Did people have fetishes before the advent of widespread pornography?

Did people have fetishes before the advent of widespread pornography?
All I can think of is primal instinct like rape or things involving barnyard animals.

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I doupt historians are going to write much about peoples stupid fetishes. Some greek pagan religions did have bestiality in them if that helps.

What makes you so sure pornography leads to the development of weird fetishes?

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A certain percentage of people have always had strange sexual preferences, but societal structure usually prevents people from revealing their power level except by accident, and even if people knew their neighbor had kinks it wasn't really notable.

Certain societal conditions have allowed people to try to push their fetishes out into the open, for example the intellectual crowd during the enlightenment and the social-progressives of modern times.

Some participants developed their roles as the guards enforced authoritarian measures and ultimately subjected some prisoners to psychological torture. Many of the prisoners passively accepted psychological abuse and, by the guards' request, actively harassed other prisoners who tried to stop it. Zimbardo, in his role as the superintendent, allowed abuse to continue.[4][5] Two of the prisoners left mid-experiment, and the whole exercise was abandoned after six days following the objections of graduate student Christina Maslach, whom Zimbardo was dating (and later married). Certain portions of the experiment were filmed, and excerpts of footage are publicly available.
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Well firstly pornography has always been present in society and much more openly than recently.

Secondly, of course people had fetishes. Foucault talks about this in his work "The History of Sexuality". His main point is that during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, fetishes became categorised with given terms and were thought to be of some sort of deviancy despite the past thousand generations of human beings being quite open about their sexuality. The coinciding of Puritan values in England ( and later the Victorian repression era) with the advent of rationalism and scientific categorisation meant that the idea of a "fetish" became distinct in modern discourse when before it was merely just a part of sex.

I always imagined eating the ass was the most degenerate thing you could do next to scat. Can't imagine asses being as clean as they can be in modern times.

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why do horror movies have sexual connotations?

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I was sheriff of this county when I was twenty-five. Hard to believe. Grandfather was a lawman. Father too. Me and him was sheriff at the same time, him in Plano and me here. I think he was pretty proud of that. I know I was. Some of the old-time sheriffs never even wore a gun. A lot of folks find that hard to believe. Jim Scarborough never carried one. That the younger Jim. Gaston Boykins wouldn’t wear one. Up in Commanche County. I always liked to hear about the old- timers. Never missed a chance to do so. Nigger Hoskins over in Batrop County knowed everybody’s phone number off by heart. You can’t help but compare yourself against the old timers. Can’t help but wonder how they would’ve operated these times. There was this boy I sent to Huntsville here a while back. My arrest and my testimony. He killed a fourteen-year-old girl. Papers said it was a crime of passion but he told me there wasn’t any passion to it. Told me that he’d been planning to kill somebody for about as long as he could remember. Said that if they turned him out he’d do it again. Said he knew he was going to hell. Be there in about fifteen minutes. I don’t know what to make of that. I surely don’t. The crime you see now, it’s hard to even take its measure. It’s not that I’m afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to even do this job – not to be glorious. But I don’t want to push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don’t understand. You can say it’s my job to fight it but I don’t know what it is anymore. More than that, I don’t want to know. A man would have to put his soul at hazard. He would have to say, okay, I’ll be part of this world.

*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*

Yes, watch graphic sexual horror. It's about the rise of BDSM in the internet age but the guy that the doco is about explains the origin of it all

I always loved how he describes every characters tits, genitals and asshole in detail in the character glossary.

Literally the real life version of Tale of Scrotie Mcboogerballs.

>the amount of times i jerked off to this book
i regret nothing

You're not alone kek
Near the end it gets a little to much for me tho

I can't get no satisfaction, I can't get no satisfaction
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no

could you please not

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Listen to the first two Velvet Underground records.

Most importantly, who was the first cuck fetishist in history?

Why? If you have running water you can get your ass totally clean. I mean, it is kind of gross but you can easily remove all detectable traces of shit. You don't need 21st century tech for that.

Joseph?

I've been fascinated by [spoiler]vore[/spoiler] for as long as I can remember, long before I used the internet.

I don't think widespread availability of pornography creates fetishes, it just reinforces existing ones, and makes them more extreme over time.

Shakespeare

What the fuck is so hot about being swallowed whole and digested? I seriously don't get this fetish. Where's the pleasure?

Not him, but it's warm and wet...

People have always had fetishes. pic related, ancient greek painting of a woman getting spit roasted whilst spanked and whipped by two men.

you've still got germs
I mean no one knew that until shortly before modern sanitation, but they knew what kind of things were unclean

kind of this and it's about as intimate as you can get, physically
I'm not into it really but it's interesting and I could see myself getting into it, certainly some of the "softest" pics have gotten me hard when browsing around

Spit roasting comes pretty natural especially when you're with your bros desu

*cough* Caligula *cough*

Romans had widespread pornography.

But they had slaves and prostitutes to rape.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Sade

Sadism comes from this guy's name.

Bonobos

Is this real?

I read 120 Days of Sodom in French once (mainly to piss of my high school teacher). Fucking weird.

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9DxYhqmKw

Thread theme song

is that acid or boiling water?

there was that one roman senator who made his wife get morbidly obese

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how can mortals even compete?

we have been memed into thinking this era is OMG SO DEVIANT PUSHING LE BOUNDARIES, when were the vanillaest fuckers in whole history.

a permanent state of arousal makes the subject easier to shock emotionally.

Proofs?

Normalfags don't have fetishes. At least they don't seem to admit to it.

well, clearly eve was fucked by cain, so theres that.

I like how it starts off with kind of funny gross stuff like licking boogers out of a prostitutes nose, etc., and then progresses to shit like driving a wooden stake into a pregnant woman's belly.

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>warm and wet...
>intimate
of course its about some regressive fantasies, going back into the safeness of the uterus, fusing again with the mother, dissolving into a shared consciousness. nihilistic in nature, but very primitive in a pulsional level.

You serious m8?

>Proofs?
proof of what? that were super prude as a society? just look around. that some corny act like the 50 shadows of grey got so much notoriety and normies were soooo revolutionized by it tells that were so domesticated in our desires its hilarious and very sad.

LARGE OCTOPUS: My wish comes true at last, this day of days; finally I have you in my grasp! Your “bobo” is ripe and full, how wonderful! Superior to all others! To suck and suck and suck some more. After we do it masterfully, I’ll guide you to the Dragon Palace of the Sea God and envelop you. “Zuu sufu sufu chyu chyu chyu tsu zuu fufufuuu…”

MAIDEN: You hateful octopus! Your sucking at the mouth of my womb makes me gasp for breath! Aah! yes… it’s…there!!! With the sucker, the sucker!! Inside, squiggle, squiggle, oooh! Oooh, good, oooh good! There, there! Theeeeere! Goood! Whew! Aah! Good, good, aaaaaaaaaah! Not yet! Until now it was I that men called an octopus! An octopus! Ooh! Whew! How are you able…!? Ooh! “yoyoyooh, saa… hicha hicha gucha gucha, yuchyuu chyu guzu guzu suu suuu….”

LARGE OCTOPUS: All eight limbs to interwine with!! How do you like it this way? Ah, look! The inside has swollen, moistened by the warm waters of lust. “Nura nura doku doku doku…”

MAIDEN: Yes, it tingles now; soon there will be no sensation at all left in my hips. Ooooooh! Boundaries and borders gone! I’ve vanished….!!!!!!

SMALL OCTOPUS: After daddy finishes, I too want to rub and rub my suckers at the ridge of your furry place until you disappear and then I’ll suck some more. “chyu chyu..”

It's watermelon flavored water.

>waifu