Why is age of consent a thing? Who gets to decide when someone is no longer a child and is capable of consent?

Why is age of consent a thing? Who gets to decide when someone is no longer a child and is capable of consent?

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>Who gets to decide when someone is no longer a child and is capable of consent?

Luckily for the children, not you.

>why can't I diddle kids legally, it's not fair!

>Sage. Report. Hide.

This is why libertarians should be shot

daily reminder you missed out on prime teen pussy

In the Roman Empire the age of consent was 12 for girls, 14 for boys. Seems about perfect desu

nice black propaganda, same person, I bet you think anarcho capialism is libertarianism too, get out of here

is there anything morally wrong with killing pedos?

Castrating them is more humane.

>getting this triggered

Hit a nerve didn't I kiddie diddler?

Libertarianism is a joke, just babies first Ayn Rand book anyway. You will become a memecap eventually.

Why does it even matter? You won't get caught even if you break the law unless you do something bad anyway.

Cheaper too.

You don't need your genitals to rape someone

Better make sure

>This is why libertarians should be shot
Because you made a meme pic putting words in their mouths?

The age of consent can only exist in an individualistic society. In a collectivistic society, sexuality is controlled by the ingroup and consent is a tribal thing.

>I put words in OPs mouth
>This isn't what AnCaps want

Sure thing buddy

Exactly. What is "consent?" Seems more like the opposite of consent. "You must be control of your body, but only in these circumstances." Yeah, real consensual.

Civilization is the progress toward a society of privacy. The savage's whole existence is public, ruled by the laws of his tribe. Civilization is the process of setting man free from men.

Ayn Rand

>Why is age of consent a thing?

Do you believe a three year old should be legally bound by a contract he signs?

A bullet costs a dollar.

>" Seems more like the opposite of consent. "You must be control of your body, but only in these circumstances." Yeah, real consensual.

This is so dumb it should be copypasta.

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stop trying to rationalize fucking kids

Why not? If it is wrong, then it will be impossible to rationalize.

Not as long as wrong is included in the rationale.

You'd have to rationally explain what wrong is, or what is wrong before you could even try to dismantle someone else's wrong rationale.

Around the world, the average legal age of consent is around 14, there abouts. That seems fairly reasonable to me. Some young teens or preteens may be interested earlier, some later. In the end, individuals should come to a decision naturally without any external 'grooming', influence or manipulation, especially from an adult. The individual should at the very least, be already masturbating at their own accord. But even then, full penetrative intercourse may not be on the agenda for some years to come. Basically the only circumstance in which i can see it being consensual, by any practical basis, is if you (as an adult or someone much older) are approached by the younger individual first and they want to initiate a sexual relationship. At that point you better be able to prove it if anything goes haywire.

If there is no right and wrong there is no reason. Math problems have answers.

If anything, it's always the Left advocating for lowering age of consent laws and acceptance of pedophellia

And if there is no reason, there cannot be any right or wrong.

Anything good has an explanation.

No one advocates lowering age of consent. It's political suicide

There shouldn't be an age of consent, there shouldn't be laws against drugs and prostitution and people should do their own parenting than asking the government to do it for them.

What's wrong with pedophilia?

That's deliberately misleading.

Age of consent is lower in developing countries where you still get illiterate subsistence farmers breeding as fast as they can.

In virtually every developed nation the age at which you can do things like star in a porno or marry an elderly billionaire is 18. Places like Germany and Japan have an age of consent at 14 but that only acknowledges that they are sexually active, and if you, some middle aged guy, actually went to either of these countries with the intent of scoring some teen pussy, you'd be arrested for the same reason in prudish Merica

Bitch please. Who is Milo Yiannopoulos?

What did we mean by this?

>as if a 14 year old is a child
Wew•100000

>it's always the Left advocating for lowering age of consent laws
ahem

spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.html

It's mainly the Right dumping Milo for his comments. Any Leftist outrage is pure hypocrisy.

