark a week. Better than nothing though, especially if Ark goes to ETH levels

TreeEater
TreeEater

That's what I thought. P dope.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Total members in the pool.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

1 ark every 2 weeks is probably closer

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

The best bet is to keep this coin for long term guys you need continue to add to your wallet to make more. This is a long term coin not a PnD and the project is amazing!
ark.io/

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

doesn't work on windows 7 either...
clicked on cloud/peer but doesn't refresh. ark also isn't working on my backup computer. could it have something to do with my modem/network?

Illusionz
Illusionz

did you create a wallet? save the passphrase? make sure to back it up!

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

He's tried all that, the account won't create, I'm stumped.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I really want to, but all my coins but ETH are in the tank right now so I'm not buying more yet

I don't know how much longer Ark can stay at this low a price though

girlDog
girlDog

Have you tried reaching out to Ark via their slack channel?

farquit
farquit

Waste of time

Bidwell
Bidwell

If you don't think that ARK is a good longterm buy its a waste of time, if you think that it is then this is additional gains on your holdings.

likme
likme

just hodl I am pretty sure almost everyone is holding bags atm stay strong

Techpill
Techpill

Only ETH matters now

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Looks like the bbcucks just upped their vote pool a little bit. Damn they really are scared. I smell blood in the water boys.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

youtube.com/watch?v=3Bu39n9IorA&t=487s
for more info on coin
youtube.com/watch?v=LCrAQzQbRlE

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Yepp, they're fatass whales who don't want to lose their spot.

likme
likme

My prediction is that they'll keep a spot in the top 51 and someone else will end up being the one kicked out.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Fine by me. That probably means they are having to buy more ARK right now to stay in. Which makes the price of ARK go up, and that is good for all of us. Either way, we are going to make it user.

FastChef
FastChef

Yeah, just saying not to get discouraged if they keep buying more, odds are that someone in 40-50 will fall, they're all bunched really close together.

Nojokur
Nojokur

alright boys, just added my 140 Ark. It's not much but im a poorfag.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Nicely done user. Here's hoping you're worth $14,000 next year.

Techpill
Techpill

I'm so glad I didn't sell my 3k ARK today during the crash. I have great hope for this coin. :) I believe by the end of the year this coin will be worth at least $10.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

This is a very long hold for sure. Whales will continue to try and keep the price down so they can accumulate. Keep calm and HODL on.

King_Martha
King_Martha

All this is great but you never give the delegates name, where do I point my 6k ARK?

viagrandad
viagrandad

biz

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

I got almost 4k ARK I'd like to join however ist there like a calculator like the spreadsheet or so where you can see how much you'd earn? Will we earn less because there are so many or is it irrelevant?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

It is based on the percentage you carry compared to other voters in the same delegate pool. So it constantly changes. Here is a spreadsheet to give you an idea. The first 50 days we will have a 100% profit share then down to 90% aftert that so we will be making a better return than anyone else currently.

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FGo3FkC3uSWXGHatPQyny2brMWjAIJsHFCR-Lhkl_m0/edit#gid=0

Bidwell
Bidwell

awesome we are so close.

supporting with 1600 ark

Inmate
Inmate

See

likme
likme

how much of your portfolio you got in ark? I read a lot about other projects but I feel like I dont really want to take risks with them and lessen the amount of arks that I have. I feel like this is one of the projects that have most potential to really become a top coin in this market. On top of that it is really rewarding to just hold long with the delegate system. I think I will be holding this for atleast 2 years keeping the coins in my wallet adding interest and possibly trying to get in even more ark from paycheck to paycheck.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Alright I had ARK before our biz delegate and I just voted for one of the Spreadsheet Guys to test it out and as soon as I get my payment (hopefully today) I'll unvote and go on biz

farquit
farquit

Sent :^)

iluvmen
iluvmen

I'm 50% ETH, 40% ARK and 10% other coins

I bought a shitton of ETH at $10 and put quite a bit of it into Ark 2 weeks ago. I have a lot of faith in the project and the devs.

