Refute this

why do dumb nigger leftists always compare video games and Harry Potter to irl situations

powerups are equivalent to getting a lucky break (hired for a job you weren't really qualified for, winning something in a raffle/casino, you make a new friend randomly and he's very generous to you)

those have a far greater impact on poor people's lives than a rich persons.

it applies to companies and industries as well. i don't see what the argument is supposed to be. the type of powerup doesn't determine who wins, and in mariokart all that matters is who wins.

"i need to reference video games and movies for my understanding of the world" millennials need to move to africa and dig a grave for themselves.

Should Lebron James have to play with a hand behind his back? Should the best F1 driver have a speed limit cap? Should the smartest motherfucker in the classroom have a grade handicap?

lol Veeky Forums cant even form a coherent argument against this

capitalism is a scam, you are not smarter than a collage professor and you dont work harder than a garbage man and you think you deserve more money?

savor your crypto gains now because people are wising up to the capitalism scam

Spotted the idiot who never seen instagram models

Whores will always be whores

You're an idiot

The closer you are the the top the more tax breaks and tax avoidance methods you have to exploit

Poor people don't have access to Swiss bank accounts and high class weaseling lawyers

You're out of touch with the reality of the situation, and you're the one getting fucked in the ass for it. Stop defending billionaires you literally money cuck

Familiarity. Relating is how John Oliver and Stephen Colbert teach them things.

>fucked in the ass because of swiss bank accounts holding onto X amount of potential tax dollars

1. do you even know the sum of money that "should" be going to taxes but isn't?
2. do you have any fucking clue how tax revenue is spent in your country?
3. how is the method of paying taxes like getting a fucking powerup? maybe you meant something about nepotism or spending money to make money, but even those memes have nothing to do with how much easier it is to change your lifestyle if you are lower on the ladder.

You're an idiot and you clearly did not understand the pic in the OP

"Powerups" are tax evasion techniques pure and simple

OP is gay.

>collage
Kek
Go away elitist retard commie
Please tell me a system that has produced more wealth in human history, including more for the poor people, tha capitalism.
If you make over 36000 usd a year you are in the top 1% of the world. Please realize how good you have it, complaining that someone else has more than you even though you're in literally one of the best positions in human history short of being an emperor, even if you're middle class American, makes you a petty and whiny bitch.
Go eat dirt and tree bark in communist China/USSR /Cuba/Venezuela

crabs in a bucket

Are you really whining because the billionaire pays 200 million in tax instead of 400 million one year? He gifts more wealth every year to the country than you will produce in a hundred lifetimes.
Stay poor faggot, envy will get you nowhere. Be grateful to the 1% for paying 45% of all income tax every year.

But i still win in mario kart most of the time??? lol

Fine, but I always:

>pick toad in 64

>pick baby mario/luigi and knows how to tech out of blue shells in Double Dash

I'm sure if I played the newer ones I could figure it out too, good thread, OP.

Or you could study economics and realize you don't understand shit and your solutions would just make everything worse...

their IQs are too low to attempt to understand complex things so they have to relate it to fantasy worlds made for children

punished for being competent and successful.

>closer to first place
>pick up a random powerup
>it's usually a little bit less influential to your position/time than the random powerup of someone behind you
>this is how tax evasion works

Eat shit, Panjeep.

>Be grateful to the 1%

kys

They literally pull 45 times their weight as far as income tax goes. If the one percent disappeared everyone taxes would have to double. Be grateful, and someday join them.
You're full of shit if you don't want to be in the 1%,so just admit you're jealous.
The whole concept of "the 1%" and "the 99%" is textbook Marxist and Alinskyite division tactics to weaken our society. Don't fall for the meme user, they by and large produce wealth, they never took it from you - they created it.

The income tax and payroll tax account for about 80% of all US revenue, and the majority of that money is made by the average wagie burger cuck. The 1% probably does not even account for 4.5% of all tax revenue, let alone 45%. Don't even get me started on the corporate taxes. A measley 10% of US revenue, when they hold probably 90% of the wealth. These jews are able to weasel themselves out of paying taxes through subsidiaries in tax havens such as the British Virgin Islands or the Cayman Islands. Goldman Sachs has a subsidiary in the Cayman Islands, and they don't even have a single office down there. They literally use them solely for tax evasion, this is indisputable. However, nobody cares because the same jews who run that company also run the government, and they know that shitheads like you and the rest of the dumb burgers are too stupid and lazy to do anything about it. They don't even attempt to hide it. Yet here they are, having dumb fucks like you praising the 1%. Honestly, just go put a fucking bullet in your brain. Use your bitcoin to order a gun off the Alphabay market. Make sure you order it domestically as it is a lot less likely to be searched. Then once it comes in, load up the gun and just blast a bullet straight through your head. Leave a note donating all your money to the 1% and asking them to bury you. Then all your relatives can watch as they take away your body and throw into some ditch.