>If it's wrong then it will be impossible to rationalize
>this is the thought process of people who rationalize things
>this is what pedos actually believe

Any Leftist outrage is pure hypocrisy?
why is it hypocritical to think you shouldn't fuck kids?

It's more complicated then that. As shows, the idea of mental maturity is very much based on what society requires of young people. If everyone is treated like a little adult once they reach 12 like most of human history, you can take on a lot more responsibility (such as consenting to sex) than if society treats you like a child at age 18.

Thus, traditionalist won't advocate for high age of consent laws on the grounds that they are part of a stupefied society obsessed with grown men and women acting like children. Not only that, but if a 15 year old wants to marry a 25 year old with a stable job so she can have children and be a housewife, and the parents think it's the correct path she should have the right. IMO 14 is a decent age of consent. This is coming from someone who always was attracted to women in their 20s-30s anyway.

Again though, the problem is much more systematic than mere age of consent laws. We need a real overhauling of every aspect of society.

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>leftists don't push for normalizing pedophile

Milo is pretty much a leftist in everything except some economic stances. Dtop pretending they wouldn't be defending shit a faggot pedo said if he wasn't """""right wing""""".

>omg so brave
>the next step towards progress
>so enlightened

I actually meant 'the developed world' i should have specified that. Obviously, third world countries don't have the same standards.

I feel like you need to reread my post, because like I said; 'grooming' behaviors, where the adult has that INTENT, traveling overseas, as you put it; is never going look right or be accepted by society and law. That's why i said the adult would need be approached first by a fairly unique and mature younger individual, which implies that this adult is already trusted by the young individual and that this can be seen as legitimate consent which could be proven by BOTH parties in a court of law if any issue arose.

This is why OP poses the question, because it's tricky. That's why i am putting that, you can't really answer the concept of consent with some arbitrary number/age + consent. A kid can appear to 'give consent', but this may be after months of psychological manipulation, which will also need to be factored in. It's ultimately the individual circumstances which decide whether a sexual offense occurred or not, because that is the issue. Have the rights of any individual been infringed upon. And given the age difference (which implies life experience difference), the younger individual, by default, will assume the role of a victim and they would need to attest otherwise, if they genuinely felt that there was consent and that they weren't 'preyed' upon.

>It's mainly the Right dumping Milo for his comments.
Right, because liberals are SO rallying around the German green party.

Anyone who spends enough time on Veeky Forums knows that when it comes to pedos in the anglosphere it's always the "government is evil" types who think that 14 year olds should have the "freedom" to be prostitutes. All the liberals I know agree that age of consent laws are the best way to keep creeps away from exploiting vulnerable children while they focus hard on getting an education and developing their careers as strong, independent women.

>Milo is pretty much a leftist in everything except some economic stances.
by whose's standards? Breitbart?

I'm a bitch: the post.

Or you can just have the legal age of consent be 18 and not have to deal with all this bullshit. There are plenty of Romeo and Juliet laws in many states already. OP is either bait or a pedo.

Why do we have so many threads about people wanting to fuck children?

Children can consent
Those who hold the dogmatic belief that children can never consent have long forgotten how it was to be a kid
As someone who had consensual sex with an adult women when I was 10, I can tell you it's possible

That being said, it doesnt mean pedophilia should be legalized
Even though children can consent in some cases, if pedophilia was to be allowed there would be shittons of abuses like people pressuring kids into saying they consent when they don't...etc

I love the liberalcuck myth that teenagers are "groomed for sex" if you have a low age of consent. Meanwhile the countries that have issues of grooming like the U.K. all have high ages of consent.

>Godless sodomite pedophile degenerate
>Right wing moral values

It's a national trend.

In many ways their method is fairer because it allows the system to be flexible enough that a 19 year old boy won't have his life ruined because he started dating a 15 year old. But it's still the case where if it is a significantly older man with a teenager, they automatically assume that the relationship was predatory for the simple reason that it almost always is.

some pedos try to spin it that because the age of consent is 14 then anybody can fuck a 14 year old without consequence. But basically everywhere that age is 18, with certain exceptions handled on a case-by-case basis.

stay mad, Trumpanzee. That's all tards like you are good for.