Methshot
Methshot

Too much tbqhwyf
I'm missing out on many short term gains. It also doesn't help that I'm poor

Flameblow
Flameblow

put 2500 more in

FastChef
FastChef

we are almost in identical situations.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Keep it up \biz\nessmen we only need about 20k more or so to grab that 51 spot. As long as the bbcucks dont add anymore ARK.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

do i need to revote if im adding onto the amount in wallet when initially voting

Illusionz
Illusionz

nope

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

nvm i think it showed up plus some others contributions, we are 7k away now

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

The delegate proposal page says that the Payout will be done weekly but is there a minimum payout? Most of as are very small owners of ark compared to the other groups as our voter count is the highest and with 1k ark you are expecting to get a little more than 1 ark per week. 0.1 transaction fee of that is close to 10% of the whole payout which is kind of big. Should there be a minimum payout to get the proportion of the transaction fee/pay out smaller? This would reward people to really keep their coins in the wallets.

Methnerd
Methnerd

stupid question here, is blockfolio doing the trading or is it more like a tracker where you have to enter your trades by yourself?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

It doesn't do actual trading, it's just to keep track

StonedTime
StonedTime

tracker

girlDog
girlDog

I havent seen the bizbro delegate say what the minimum payment would be. I know he is willing to do whatever biz wants. I think a minium for 1 ARK on a weekly payout should be ok, it can always be changed.

takes2long
takes2long

nail-biting.gif

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

So close!

farquit
farquit

4k MORE. LETS GO.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

tfw 130 ark
i will probs get like 10 sats a year

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

just voted with about 700.. is it too small to make any real gain

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Any gain is good enough user!

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I will add 1k once my banks clears this fucking shit

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

although I'm awaiting returns from another one to switch to biz I voted him now with half my ARKs (roughly 2k) about 5 secs ago so we should be 51 in a few minutes

whereismyname
whereismyname

put in another 1300 now . bring a wad of hundreds and grandma's valium. its going down tonight

Supergrass
Supergrass

Lmao, I have 20 so no worries

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Wait, so if I put 1000 dollars in and we get 51, I get 2000 dollars?

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Howd you come up with that?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

How does it feel know you put us over into 51 territory, boys?

No, what the fuck.

Spamalot
Spamalot

100% payout
Am I reading this wrong?

farquit
farquit

100% payout of the amount of ark the biz delegate forges (like mining)

cum2soon
cum2soon

distributed over every voter proportionally

w8t4u
w8t4u

Can you explain this to an Ark retard newbie?

How much has he forged?

massdebater
massdebater

Yes. I did the math with 20 ARK. Id get 0.1 daily. So do the math how much ARK you hodl in your wallet since i dont remember the formula.

idontknow
idontknow

Nothing yet because we arnt in the top 51 delegates yet.

blog.ark.io/dpos-and-ark-voting-explained-68596a171ca1

forum.ark.io/topic/341/100-payout-for-first-50-days-biz-sharepool-delegate

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Less than 2k to go.

StonedTime
StonedTime

So I'm looking at adding 5k right now. What will that do?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Make everyone love you

FastChef
FastChef

we'll make it

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

it will deliver us to the promised land user

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

5k incoming anons

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

You would put us in into the money making zone and we will love you forever. May Kek bless you.

massdebater
massdebater

You are officially /ourguy/

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Go man, go!

DeathDog
DeathDog

tfw gonna be making .25 ark a day just by doing nothing now
frick yeah

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

refresh

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

arknode.net sees a spam of F5 on their votereport.txt page, thinks they're being ddosed

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

tfw gonna be making .7 arc a month by doing nothing
Better than nothing. If I weren't a poorfag I'd dump a tad more into it to get that at least ~1 arc a month.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

This must be how rich people feel.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Now imagine making that much ETH a day.

farquit
farquit

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA

viagrandad
viagrandad

joined with 950 ark

5mileys
5mileys

WE DID IT BOYS. THOSE BBKEKS THAT TRIED TO FUD OUR THREADS ONLY MADE US MORE POWERFUL. WE ARE LEGION.

cum2soon
cum2soon

WE'RE #51

w8t4u
w8t4u

whats the formula again?

hairygrape
hairygrape

FUGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

BBKEK ON SUICIDE WATCH

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

now we just hope some whales dont jump ship too fast.. with 100% for 50 days and 90% for a long time we will be the most profitable pool by far and in a bad scenario we will get 1m+ votes in the next few hours making all our share way smaller.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Let's keep clawing more ARK into our wallets, I'd like us snugly burrowed into the 800k range with the rest of the herd.

