Where did the concept of nobility came from?

Where did the concept of nobility came from?

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Genes.

There was a time before any states existed and all the land was free.

Then someone decided that he wants to own that land and told everyone else that he now owns the land and the other people were stupid enough to believe him.

define the "concept"

do you mean how people became nobles, or how they created the culture we associate nobility with ?

OOGA BOOGA I HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU SO IM BETTER THAN YOU IN EVERY DAY

This. Some people are simply superior to others, and human beings that are abnormally superior tend to become rulers.

>A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K
>A convinces B, C and D to exploit and subjugate the rest
>B, C and D agree since they can see that helping A means they help themselves
>A becomes Kang
>B, C and D become nobles

Power of force and the ability to a mass wealth.

You can see it with your own eyes. Have you seen chad? All regal with a nice jaw and a kingly confidence. Also intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour. Have you seen yourself?

If there were two people on the planet one of them would be submissive to the other

From God

It stems from hierarchy. A community needs a chief to resolve disputes. A collection of communities needs a figurehead among the chiefs. A group of figureheads needs their own figurehead and so on.

So someone from these upper-levels has a son, naturally they will teach them the skills they need to be a good ruler, they will make a strategic marriage with some other ruler's daughter. Eventually they will form a class of their own.

War chiefs and community leaders mostly

As inequality in terms of power and usually wealth is unavoidable, any long-term stable society has to justify this fact or it will be undermined by resentment between the classes.

The idea of nobility enshrines this 'natural' order in a stable structure and also (perhaps most importantly) places social obligations (particularly military service) on the nobles in exchange for their privileged position.

tl;dr: muh moral economy

English Nobility > Old French Noble > Latin Nobilis

Meaning well-bred/of pure race

wrong, tribes 'owned' territory and warfare between them was common

more like nobels were descendants of people who amassed wealth and power so inherited it without having to do anything themselves

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Your question is ambiguous. So I will give you few geographical insights as to "where".

Nobility as a "group dedicated to military affairs in a trifunctional society (as opposed to those who produce, and those who pray)" came from Europe during the late Roman Empire.

If you extend the concept of nobility as a group who fight, rule and own land like some believe in this thread you can go way back to ancient Greece, Sparta being a pretty good example since the few thousands citizens were solely dedicated to that while the hundreds of thousand helots were basically serves.
And by the way I wouldn't be surprised that Minoans, and particularly Mycenaeans used to have this kind of nobility.

The self is a meme

And then one of the tribes triumphed over the other tribes and the leader of that tribe declared himself King

Warrior class you dolt

What mod is that?

God

what texture mod is that please ?

If you spend your entite life as a peasant you're probably just a retard.

Nature.

>he thinks nobility has anything to do with money
Ameriblob spotted

>How did the nobles BECOME noble? At the tip of a sword..

People amass wealth and power due to talent, luck or both. People who hold it for extended periods tend to do so because of the former though, therefore because of this genetic superiority, they form marriage alliances and pass on their superior genes.

I went to a private boarding school, the people there are just better looking and generally smarter than the hoi polloi - more socialized too, they find it easy to make people feel at ease, they're the definition of "charming".

>tfw no noble qt to rape
>tfw have to stick to femanons because that's the best I can get

>Entire world organized into tribes, AKA families.
>Families look after themselves at the expense of others.
>Develop disputes with other families, stronger families wind up asserting dominance over weaker ones.
>Ruling families are thus born, headed by a chief or highest elder with closest male relatives holding more power than distant ones.

>Christianity comes along, ruling families see a way to further cement their power by converting and proclaiming divine providence over others.
>Transforms the concept of ruling family into royal family.

> implying you can't buy titles

Youre real dumb, mister.

>without having to do anything themselves
Except they inherited the responsibility of maintaining the protection and well-being of their entire realm or risk disgracing their dynasty. Being a noble wasn't exactly easy.

What does that have to do with user's point? A commoner couldn't buy themselves into nobility.

>Except they inherited the responsibility of maintaining the protection and well-being of their entire realm or risk disgracing their dynasty. Being a noble wasn't exactly easy.

Dude, he has watched Hollywood films about the matter alright? And he has watched HBO series too, he knows more than you. Professor Goldberg does too, you hateful white bigot.

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The older he gets the more unnatural he looks. He doesn't bear any of his mother's features at all. How disgusting a thing race mixing is.

Majority of nobles in almost any given era were fucking poor. Most people ITT have no idea what they're talking about.

Come on buddy Barack is good looking, regardless if mixed race people aren't to your taste. As well Hillary. As well as Donald.

That's just the way rulers work.

>Barack is good looking

He is?

Certainly not by European/Western/White standards. No sharpness to his features, no fair skin, no thick, silky, straight or curled hair.

Maybe Americans have been so pozzed by nigs that they believe anyone brown wearing a suit is good looking though.

Now Mitt Romney was a good looking guy, as is Paul Ryan, they're both cucks - but they're both undeniably attractive.

>Come on buddy Barack is good looking, regardless if mixed race people aren't to your taste.

He isn't. The Caucasoid features just didn't translate through that well because his mother was ugly to begin with.