I thought he was a Christian.

It's a fat ugly double standard. Every man knows (unless you're a faggot like Styx) that 11-14 year old boys are 100% able and willing to have sex. That's why society doesn't get outraged when female teachers have sex with male students. Women are viewed as the fairer sex without the agency to consent because it is convenient for them from a legal perspective. Not because they lack an ability men have at that age. It also is ironic that the feminist narrative men and women are equal always goes away as soon as it means less legal protection and cultural moral protection for women.

don't act like you didn't fucking love him for trolling left-wingers up until about a week ago

>As someone who had consensual sex with an adult women when I was 10, I can tell you it's possible
>listen to my totally not made up anecdotal evidence ok

>Gay
>Christian
>Pick One

His mothers a Jew actually.

>diddled by a catholic
>raised catholic
>"lol, he is a kike."

>through tradition
in some cases the tradition was once the girl had her period, she was fit to marry. My great grandfather was 28 when he married his 14yo wife in America in 1912...that's illegal now and gets you put on a lifetime registry thaat no other types of criminals are placed on

Milo please.
The right is rampant with pedos and degenerates, they just pretend it doesn't exist in their ranks. Often times it's projection. Much like the cuck phenomenon.

America's relationship with sex is twisted.

No I always hated the fucking degenerate faggot, only shitty Redditors like him. He is littleraly useless and tried on several occasions to either misrepresent or co opt "alt right". Not to mention his association with "right wingers" in general is going to be annoying whenever some whataboutist says right wingers push for pedoshit too.

REMOVE &HUMANITIES

No one said it wasn't anecdotal, the goal isnt to claim that every child/adult sexual relationship is consensual
But the fact this "anecdote" happened proves that the dogma which says that children can NEVER consent is wrong

>liberals are suddenly the moral party
I am laffin

>this whole thread

Out of curiosity, do you own a firearm or would you try to get someone else to shoot libertarians? All the libertarians I know are the shoot back if shot at type of person.

Same. My grandpa met my grandma when she was 12 and he was 20, but it was kind of an arranged marriage type deal. Nevertheless no grooming or abuse was involved. Prudish virgin progressive faggots are deluded.

Actually one of /trash/'s few rules is that Loli/shota/cub is not allowed.

>that 11-14 year old boys are 100% able and willing to have sex
but psychologically speaking are immature and easily manipulated by adults.
>That's why society doesn't get outraged when female teachers have sex with male students.
Bullshit. Women get convicted of statutory rape all the time.
lifestylepassion.com/15-1/40-female-school-teachers-arrested-for-sleeping-with-students/
It just doesn't happen nearly as often as the other way around, which is why people aren't as guarded about it. And most of the lack of outrage about female-on-male abuse comes from adult men who objectify the teacher and can't think outside of their own fantasy-land imagining themselves as the receiver of this type of attention ("how come none of MY teachers ever sexually abused me?", but would be singing a completely different tune if it were an older male teacher seducing a girl his daughter's age.

That's not a solution because 'all this bullshit' goes hand in hand with being human. Blanketing a law over an issue that doesn't represent the intricacies of society, does nothing more than create criminals out of people who morally, are no such thing.

This is essentially what I'm saying

OP may have been a baiting pedo, but i think it's a serious issue that deserves a serious discussion. Humans have sexual needs and they are complex. We can't simply demonise the 'unusual' and by the same token, we MUST protect the vulnerable.

One more thing i want to clarify. 9/10 any case that involves a minor is going to be predatory in nature. I am not vouching for pedophila by any means! What i am referring to involves teenagers and perhapspre-teens; that is, ephebophilia. There is a quite a big difference.

It depends on how you define your morals.

>Raised Catholic

Yet he isn't practicing and a litteral faggot.