SniperGod
SniperGod

We made it

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

WE FUCKING DID IT

MFW Veeky Forums RAISED SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND AMERICAN DOLLARS IN LESS THAN 6 DAYS

THREAD THEME: youtu.be/JAEDQwMtf4o

I love you guys, we're all going to make it. Imagine if Ark reaches $10 a coin, or even Ethereum levels if you want to dream.

DeathDog
DeathDog

THREAD THEME
youtube.com/watch?v=2Hr7Mszq9TA

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

You're welcome boys. So my 20k wallet cost me just 3 ark to sign up with biz? And I can get it back?

I'm made 300k last month in cryptos. So give info. I will help.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

next Mission Top 10!

Illusionz
Illusionz

Hopefully this is only the beginning. Good work everyone.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Delivered

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

yes send some to my wallet

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

With 20k ark you'd be paying off that 3 ark in less than a day

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

lost my passphrase
all ark is stuck in the wallet for forever

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

cum2soon
cum2soon

If only. We'll see what ARK does in the future, but I'm new to this and have no expectations thereby avoiding disappointment.

Made a looping gif of Fry eating cereal off his head. Pic related.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

New thread bros.

veekyforums.com/thread/2386102/business

hairygrape
hairygrape

how much

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

You'll make that back from staking easily. The payout comes once a week though, so we can get more (less transaction fees)

You have 20k, so that means you'll be getting about 11.7 Ark a day passively at the current pool amount.

Methnerd
Methnerd

I just haven't staked before. But think I get it.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Happened to me. Twice.

mfw when i lost nearly 4k ARK 29k and 32k sat

eGremlin
eGremlin

422*(<total Ark in your wallet>/<total Ark in the biz pool>) = your daily Ark gains

happy_sad
happy_sad

We fucking did it Ark bros! See you guys at the top!

JunkTop
JunkTop

Keep adding as you can. We can slip out from 51 just as fast. We need to get up to at least 40.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Lol thanks jOO

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

2.3 ark a month..

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

alright arkfags i just bought in, casting my vote in a few mins. i can get behind a future like this, what we're doing

SniperGod
SniperGod

a general biz group investment thing would be a fun precedent to set.

Supergrass
Supergrass

We get 90% of 422 ARK per day, so 379.8 ARK shared between all the voters.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

which retard made it 100% my gains have halved in 1 hour

TreeEater
TreeEater

thats almost as twice as much as from any other pool
how?

Emberburn
Emberburn

about to add 2k
were still in the top 51 right??

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

WE'RE HOLDING 20th [email protected]

GOOD JOB ANONS

Inmate
Inmate

WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED.

WE'RE 20TH!

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

What do you mean?

( 20k / 900k ) * 422 = 9.37 per day
after 50 days you'll have made 464.7 Ark, but thats assuming the pool stays at 900k

Soft_member
Soft_member

If i add more ark to my wallet will it automatically update? Already voted 3 days ago.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

We get 90% of 422 ARK per day so it is roughly 380 ARK shared

StonedTime
StonedTime

Yes

Illusionz
Illusionz

100% for fiddy days tho

5mileys
5mileys

17th now. Did a whale jump aboard?
I don't have much crypto, and I can't dump in a lot to re-up my gains. We can't stop other whales from hopping aboard and taking the lionshare of generated ark can we?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Any news about this bot whale now that we've reached top 20 ?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I added an extra 100, wish I could help with more but i'm a poorfag

King_Martha
King_Martha

There are some big boys in our pool now, and I doubt they're from Veeky Forums

w8t4u
w8t4u

added about 3k glad to be part of this even if i'm not really from Veeky Forums

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

This is why we voted biz

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Who would want a centralized shitcoin?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Must have. bbcuck pool had 6 voters. They're probably salty that they're not getting payouts anymore, and we have the highest rate.

King_Martha
King_Martha

I was wondering how much I'll get back from my vote ? Well does it even depend of how much I voted for ? Or just how many I have in my wallet ?

Like I voted only one ARK just to show support, and have 24 ARK in my wallet, how much can I expect (if the coin stays at around 0.9€ / 1€) considering I'm adding 50 ARK at the end of the month ?

TreeEater
TreeEater

?