Obama is ugly as fuck and so is his wife and children.

>No sharpness to his features
Nigger you blind. His jaw forms a nice trapezoid and is overall skinny which adds definition to pretty much everything

>Now Mitt Romney was a good looking guy, as is Paul Ryan,
>Good Looking
They have faces a man would punch. Specially Romney. Ryan's just more generic. Obama looks traditionally handsome, but nothing special.

>Being this desperate to pretend Barack Hussein Obongo has a caucasoid strong jaw

Are you his boyfriend or something?

Sounds like something a weak jawed numale would post lmao

>Obama looks traditionally handsome

By what tradition? Certainly by no western or european one. See pic related here: - that is a traditionally masculine western man. BHO looks nothing like him. In fact BHO just looks like a lusus naturae freak with a pointy chin and kinky hair.

Certainly nowhere in our european beauty standards can you find a standard for brillo pad hair. Sorry Tyrone, ask your white whore mom who your dad was and complain to him for giving you such shit genes, Veeky Forums isn't the place.

Speaking as a brit, the man looks good.

Mitt Romney is attractive, but Paul Ryan? He looks like some estrogen laced kike.

>Speaking as a member of the ugliest nation on Earth
Yeah that sure means something

when some guy and his family became in charge of a village by virtue of having sticks and rocks and killing anyone who disagreed with him being in charge, he said "we're better than all of them!" and that's where nobility came from.

This is such a reddit tier comment

Paul Ryan is absurdly popular among women for some reason.

Far moreso than BHO was.

Imagine a time when the political elites had to personally risk their lives in any war they'd steer the country into.

It sure wasn't his looks. He's a goof.

In what way are BHO's facial features any better looking? His jaw is less defined, his nose is less aquiline, his skin is browner and his hair is kinkier.

Who is BHO?

Barack Hussein (Mohammed) Obama (pbuh).

Never mentioned him but he's the ugliest president America ever had.

When a band of warriors decide to settle and rule a land they conquered and pass it to their sons.

>A commoner couldn't buy themselves into nobility.
Except for those times they did.
It my not have been common, but for various reasons it did happen.

Literally the very next president is uglier

Genes mostly.

Take a look at most mammals, especially ones we're related to.

In nature, the alpha assumes his role, because he doesn't hesitate. The alpha lion doesn't ask himself "Am I king? Should I sit on the throne?"; he simply goes over there and sits there, kills the other male lion (and all the babies), then mates with all the female lions. He assumes the role, because he doesn't hesitate in the fight; that's the sole criteria for the current natural selection of male lions, that the male lion is a non-hesitant fighter, that he's physically superior yet also loyal to the pride. Unlike the solitary tiger. lions have adapted a group mentality, because of natural conditioning. Humans, likewise, have a similar group mentality.

In human society, when someone makes a claim like "I am king", it's put through an easy test. The person making the claim is judged by how confident they are in the claim, and it is tested against other claims of the same nature. Obviously, law would obviate any such claim. But back then, saying "I am chief" would have profound consequences. If one does inherit the chiefly role, it's not like they get to do whatever they want; their honour is in the fulfillment of their expectations, and it feels good to have honour; the chief would have kept his honour as a "good chief", and would always try to live up to the historical standards. This led to dynastic rule, but the same principle applied; all monarchs were essentially good monarchs, because they were no different than the blacksmith or farmer in the expectation of their role; everyone had a role to play, even a king.

genes aka bloodlines aka racism
nothing to do with actual superiority or excellence

Land owning rich people

Last time I checked Trump is not a nig.

>rich
There we go again. See

OP didn't ask for the definition of nobility

It's not the origin of nobility either. Nobles were the most powerful, not necessarily the richest people.

The 'concept' of nobility comes from the long term establishment of local elites. It's simply an evolution of a group's law and society to accommodate already existing political entities. The basic chain as to how early man split into nobles and non-nobles is generally as follows:

>Group of tribals
>Tribal chain of command is decided by a combination of both who is most useful to the tribe and who can get other to do what they say; either through their strength, guile or charisma
>Tribal chief needs guys to enforce what he says the tribe should do and to fight with him
>Tribal chief rewards his fighters with land, booty, preferential treatment etc
>Rest of tribe does what chief and his men say because they have a monopoly on power
>As the tribe grows and micro economies are established the chief needs help managing his people and so gives authority to do so to his fighters, now administrators as well
>When one of these strongmen die his son or relative takes his place - being born into their position of power rather than having to fight for it
>As generations pass people follow the now established way in which the tribe runs because it's all they've ever known
>As the tribe grows in organization the social order is codified officially by law

>As the realm's economy develops further the wealth gap between the political elites grows further and further due to them owning the means of producing said wealth
>Such disparity in wealth and products available to elites compared to rest of population results in elites forming their own subculture within the tribe
>Elites are now firmly separated from the rest of the population by law, wealth, economic leverage and a monopoly on violence
>Nobility is thus firmly established and entrenched

Trump was pretty handsome as a young man.

Discount Paul Dano

>all this Historical materialism ITT