Epic of Gilgamesh - the great flood

The Epic of Gilgamesh features the Great Deluge, what the fuck?
So did the great flood in the old testament exist or what?
Did people lose their shit when they first translated this segment?

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Jews included the great flood story from Sumeria and made it their own.

Yes, the man who discovered it lost his shit.

1. Flooding was a constant problem in ancient times. It makes sense why ancient folk came up with a myth involving it.

2. Ancient Hebrews incorporated the flood myth during the Babylonian captivity when they mingled with other Near Eastern cultures. In addition the flood myth, they also incorporated the myth of Sargon of Akkad's birth into their beliefs, retooling it as the myth of Moses's birth.

Flooding is what enabled agriculture.

Grains plants are adapted to take over when all other plants die in the flood.

Noah = Utnapishtim

Apparently the gilgamesh text is lifted word for word in the old testament flood story. How do religiousfags believe this shit literally?

They rationalize it somehow, like Utnapishtim is actually Noah and was renamed / retooled by Near Eastern cultures (not the other way around).

As a christian, nothing pisses me off more than people who take the bible literally, especially creationists. Gives the rest of us a bad name.

scholars don't even consider the epic of gilgamesh a religious text you tards. also there's evidence of a global deluge such as how mammoths are found with grass in their mouths

DURR THE BIBLE CUPIED OFF OF THE MESOPOTAMIANS DURRRRR

>Civilizations established in river valleys have stories of great floods

Gee, I wonder why.

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>how mammoths are found with grass in their mouths
The perception of "mammoth" you have ascribed to "darwinists" involves a hairy elephant bravely trudging stop huge layers of ice, yes? What do you think these herbivorous animals ate?

Da joos copied their entire belief system. The flood was taken from Hermes and the story of Atlantis. Eve and the apple is almost a carbon copy of Pandora's box/jar. Even their god, Yahweh, was originally part of the Canaanite pantheon. He's actually a war demon. They unironically worship the devil.

Even when Jesus came about and they wanted to make him into the Messiah they ripped off the story of his birth from Mithras, and several other "sons of god(s)" who were born of a virgin on the date of the winter solstice.

There's nothing new on the face of this Earth and protip: every religion is basically Gnosticism except for Abrahamism which is a strange bastardized cuck version of it.

did they just decide to stop grazing all of a sudden to somehow bury themselves en masse in the permafrost ice ?

Some historians have suggested that the Deluge myth references a real event; the flooding of the Black Sea basin.
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The Tigris and Euphrates were also known to frequently burst their banks. This was an important feature in Sumerian religion and may have later developed into the Gilgamesh epic.

No, the change from the steppe ecosystem to a more hostile one (habitat loss) combined with predation from early humans led to their extinction. Changing environmental conditions combined with human activity drove many groups to extinction, actually.

t. some guy who just watched zeitgeist and doesn't do any research

>Yahweh, was originally part of the Canaanite pantheon. He's actually a war demon. They unironically worship the devil.
not correct like this. Yahweh was the war god of the Canaanites, and El was the chief deity. When they became monotheistic, they started only worshipping El, who was merged together with, and adopted the name of Yahwe.

so it was the naturally changing environment along with the fact that humans were hunting them that caused them to suddenly freeze below -100 celsius and die in ice while they were grazing ?

That's not in question. The question is how can people believe the noah's ark story when it is copied word for word FROM gilgamesh.

Also there is no evidence for a global deluge. The floods were periodic and localised in the tigris/euphrates region. Rivers tend to flood...

No, environmental changes reducing their regular habitats combined with humans hunting them in warmer climates led to reduced herd numbers, which in turn reduced their overall grazing ability and the amount of local environmental disturbance they generated. This, combined with already mentioned factors, led to a transition from steppe environments to others they were much less suited for. However, their actual food source, of small grasses and sedges, remained relatively unchanged, and in fact their inability to switch to some new food source likely contributed to their eventual extinction.

Bruh but how was there grass in a herbivore's mouth when it died? Checkm8 gaythiests.

what parallels can be drawn between the flood in the epic of gilgamesh and the flood in the bible other than talking about a flood and a boat? was noah granted immortality? no. did noah's flood last 7 days? no. did the people turn to clay after it? no. keep in mind the flood myth was altered in the 7th century BC which was after the book of genesis was written

humans hunting them wouldn't have even put a dent in their numbers. there's millions of mammoth bones in siberia

as well, they were massive and had layers of hair meant to withstand extremely cold temperatures. they weren't chased off into the cold they were more suited for, they preferred it. that's why they adapted long coats of hair in the first place. they weren't "less suited" to colder climates. fuck off. furthermore, they obviously lived in temperate climates with somewhat of an abundance of grass plants because as pointed out, they had sizable populations. so somewhere along the line that transition in environment had to have happened where they weren't already adjusted to it such as naturally cold temperature and at such a rapid pace that they didn't even have time to adjust to it

>humans hunting them wouldn't have even put a dent in their numbers
The consensus on the extinction of megafauna is human activity.

>as well, they were massive and had layers of hair meant to withstand extremely cold temperatures. they weren't chased off into the cold they were more suited for, they preferred it.
No, they were made to withstand exactly as cold a temperature as their food sources could allow. Large migrating herds of mammoths would disturb the ground enough to promote the growth of small grasses and sedges, which were unsurprisingly exactly the mammoth's food sources. They would not be able to migrate into the warmer climates already dominated by the human hunters decimating their populations, and would need to migrate into areas they were less adapted to and had fewer tools with which to deal with the problem.

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