Evilember
Evilember

however much is in your wallet determines your share no matter when you cast your vote, as long as the wallet in question is the same address

DeathDog
DeathDog

Elaborate and substantiate your claims.

Bidwell
Bidwell

We went from 58 to 52 in less than a week. This is awesome my dudes. Glad to see we came together on this.

Playboyize
Playboyize

ARK will be the official Veeky Forums coin.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Or GTFO

SniperGod
SniperGod

WE MAKING MONEY BIZ!!!

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

wake up
refresh vote page
Veeky Forums isn't in 52n, or 51st, or 50th, or anywhere in that range I'm looking
wtf wtf wtf did it fall apart
ctrl+f, we're number 20th
Damn, can't believe we pulled this shit off in less than five days.

Booteefool
Booteefool

biz is actually 99% funded by 3 whales, rest being small-time holders to make it look like it's not. The whales viciously attack anyone in the discord or in the thread who want any information about ark before putting thier money in it, and shame people who "don't buy enough". It's unlikely that anyone will see a payout past the first few except the whales.

Evilember
Evilember

Sounds like bollocks to me

Supergrass
Supergrass

You realize that you can look at the balances of the addresses in the block explorer so people can easily see through this bullshit right?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Read the previous thread and closely examine the voter addresses if you don't believe it.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Hello fellow ARKbros,

We have successfully got enough votes to get a node in the first week. I'm very impressed.

We now face a new problem of Whale's dominating the share of ARK in the pool. If these whale's are Veeky Forumsraeli's than that's great glad we got some bros on the team. But if it's (((whales))) we should try and duck them. We can do this as we continue to accumulate, and ARKserverbro can set up diferent nodes, that we can all vote for and the whales will be left behind, We might be able to play a cat and mouse game, but we should continue to theorize and strategize for the ways of getting the most gains for /us/

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Yeah I was not expecting this. Kind of throws a wrench in our plan. Wont he be stealing all our dosh?

cum2soon
cum2soon

There's something else quite strange in the votes: many of the voters show transactions that go like this.
- feed wallet from bittrex
- vote
- send all the ark left over to another wallet
- that wallet also votes
Including but not limited to some accounts being used to receive lots of ark just sending them to different addresses, likely to split-vote.

RumChicken
RumChicken

What exactly do you perceive the benefit of this to be? More voters is not helpful, the only thing it does is lose them ark.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Basically I think you're just a faggot that doubted and is now trying to rationalize your way out of being wrong.
t. 3600 ark holder in pool

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Pay (((whales))) at a lower rate?

Soft_member
Soft_member

To make it look like there are many voters when there are actually much fewer. For example, maybe there are about 100-150 legitimate voters, but it appears there are over 500. This plays into the advertisement that this is the "anthill delegate made up of mostly small holders" even though that isn't true.
The people doing that are probably the same whales that fund the great majority of the delegate.

Methshot
Methshot

Can't do that. There are probably a few legit heavy-baggers who came in because they believed in the Veeky Forumsraeli cause.

Snarelure
Snarelure

There is absolutely no incentive in doing this. If three people were really the ones behind this node as you claim the most financially beneficial move for them would have been to not advertise a single bit, take their spot in the top 51, not have a public group, and receive all forgings for themselves. Not offer 100% to everyone who wants in as this shoots themselves in the foot when it comes to earnings.

Firespawn
Firespawn

500 voters
Isn't true
What?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

100% for first 50 days and 90% thereafter*

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

How is losing 0.0000001% profit going to shoot them in the foot when it can be used as an advertisement platform to provide future security against one of them leaving which would bring the whole thing down?

5mileys
5mileys

If they're only losing .0000001% then its rather obvious that they are getting no security from one of them leaving as they still have 99.999999% of the voting weight. Do you even think about what you're typing before you complete your post?

takes2long
takes2long

ark is at 0.00032683
right now.
Should I buy in?
I just jumped out of DGB

TreeEater
TreeEater

I nearly sent my ARK to the biz address lol

SniperWish
SniperWish

Only 100-150 have money in the account, and the others just passed around a pool of ark to vote and then into the next account.
Additionally, of the 100-150, many are split addresses from whales. If you remove small-time holders, you're left with a handful of addresses each whaly in their own right and most likely from the same few people.

