What are the biggest causes of American stagnation right now?

Only in 2017 do people believe that twatter shitposting is indicative of US policy

I hate this generation and everything that spawns from it, including and especially you.

It's partly pharma's fault as well. Throughout the 90s they conducted a massive PR campaign about how people in pain "deserved" these newly found opioid medications, and that doctors who didn't dole them out were scum for "allowing" their patient to suffer. Obviously the docs are somewhat responsible but it goes deeper than them just lazily prescribing

Those tweets are his own words. If he believes those words, he's an anti-American, and if he doesn't, he's a liar and a fraud.

>Economy
We're clawing our way out of the biggest recession since the Great Depression. Did you honestly think "fixing it" was going to happen overnight?
>Fatter and fatter
Blame the corporations for cutting corners by putting sugar into every single thing we eat, and feeding us GMOs with tons of preservatives in them rather than letting us have ready access to raw organic options (at AFFORDABLE prices).
>Crime
Exacerbated by the moron we just elected into office. We've been rioting for a while now, but when people start to think no ones even listening, they'll ramp it up by committing crimes in the name of that cause. Americans think they're "protesting" when they commit those crimes, and even though they're doing it for a good cause their statistics pad the crime rate overall and politicians use that to scare us into voting for their legislation.
>child abandonment
Sources desperately needed.
>rights
Sources needed here too. The ACLU has sued our President twice for literally violating the rights of American citizens.
>Privacy and property rights
Blame our paranoid watchdog mentality. Americans are so scared that something MIGHT happen, that when something DOES happen they see it as justification for owning the guns that they shoot each others children with. And politicians use that paranoia to scare us into backing the kinds of bills that gave rise to the Patriot Act (which is the law they use to justify tapping our phones, sending our data to whoever the fuck, and monitoring our online habits "for advertising purposes").

If we want to fix any of this, we've got to stop falling for fear mongering and possibly collapse the value of the American dollar. Money rules everything in this country, but money is causing all of these problems.

>I think everything people post on twitter should be 100% factual

Only in 2017!

Also the biggest problem facing our country right now is how fucking stupid Americans are when it comes to strategy. Its been proven that another country hacked your election, or interfered with it at the very least. They want you divided, and you faggots took the bait hook line and sinker. Now you're attacking each other over your ages. Something that neither side can fix, and something that constantly divides us and makes us easier to control.

But we're too fucking stupid to realize that we're being manipulated so we keep yelling at each other over some generational divide we've concocted in our minds thats really boiling down to "old people don't like young people so lets fight about it".

Lol, stop believing the conspiracy theories you see on CNN. There is NO evidence that Russia had any influence on the election.

The real issue is that dumbass liberals like yourself will believe any lie just because talking heads on the screen said it was true. Fuck the Lugenpresse

>It's been proven

Pot, meet kettle.

Oh yeah I forgot.

The average American who generally cannot afford a college education knows more about national security than their own national security agencies and yet somehow those national security agents still have their goddamn jobs, being as "inept" as everyone seems to think they are.

The problem is a cultural one at this point. Our culture leads little snowflakes like you to believe that you know more than anyone else could possibly know, and that your experience trumps everyone elses because you're the center of your tiny little universe and the bottom line is that that's not how the world works.

>NO PROOF
>extensive proof posted online in public domain
>SHILLS KEK DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU SEE
>B-BUT PROOF AND SOURCES PLZ

Just..

Fucking lol, how is it possible to still be this butthurt over the election? There is no evidence for any foreign influence on the election.

The real issue is uncritical thinkers like yourself who believe anything that perceived "authority" tells you. You are a sheep.

Show me the proof then.

Also, what is your opinion on Democratic election-rigging?

Since when is America stagnant. We've been advancing technology nonstop and we're about to get a new government

>Vote for Hillary
Stupid fucking snowflake sheep
>Vote Trump
Stupid fucking snowflake sheep
>Vote third party/don't vote
Stupid fucking snowflake sheep

Lol Constitution became meaningless by the mid 19th century. Remember when the Jeffersonians and Hamiltonians were debating whether building a national library was constitutional or not?

you are fake news

America has enemies apparently, and the best thing those enemies could hope for is that we divide ourselves thus making us easier to conquer. We're fighting and shooting each other in the streets, and Russia/ISIL/whoever is laughing their asses off because we're doing their dirty work FOR them without even realizing it. As far as rigging, I think it was designed to make us lose faith in our government completely, and that's exactly what happened.

>le Russia is le big bad boogeyman meme
They literally have nothing to gain. Anyway, you still don't have any evidence.

I wonder, save for the civil war, if America has ever been this divided. It feels like we've reached a point where we just treat the other side like literal enemies of the country. It's ridiculous. It made me realize how based those dumb normies who don't talk politics are. This is ridiculous

>inb4 it's entirely the other side's fault we are the true heroes

>No proof that it was rigged
>No proof that Russia was the one that gave wikileaks the emails
>Proof the CIA has and does hack other country's communications, including emails

Hillary was still a terrible candidate, blue collar workers in Pennsylvania and Ohio were not gonna be heavily swayed by Russia news and weren't voting for Trump based on the fact that he was a loudmouth celebrity against Washington.

