Tfw Western civilization is in decline

Is their anyway European population could bounce back without immigration
After 2050 I bet most countries will have gotten to a developed enough point to not have people running away
World population will even out soon anyway
(I'm not talking bout us)

Europe is lost. Forget about Europe.

Europe is nothing but welfare states and single mothers

Let each single mother have 5-8 children each so they get a bigger check in the mail and problem solved

or if you dont like the feminist solution just outlaw birth control and abortion

I know this sounds sexist, but the western world needs to reduce its stance on divorce by not allowing couples to depart until their biological children are adults and give them tax breaks.

I don't get Oswald Spengler and why he appeals to certain types of people. On one hand he says that civilizations are always in a cycle and that men must face it steadfast but at the same time it is ultimately fruitless and hope that western civilization will survive is cowardice.

Is there something I'm missing here?

>implying the hero isn't always in trouble in the third act

What a horrible sentiment

Good, all the Molyneux acolytes need to fucking hang.

true western civilization ended a long time ago

>Is their anyway European population could bounce back without immigration
I have reason to believe a meteor strike will wipe out most the earth. There is this.

Europe has bigger problems to worry about like an unstable currency, high unemployment rates, drug use, shrinking economic opportunity etc. just like America and the rest of the Developed world.

People should realize the conditions after WW2 which produced the post-war miracle wouldn't last forever and were in fact the result of extremely specific circumstances as well as the fact that populations naturally fall and rise in a cyclical manner. Even major blows to Europe's population such as the Black Death or the world wars didn't make the European race go instinct.

The only thing Europe needs to do is keep the billions of non-Europeans out of their continent. This is it. Nothing more needs to be done and everything will work out.

Good
I look forward to it
whities got what they deserves

This a hundred times over. Depending on what you define as civilization, western civilization really is in no more decline than it ever was. Our system of government, way of life, philosophies, ways of dress, religion, etc. are more popular than ever. I don't understand how this could be interpreted as decline just because the brown people are all clamoring to join us

This, Africa is the future

Daily reminder that the name Europe comes from a WOMAN who wasn't even European.

fuckin african bulges

There's no fucking way Africa can support a population comparable to Asia. It's just not fertile enough.

Europe will still stagnate and fall off over time though. When he rest of the world was fucked up Europe took advatange of that but now many countries are improving and are very competitive and Europe doesn't have the same economic prowess it did have.

It's gonna end up like East Europe overtime.

It's called investment in agriculture.
Most land that is used to farm was MADE that way.

>or if you dont like the feminist solution just outlaw birth control and abortion

Perfect.

>Niggers slash and burning the rainforest and depleting their aquifers just in time to get BTFO by AGW

>There's no fucking way Africa can support a population comparable to Asia. It's just not fertile enough.

That's what food aid is for goy!
You wouldn't want all those poor African children to starve would you?
Don't forget to accept them as refugees too when they get tired of waiting for you to bring the food to them and decide to come to you instead!

>just outlaw birth control and abortion
all that does is saddle unsustainable growth on poor, single teen moms a.k.a the women least in a position to handle the responsibility to raising children.

You want your wealthier and more successful members of society to be having more children, not the poorer dregs of society.

Take their children away then.

>all that Canadian green
Manifest Destiny: Northern Edition when?

1. Get rid of welfare.
2. Ban women from working.
3. Kick out all foreigners.
4. Punish businesses for outsourcing by taxing the shit out of them.

So that they can have a shittier quality of life in some overcrowded, run down state orphanage?

Or will white upper class families be made to raise Tyrone's illegitimate child?

>1. Get rid of welfare.
I'm sure that will go over well
>2. Ban women from working.
you're delusional if you think they're ever going to give that up without a fight
>3. Kick out all foreigners.
Another pipe dream, and a nice way to sentence your country to a slow death like the xenophobic city-states of Greece
>4. Punish businesses for outsourcing by taxing the shit out of them.
All they do is pass that extra cost onto their customers in the form of raising prices

>you're delusional if you think they're ever going to give that up without a fight
Women love abusive male figures.
Crack down hard and they'll slink back to the kitchen with their tails held high purring loudly like the alley cats they are.

>I'm sure that will go over well
It will.

>you're delusional if you think they're ever going to give that up without a fight
>implying they can do anything about it

>Another pipe dream, and a nice way to sentence your country to a slow death like the xenophobic city-states of Greece
Homogeneity is beneficial for national cohesion.

>All they do is pass that extra cost onto their customers in the form of raising prices
Send the brownshirts over then or shame them publicly to ruin their business. Make a few examples out of those that won't comply, the rest of them will.