JunkTop
JunkTop

I don't see any advantage of Ark's system over Decred.

Decred has, by far, the best voting system in any coin I have seen yet (and I've been in Bitcoin since it was below $2)

My bet is on Decred to be the successor of Bitcoin actually.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Any way we can differentiate between them?

takes2long
takes2long

whitelist them based on whether they put in before today, though really node owner's reputation would be shit in the ark community since he did advertise it on their forum as well because people were worried we wouldn't get enough on our own. Which is yet another hole in the retarded theory that this is all just a couple whales.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I guess our reputation is worth more than that. We shouldn't do anything too radical without discussing it with the Ark forum first and for now I think we should simply sit back and look how it develops.

What is the highest share another delegate offers? Perhaps we could establish a still quite high, but lower rate for new voters?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Should I buy ark right now or no?

JunkTop
JunkTop

You do realize you can just check the addresses and the voters, right?

Illusionz
Illusionz

wait for another dip. got pretty low yesterday

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Veeky Forums Telegram link for discussing Ark:
t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAraxgDPiohBjI6y3A

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Yes, do you? Because your 99% claim is quite clearly bullshit.

King_Martha
King_Martha

guys I got a watch-only address called biz, can I delete that

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

highest share offered by other nodes is 90%.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I see you're one of the whales. Sorry for wasting your time in trying to educate you on what you're doing with the delegate.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

3.6k is a whale
Sorry, I didn't realize you were poor.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Ours is also 90% after the first 50 days (i.e. after 4 payouts).

Evilember
Evilember

Sell us.

eGremlin
eGremlin

50/7=4

Small problem with your math, buddy.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

3.6k per address, 13 addresses isn't a whale

Supergrass
Supergrass

What do you mean? I don't see a problem here. After all we have over 500 legitimate voters and no whales.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

hillary doesnt care about cryoto

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Why does everyone have to fight, we are all making money, big or small.
Why can't we all be happy we are making money for doing nothing?

takes2long
takes2long

Because the delegate and his two cronies started attacking voters and potential voters for daring to ask what ark was and how it worked before investing money into it.

idontknow
idontknow

Because somebody's an asshole that's trying to take away from the accomplishment just because he doubted from the beginning.
Here's my single address you fucker. The one ark I sent out was a tip to a guy who made a cool sketch.
explorer.ark.io/address/AbYkuaFck1YucCXk6TtniSB9SsbUdTYVtv

Methnerd
Methnerd

The fact is the delegate doesn't need to give anyone any of the money that is forged. The delegate can keep all the money or split among himself and whoever is assisting (e.g. whales) while the rest get nothing. Sure, if that happens, everyone can unvote. But the delegate can delay this by saying it's a software issue and it'll be resolved soon, and convince enough people long enough to attain his objective.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Agreed. Doesn't seem to be a problem.
A more important issue, however - how do we go on to shill Ark to new heights?

Firespawn
Firespawn

You will have to talk to Magnet about that, he is the one who started this and i'm sure he will deal with the problem.

StonedTime
StonedTime

That's precisely the problem: magnet is the prime instigator in this. See the last thread.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

This is the real issue that should be addressed.

girlDog
girlDog

Delay

You can unvote from your own ARK client. Magnet can't stop you.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

When's the best time to buy this?

idontknow
idontknow

Can someone please tell me to buy in now or wait for another dip?

RumChicken
RumChicken

Last night I was thinking it'd dip below 30k again after it rebounded but hasn't so far. Noone can predict the price exactly unfortunately.

JunkTop
JunkTop

But are you truly ready to lose your payout by unvoting before the totally real software issues are resolved?

Spamalot
Spamalot

Are you a retard?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Unlike you, I'm not.

Methnerd
Methnerd

No, I'm pretty sure you are. Or somebody from another pool. You lost. Deal with it.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Someone from another pool. Definitely.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

50 days is seven weeks, or seven payouts, not counting the day one payout as evidence of good faith. 7*7=49+1=50.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I'm saying that we will never see 7 payouts for the same reason biz is whale infested and there aren't anywhere near 500 legit votes.

askme
askme

Only the faithful need board the ARK.

Firespawn
Firespawn

So how much do you guys think Ark will be worth eventually? I bought 1770 Ark when it was 50 cents, bought an additional 1000 when it was 97 cents.