And he's also littleraly a kike by definition.

Judaism is matrilineal

>Bullshit. Women get convicted of statutory rape all the time
No one said they weren't. I said The moral outrage isn't there. It hypocritically isn't.

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No!

Name right wing pedos other than Milo(>>>rightwing).

Name right wingers who advocate for pedo acceptance other than AnCaps.

completely agreed.

There are several examples of people having legal sex, but once a picture is taken, it's illegal CP. Hell, even Canada has a "private use clause."

In North Carolina, there were 2 teens aged 16+17 being charged as adults for possessing nudes of themselves...wtf

these laws were made to protect kids being abused and legitimately victimized, but theyre being used to lock up sexters for 15+ years.

Fed CP sentencing laws have been directly changed by congress several times making it akin to crack laws.

In CA, production of CP is a minimum 1 year sentence...Fedlaw is 15. When the possession min was 5 years, Some judges have counted each individual image as a charge leading to 100+ year sentences and there is no parole in the fed system

No your anecdote is wrong too, a ten year old is not sufficiently mature enough mentally to consent.

Just because someone gets off on it doesn't mean it was right or that it wasn't molestation

>This is essentially what I'm saying
I'm glad that we can reach an agreement and have a discussion rather than fight. I think a flexible system is preferable to an inflexible one, but some fences were put in place for a reason

>I said The moral outrage isn't there
and I said the problem is not "liberals", most of whom think that children should be focusing on their education and careers, which can make them as much of a social prude as any bible thumper. The problem is adult men, regardless of political orientation, who act all bummed out that they didn't get to bang any of their teachers in high school.

Good thing liberals have no morals then.

>muh maturity

I agreed to it and I loved it, that's what consent means
Stop acting like fucking is a life changing decision
Sex change on the other hand is one, yet I don't see anyone stop these degenerate leftards who have their 5 years old kids take hormonal pills to switch sexs

>The problem is adult men, regardless of political orientation, who act all bummed out that they didn't get to bang any of their teachers in high school.
Do you have any sources for this? I think the problem is society has conditioned as to view females as the victims in sexual relationships. Something which objectively isn't the case. At least not anymore than men.

>disobeys a law
>Not a criminal

If you don't want to potentially be jail for pedophilia when it """technically wasnt""" then stay away from fucking jailbait you fucking nigger. How hard is this of a concept to grasp?

New York:
>12yo can lawfully have sex as long as the partner is under age 16
>16yos can have sex with 16+17yos
>17yos can have sex with anyone 17+
>state recognizes adolescents are mature eeough to face risks like AIDs and pregnancy without comprehensive sex ed.
>God help those kids if they take a nude pic....thats CP and they cant understand the impact

completely arbitrary cutoff ages that have rome and juliet loopholes anyway

>Do you have any sources for this?
yes. Do a google search for female-on-male statutory rape cases (which invariably involve a woman in a teaching position) and look in the comments section.

> I think the problem is society has conditioned as to view females as the victims in sexual relationships.
Do you mean abusive relationships? Because 95 times out of 100 that is actually the case, only for male-on-female the largest share of cases is an older male family member like an uncle or step-brother levering his position of authority within the family in order to draw younger female members into vulnerable situations.

>comments are an indicator of public morality
Lol
>Because 95 times out of 100 that is actually the case,
Feminist propaganda without a source. Like all your claims.

I guess we should also lower the age of legal adulthood to 10. I mean if they can rationaly make decisions on whether or not they might want to potentially sire children that means they are responsible. right? Might as well lower the age of child trials to 9 as well since obviously 10 year olds are so responsible. Oh and voting too.

you can't account for non reporting of men being abused by women. It's almost non existent because men are supposed to be macho.

Hell, it's pretty well known that Rihanna had been hitting Chris Brown before he retaliated but it was made into "Chris Brown is a woman beater" it's not considered self dfense because shes a weak little flower girl and he should have been able to take her punches