Stop getting mad at Russia and get mad at your primary system that made it so the the black conservative democrats all voted for Hillary before anyone knew shit about Bernie Sanders. Blame it on the fact that you had shitty slogans like "I'm with her" and the godawful "it's her turn"

Trump says "FAKE NEWS, SHILLS PAID TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION, NO EVIDENCE KEK" and you faggots parrot it back to him like schoolchildren reciting their lessons.
>and I'm the "uncritical" thinker

So give us the evidence then. Shouldn't be so difficult.

America is actually pretty terrible though

Tbf some US bungling in the matter of national security and defense are such that yeah, average Joe would have given a better answer.

War of 1812 and the 60's were more devided.

Creeping socialism.

Everyone turns to the government to fix their problems. The people know what they want and they scream at the government to do it. The government has an insentive to stimulate this as well. They want everyone to believe that the government is a all-powerful noble being that lesser mortals cannot possibly understand. They want people not to believe in what the government is doing, but in government itself.

Culturally, the idea that the government can do anything is deeply ingrained. Nevermind if the goals are contridictory or if they are not possible, anything that disrupts the view of the all-powerful noble government is dismissed.

As the cultural socialism continues to fail, people will insist that the problem isn't too much government interference but not enough. Is it really any wonder why the US elected someone whose only principle seems to 'government control for government controls sake'?

A departure from free market capitalism.

>You don't support Hillary, thus you support Trump
They're both terrible

>good goy, trust the judgements of the same people who brought you MKUltra and 24/7 spying!

This is true.

See, you didn't even read my post. You just foamed at the mouth to call out an evil enemy of the country. I don't give a fuck what the idiots do in D.C.. I've moved as far away from the volatile nightmare in the east. I'm stockpiling weapons, fixing up self sufficient systems. To be honest, I think this country needs to fall apart for any chance of a future for liberty to shine.

us-cert.gov/security-publications/GRIZZLY-STEPPE-Russian-Malicious-Cyber-Activity
There is no point to posting the same link over and over again, waiting for you faggots to admit that it might prove a thing or two. You're asking me to softball in a rebuttal for you, so you can attack the source rather than actually form a coherent argument. It doesn't matter what I link you to, you won't believe it for this reason or that reason. But here it is, the link everyones given to you that "doesn't prove anything kek xD shill libtard we won cry harder".

And
>nothing to gain
Fucking hilarious.
>if they had something to gain, they'd be advertising it for all of us to see
That lack of "political strategy" is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't see the bigger picture. inb4 you ask me what they have to gain. I also don't know, but why would they waste those resources for shits and giggles? A critical thinker would realize that.

>Obama says he going to stop what bush did
>Builds upon his spy network on US citizens

>Trump says he wants to build even more on the spy network
Could this possibly mean Trump isn't going to spy on Americans?

>defensespending.jpg

What a fucking waste. There's not a single thing you can list that is more of a drain on our society. Maybe social security? But that doesn't kill people as well as drain the treasury.

>astronomical amounts of money spent on "defense"
>get humiliated by arabs using decades-old arms

>Trump runs against the establishment
>establishment says he's a puppet
>SEE I TOLD YOU TRUMP WAS HITLER

I personally don't care if Trump really is Russian plant or some other liberal conspiracy theory bullshit
The fact that he pisses off degenerates and everyone thats represents everything thats wrong with America is enough reason to do it
Either US become great again or burn it all with no survivors

>1st post
NO EVIDENCE KEK READ A BOOK UR DUMB.
>2nd post
PROOF THEN KEK
>3rd post
Nothing but name calling.

I did read your post. The problem, kiddo, is that they're not saying anything. If you're upset that I didn't parrot back your message to you, you should change the message instead of calling me names like a kid at recess.

>hates the idea of government spending
>singles out social programs rather than defense

What a schmuck.

Trump always confused me there. A less global and more isolationist America would be able to cut down defense spending, but instead he's boosting it. Don't we spend more on that than education and health spending in all 50 states combined (or something like that)? Made me feel like a war machine than an actual nation.

>then Trump gives the entire establishment promotions once hes elected
You fucked up, kid. This autistic screeching is the only thing you have to defend an administration who's literally done everything Hillary did and more
>in less than 2 months

>>Trump runs against the establishment

>he thinks there's a single difference between political and business elites

Point at him. Point at him and laugh.

Defense needs a cut, social security needs to not exist entirely.

>burn it all with no survivors
>American politics
So in other words, if you can't get your way then no one can? And everyone else are the crybabies?

The MIC and the inflated defense sector which has wasted 10 trillion dollars (and counting) on retarded wars in sand land

You have responded to one post of mine. This is it.
You are still beating a straw man, even after I've already called you out.