TechHater
TechHater

I don't understand what danger having any big "whales" is in someone's delegate pool. Can someone explain why this is a bad thing or why it matters so long as it bumped us up past 51?

JunkTop
JunkTop

I want transparency! If you have any complaint or question, ask!
ask question, point out ark should generally be explained before
OMG OMG TROLL SHILL HODL DON'T DOUBT PUT MORE MONEY BUY BUY BUY TIME TO ANNOUNCE ON THE PUBLIC CHANNEL THAT WE'RE UNDER ATTACK
rly mks u thk

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

$5 by September, $10 by January. Perood of stagnation, then out of the known universe.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

dont let these faggot bots scare you when we hit $100 all you weak hands will kys

farquit
farquit

We don't get any more payments when we're no longer in the top 51, meaning if one of the whales changes pool it's over. A separate issue that is not directly related is that payments are handled completely by the delegate, thus the delegate can do whatever he wants with payment policy. This means that if the whales are running with the delegate for a kind of scam, the delegate is free to pay only the whales, for example.

viagrandad
viagrandad

When does the voting end? When is the 1st payout?

askme
askme

You idiots will never see seven payouts
"Only the faithful need board the ARK"
WHY AREN'T YOU ANSWERING ME HURR HURR REEEEEEEEEEEE

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

End of the day today, as I understand it.

Methshot
Methshot

strawmanning this hard
not even addressing any point
butthurt much, whale?

Firespawn
Firespawn

we about to take off???

SniperGod
SniperGod

Which? The end of voting or the 1st payout?
How many hours do I have left?

TechHater
TechHater

There is no end to the voting.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

And if it happens once, everyone jumps ship. Are you fucking stupid?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Are you a bot?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

When is the 1st payout?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Jesus Christ...

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Should be today. As for the specific time, I don't know.

WebTool
WebTool

I've been talking to a shillbot all this time
wew

DeathDog
DeathDog

im on est time so i will pay you all in celebration this evening. from then on every week is pay day. be aware some of the voter's wallets are so small that the script will not be able to split a measly few hundred ark in a way that will be able to pay all 500 voters, but we should have enough ark on a weekly basis to be able to pay the small voters something too. cant believe we made it up so high.

check it out we're 17!
explorer.ark.io/delegateMonitor

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

And now we know why there are 500 voters: to give an excuse for when only the whales get paid. "it doesn't split small enough!", top kek.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

... so not everyone will be paid just because their wallet is too small?
Say I want to get paid 1 Ark, what size should my wallet be?

likme
likme

Mags, don't fuck us on this.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Ok, that helps. Thank you. So basically the biggest risk is a whale pulls out and knocks us off the top 51, but also the owner of this delegate account could simply not pay us, which means we'll all just drop him and move to someone else anyway so there's no real incentive to do that.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

what are transfer fees?
If someone has say 20 ark in their wallet their share would be less than .1 ark which is less than the transfer fee and obviously should not be sent. If you were at all capable of basic mathematics you'd understand this already.
Around 3k or so to be paid 1 ark per day. The spreadsheet and formula has been posted over and over again in every thread.

Emberfire
Emberfire

How much Ark do you have in this?

SniperWish
SniperWish

904 and change.

TechHater
TechHater

Am I late to the party?
tfw long confirmations

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

One other question, if your reward is smaller than the minimum payment amount, say you're earning 0.1 ARK per week, but the minimum payout is 1 ARK, do you just not get anything or does it accumulate week over week until you reach the minimum?

Like, is there a risk to be in this and just flat out not get anything for not meeting a minimum payout limit?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I don't know if I can completely trust a formula if the delegate may not pay people with 'a few hundred Arks' since 'it doesn't split small enough'

whereismyname
whereismyname

Let me ammend: I'm not worried about my stake. I know I'll get mine. This was billed as a delegate of the people. To not be able to pay the people who helped build the ARK is an outcome that is pretty distasteful to me.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

That's not a bad idea, but how do you track it?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Pretty much, yes. As for no incentive to pay, the delegate is still making lots of money (at least a week's worth) which he gets to keep to himself. In the very long term (50 days + 10 weeks I guess) he would break even on scamming us for just a week.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I have no skin in the lower end but if it was me I would want a 1 ark minimum payout because even at that rate the transfer fee is eating 10% of your profit.

askme
askme

I don't have that much Ark at all, around 300 so I don't think I'll get 1 Ark per week.
Do you have a link to the spreadsheet/formula?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I think this should be put to a vote and have those with balances over 3k not participate but I have no idea how the vote would be conducted outside of a good faith system.
Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FGo3FkC3uSWXGHatPQyny2brMWjAIJsHFCR-Lhkl_m0/edit
formula:422*sharerate(100%) in our case*(your weight/pool weight)

With 300 ark you would be looking at slightly less than 1 ark per week.

