How do I explain to retards that communism and socialism is literally the same thing?

How do I explain to retards that communism and socialism is literally the same thing?

How is a state monopoly on the means of production the same thing as common ownership of the means of production?

You're the retard...

They are definitely not the same thing. You, my friend, are the retard.

user, you are in fact the retard.

How would democratic management of the means of production, be in any way, efficient. Want to know the one body where the people getting wages get to vote on stuff pertaining to them? Look at Congress.

What incentive does a vanguard party have to give up power once you enter the transitional state between capitalism and full communism?

Off-topic but why are you so angry? So many people on his are so insulting and full of hate its crazy

>one post in
>already completely abandoned the premise of his thread

mate...

It's kinda sad, isn't it? The average person deep inside is actually filled with hatred and resemtment. We think Veeky Forums is a place where we get to put on our masks and say whatever we want but the truth is that it's the only time we ever get to take our masks off.

>people who browse and post on the history section of a Singaporean suicide forum
>average

The only rational response to Marxism and it's proponents is violent anger.

t. classcuck

It can be the same thing but its not

How can a state monopoly on the means of production, be considered anything other than common ownership of the means of production when the state in question is considered to be the manifestation of the people's will?

Socialism is meant to be a step on the way to communism.

Publicly owned things ("the commons") are effectively owned and operated by the state.

How do I explain to retards that words are defined by their usage and subject to change

Except that Imperialism and socialism are the same thing, as well as Capitalism.

Literally everything is the same thing

How is there a whole thread made up of arguing about definitions which are different depending on who you ask? Why are these so common? Why does nobody see the futility in this?

So much for the "tolerant right"

This bait can fuck right off! Quit polluting thia board

Why are there 2 words for it then?

Bash your head against the wall, that should do the trick.

>What incentive does a vanguard party have to give up power once you enter the transitional state between capitalism and full communism?
Maybe this is why a lot of socialists hate Bolshevism? Not every Marxist is a Marxist-Leninist