You don't do well on IQ tests do you? Then again understanding patterns and logic is a social construct

There is no evidence that the leaks were from Russia and there is evidence that intelligence agencies always hack each other's communications and were in fact designed to do just that.

So we know the emails were leaked, but you can't prove that it was the Russians who did it as that technology is known to many people within the government, outside the government and affiliated with foreign governments.

Because we are. We've been in some kind of conflict for the last decade+ of our lives. After a while, war became an industry that we relied on for income.

The entire govt has been taken over by the MIC. No President can ever actually be less "global" no matter how much they want to

>ur dumb kek
>no evidence kek cant prove it whatsoever and even if you could, they do it to each other all the time big fucking deal
>still cant prove it kek

I'm sorry was that your attempt at "substance"? Insults and repeating the same generic rebuttal over and over again expecting me to react differently next time around?

>tfw you voted Trump because you believe it will hasten the fracturing of the country
I'm pretty sure people like me are the real silent majority.

Liberals don't run on logic, they run on emotions. Don't expect an argument out of him, just typical "lmao this is 4chen I do wut I want XD" shitflinging.

hilarious.

Not him or anyone you've replied to, but I've heard this insult from both sides probably hundreds of times now. It doesn't even mean anything to me anymore

ITT you reinforce the divide even further while bitching about how divided we are.

>liberals v. republicans.
>millennials v. boomers
Everything is red team vs. blue team, and you suck each others dicks when you find someone on the same team as you. This is what constitutes political debate in your mind.

>being a literal traitor

kill yourself.

What the fuck are you trying to prove? I'm baffled. If you're trolling me, you're doing pretty good. I'm saying as an American, no matter who I voted for, I'm fucked. You will call me a "snowflake" or a "sheep" to feel better because I'm not on your team, even when I just don't want to play. You can forgot my oh so confusing post and just respond to what I'm saying here.
>vote Trump
Fucking traitor fascist retard sheep
>Vote Hillary
Fucking traitor liberal tyrant sheep idiot
>Vote Johnson
Fucking idiot waste stoner roads
>Don't vote
Fucking useless sheep lazy millennial

The choice is between slow painful death and a rebirth
If it were the choice, Its better for the west to destruct quickly so it can start anew rather than to degenerate itself further to deeper shithole

>wanting this country fractured
That's the most un-American thing you could possibly do, you fucking traitor.

No matter who I voted for I'm literally a traitor. See my post here

>insinuates he runs on logic
>proceeds with at least two logical fallacies in the next 15 words

Pottery.

It wasn't the vote itself, it was the reason for voting. Seriously, just put a gun in your mouth. Why wait for muh civil war?

>implying we COULD start anew after a total economic collapse

The entire country hates the GOP, and the GOP is running the show right now. Some of us even want Obama back. If we DO manage to rebuild, that's not going to go the way you think it will.

>Founding fathers, why don't you just put your musket in your mouths? Why wait for muh revolushun

>the government gives a flying fuck about the comforting lies you told yourselves while casting your ballot

A vote is a vote, and no ones reading into WHY you voted for that person. There is no "voting in protest", theres just voting or not voting.

America's been in decline since we elected Madison

Neck yourself m8

Why vote to prolong a dying empire? A clean death is better than this slide into being another dictatorship. Trump is America's ghost of Christmas yet to come. You want to give the president more power? Make the central government stronger? Spy deeper? Now we get to see what someone unstable does with the power. Maybe this will shock the American people into remembering what liberty or death means. Or maybe it will all go to shit.

You have no evidence either, my whole point is that what you have is not evidence.

>omg kek zozzle did you even read my post lol ur dumb read a book xD
That's seriously what you sound like right now. You asked for proof, I gave it to you, you ignored it and now you're bitching that I never posted proof in the first place. Pic related.

>Voting for president
>Not writing in other name and voting on shit that isn't a reality TV show

Vermin Supreme 2020

What you gave me isn't proof. Just because my hair is wet doesn't mean it's raining.

>tfw the post that contains the proof also contains the phrase "it doesn't matter what I link you to, you won't believe it for this reason or that reason"
>tfw you're linking to the document that officially confirmed another country interfered in our democratic process

(cont)
Check this out, now he'll start implying that I never even READ the document I just linked him to, and that if I DID read it I'd know that it "proves nothing kek". It'll be a goddamn hoot.

But user, it's okay when Clinton interferes with the Democratic process, cheating her way to the head of the DNC. Why isn't it okay for Russia to simply look at some documents? What does the DNC have to hide?

Either they hacked and released the emails, or they didn't. Stay on topic, unless you're admitting that Russians did interfere in our democratic process. You can't have it both ways. You can't screech that the document proves nothing, and then turn around and claim that the process WAS hacked but it's not that big of a goddamn deal because "what does the DNC have to hide lol?" Pick one.

>cheating her way to the DNC
kek can't prove it
>Clinton interferes with process
kek can't prove it.
>tfw members of the Trump administration have been under fite for using private email servers to conduct state business and lying about it under oath

But tell me again how Hillary Clinton is literally Satan for doing the same fucking thing.