Civilizations rise and fall all the time. Are you really shocked to see the west die?
The US and Europe will die. Something better will then take their place.

>it will
Enjoy your revolution.
>implying they can do anything about it
Enjoy your revolution and an economic crisis.
>Send the brownshirts over then or shame them publicly to ruin their business.
Except this worked only because of an economic crisis. It was literally the only reason why the Nazis achieved anything.

No, that is why I believe immigration is necessary, but we have to do a better job assimilating everyone who crosses EU border.

Imagine an army of muslims ready to die for France charging your enemies, while shouting "Allahu akbar, Vive le France"

How is it that we've allowed the economy to become such that having children could be considered a burden?

>Something better will then take their place.
After hundreds of thousands of years thanks to the bombs maybe

By criminalizing forced child labor and requiring basic education. In good old times you would have 8 children, 4 of whom would survive infancy so you can put them to work at age 6 and profit form their labor until they start their own families. These were the days.

Is there any way to fix this without forced child labor? That sounds like a recipe for alcoholism and heroin addiction

Well you can try and sell naked pictures of your child, but other than that, I don't think there is a way to prevent him from becoming a huge time and resource drain for the next 25 years.

Thats actually a really clever cartoon

Naw, if everyone did that, the price would be so low that the child would still be a burden

>The African bulge

>By criminalizing forced child labor and requiring basic education.

or maybe kids would just get a summer job sweeping up a shop to earn a little extra money. People think of kids mining away for diamonds as slaves when they hear child labor, but it isnt that black and white bad

quality post

South Africa when the ANC is inevitably kicked the fuck out in this year's elections, sure but where is even any potential for the rest? Especially with sea levels rising

>After hundreds of thousands of years thanks to the bombs maybe
The western roman empire fell in 476
Your average european citizen had a much hugher living standart by 1476
The technology was more advanced too
Given the fact that technological progress is faster than ever nowadays, it'll take less than 1000 years for new countries in Europe to outclass what we have today

Well, for a given value of "Esterno civilization," that Image and true. Does not make a good argument, thought.

>Imagine an army of muslims ready to die for France charging your enemies

muslims are the enemy.

Holy shit you're fucking retarded

>uses "xenophobic" unironically
Everybody throughout history except for western suckers have been xenophobic, user. Who wants someone else to rule over them?

>muh we need immigration

you realize an ever growing population is a bubble waiting to burst?

importing thirld world savages won't solve this issue, at the very least you could give economical incentives and promotion of cultural means to have children

Trump and the alt-right will lead a new crusade against the rise of non-whites.

If they allotted all the money they spend on welfare to aliens instead to give a weekly salary to every family per kid the native born population would skyrocket.

>Manifest Destiny: Northern Edition when?

Never.

Stop being dumb.

Living alongside is not the same as being ruled by.

The reduction of importance of the extended family unit and the rise of the individual as an island has caused this trend. Everyone thinks about their own desires and wants over those of others, and assumes they need to focus all their efforts on their own well being above anyone else, including family.

In the past, having children was seen as a continuation of the family unit. Children will always be a burden on the parents from birth to their teenage years at least, but with children, you have the advantage of creating another generation for your family line and theoretically, someone who will share similar values and characteristics as yourself. In addition, with continued service to the family unit, you also have an individual that can help you later in life when you can't do everything yourself anymore, such as when old age begins to take its toll and productive work isn't possible.

With all members of the family unit working towards the betterment of each other, each individual within the family has a better chance of success due to the nature of the support group they were born into. Modern times attempts to move away from this to shift dependence on family towards dependence on government.

It is when they begin to demographically replace you in a "democracy".

There's nothing up there, might as well leave it to Nature

They aren't joining us, though. They're occupying our countries, subsisting off of our welfare systems, bringing their shitty cultures here and passing their values on to the giant wave of offspring they're currently producing.

Pic related is a post by an interracial cuckold fetishist tumblr, but which I believe is very insightful about what is going on in Europe.

European peoples have lost their sense of transcendence. They don't believe in anything beyond material pleasures, they don't believe in god, in honour, in anything. They don't even believe in the equality boilerplate they repeat so much, they just do it because it's what is socially acceptable to do.

So if a bunch of brown and black males begin raping a Swedish girl in a train, they won't do anything, because that would be inconvenient for them. But if a Swedish male had consensual date with a brown female, her entire family would beat him, because they believe in honour and pride.

That's the difference in mentality between a conquering race and a conquered people.