RavySnake
RavySnake

.9(422(wallet/votes))

7(.9(422(300/965000)))-.1=~.73/wk

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

wake up and see Biz is at 17th already

that was fast

Illusionz
Illusionz

I don't think we can - or should - do that. There may be some Veeky Forumsrealis who legitimately have that much and wanted to contribute.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

delegate up until today
Every little be helps! Even 2 ark votes! Thanks everyone!
delegate today
lmao I'm not paying you unless you have spent $3000 on this coin lol

Methshot
Methshot

You misunderstand, what I am advocating is not to screw them out of their profits. I am saying that they should have a cumulative balance that when their share totals to 1(or whatever is agreed upon) ark it sends out during the regular payout.

This is to their benefit as it makes the transfer fee not cut as deeply into their profit but it does not effect those with higher balances in any way which is why I said that those with over 3k(including myself) should not be able to have any say in this other than explaining the effect.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

3k ark is not exactly nothing, I agree

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I put 50 ARK into the delegate and every week I will get 0.16 ARK but minus the transaction fees I will get 0.06 ARK per week lol

DeathDog
DeathDog

965000
Where is this figure?
Shouldn't it be 935,164.56

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Isn't it 1 Ark minimum?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I don't think there's a minimum right now other than to cover transaction fee at least, his scenario is precisely why I said that if I did have a low amount of ark I would want a minimum.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I'm talking about outing the whales being undemocratic.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

My bad. I was going from memory, since I'm phoneposting.

RavySnake
RavySnake

People should not be able to vote on things that do not effect them.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

In the first place magnet should have been straight with us instead of lying about every little bit helping and how everyone is going to win etc. I'ts not exactly hard to use the same scheme many classic pow pools use as outlines. Coming out literally last second telling people they're not getting paid after having viciously attacked people who wanted answers to very simple questions (how much does it cost to vote - magnet's explanation suggested it cost the entire balance, when can someone vote, how many times can someone vote/unvote, etc.) that have been asked in every thread but magnet still can't be arsed to copy-paste someone else's answer in the op and would rather publicly and noisily announce that that person is totally a troll isn't exactly inspiring confidence either.

That's not even mentioning yet that his advert says he wants transparency and to give feedback if he fucks up, but then when he does get feedback (you should explain better and not think everyone is a troll for wanting to know what they're buying) he attacks them, claiming that they're from other pools and trying to divide "us" and "prevent us from getting in the top 51".

Supergrass
Supergrass

coming out last second
I've been mentioning transaction fees in every thread but the first two(as I joined in the third) and being ignored, not my fault that people are just now grasping their effect.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Yeah, I totally forgot about the transaction fees. I feel like if you have more than 250 ARK you get weekly payout and less than 250 ARK you get monthly payout or something along those lines, would make it better because I am sure we have a lot of small donors in our delegate and the gains would be minuscule.

5mileys
5mileys

The links in the OP explain the voting process you goddamn troglodyte.

And we weren't aiming for the top spot. Dividing the ARK in our wallets by 935k is a hell of a lot worse than the 700 to 800 we were planning on. Of course that skews things.

No shit you're being treated like /b/tard cancer.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Hello delegate user,
in regards to the problem of small-ark holders having a problem of getting a share due to transaction fees and splitting I was wondering if it was possible to have a sort of "dynamic payout interval".

With this I mean that people with smaller ARK possession do get their payouts, but not weekly, but say, bi-weekly (or whatever is necessary). This way it would be possible to send more ARK per transaction and the fees would be a lot lower.

w8t4u
w8t4u

They don't explain any of the meaningful questions and give extremely vague instructions for voting proper. But hey, keep shilling. Now that the cat's out of the bag I'm sure you're worth your weight in ark.

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