I think you are misguided user, and I also think we agree on more than you seem to believe, I understand you on the Jewish thing. A lot of the one percent are just regular people who you wouldn't know are in it. You are falling big time for the Jewish division tactics to divide us. George Soros funded the occupy wall street movement. (((he))) makes his money by causing civil unrest and eroding the value of our dollar, that's why he funded black lives matter and now all this impeach Trump bullshit. He did the same thing with the British pound. This Kike will happily ruin lives and weaken a society for profit, but ironically it is he, the 1% of the 1% of the 1% who benefits from the vitriol aimed at the 1%,as that weakens our country.
Look at any decent sized successful company, the owner is likely in the 1% and probably just like me and you. I work in construction and know my boss and subcontractors who work with us's boss are technically in the 1%, but they're just like me and you and not part of the (((conspiracy))).

Also this:
cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-pay-nearly-half-of-federal-income-taxes.html

If you are very ambitious and work toward it, you can end up in the top 1% or near it. Then you'll get to pay 40% or more in taxes and you'll get to listen to everyone bitch about how greedy you are.
Think of how fucked up a 40% tax rate is, that means assuming you work five days a week, two of those days you are a slave and it is illegal for you to reap the fruits of your labor. That is fucked up.

But user, without the tax revenue from the rich, who will pay for welfare for lazy niggers and white trash, useless foreign wars, and muh roads?

This.
>ask a loaded question/statement
>use Reddit image
>acquire (You's) as something more valuable than actual moneys
What a sad, sad nigger.

Roads are supposed to be funded by the gas tax. I actually like the gas tax, the more you drive the more you pay for the roads. I feel like we could spend half of what we do now and only the leeches would notice

>corporate tax starts dipping at the start of the 80s

t-thanks reagan

Thank you user

These fucking JewCucks are pathetic

I can't believe that Veeky Forums of all places is literally shilling for the 1%. You fucking pathetic losers, it's so unbelievably obvious that you just literally should kill yourself

But these retarded Trump voters associate high taxes on the rich with "libs" so they don't support it. And we're not even talking about "high" taxes on the rich, we're talking about taxes on the rich vs. basically no taxes through their evasion instruments

They're LITERALLY getting away with murder, because their lack of support for the US government takes away from healthcare funds which kills people

1%cucking is the worst kind, worse than people wanting to be cucked by coalburners "Lol they contrinbute more dick length suckage to society so they deserve benefits" KILL YOURSELVES

did we ever say we gave a fuck about your health or our own?

no motherfucker. you are all gonna suffer

literally kill yourself you fucking commie. Or even better, stop living on welfare and get a fucking job.

also this:>look at any decent sized successful company, the owner is likely in the 1% and probably just like me and you. I work in construction and know my boss and subcontractors who work with us's boss are technically in the 1%, but they're just like me and you and not part of the (((conspiracy))).

remember to put "sage" in the options field or you bump the thread. Once you go /pol/ you never go back.

I have a better job than you you fucking cuck

I am not a "commie" for wanting to remove fucking tax loopholes for the 1%

Your position is so intellectually indefensible that I can't even believe you're legitimate. You're clearly extremely stupid and uninformed, sorry.

kys commie

Because they have some compelling arguments

>I have a better job than you you fucking cuck

I bet you i make more money than you, commie cuck.

>I am not a "commie" for wanting to remove fucking tax loopholes for the 1%

I dont agree with tax loopholes just like i dont agree with very high taxes for the rich to make the gov. bigger. The gov. isnt your freaking nanny.

>Your position is so intellectually indefensible that I can't even believe you're legitimate. You're clearly extremely stupid and uninformed, sorry.

Projecting much, huh?

I'd rather the front page be half NGR coin and bleeding wojack threads than /pol/-bait. I like /pol/ but we already have it. It's called /pol/.
>sage

So you have trained yourself to hate wealthy people and apparently not want to amass wealth yourself and somehow you are out smarting the Jews??? Really think for a while about that. They want you to just stay poor and hate wealth while they take it all. You are a contradiction.

Fuck off, commie.

I hope you donate every penny you have extra to the government or else you are literally murdering people user. Would hate for you to be a hypocrite

If Mario Kart was realistic, the person with the most coins would reach the moon by the end of the race and all the item-plebs would be slaving away at their 9 to 5s

I think you are very naive as to what the one percent is. Only a very small percentage of the one percent avoid taxes. I'm sure you know people in the one percent, whether you're aware of it or not. Do you really think one out of every hundred people is involved in a big conspiracy against you? YOU ARE FALLING FOR THE JEWISH Tricks now be a good goy and go to a protest so (((Soros)) can make a few hundred million by shorting the dollar.
cnbc.com/2015/04/13/top-1-pay-nearly-half-of-federal-income-taxes.html

Income tax wasn't even always at thing.

Always interesting to see these millennials compare extremely complex topics (such as economy, taxation, redistribution of wealth, government policy, etc.) to something only their feeble minds can understand: pop culture references.

I don't even really care about the top 1%, I care about the top 0.1% who make indefensibly large amounts of money, largely by exploiting cheap labor due to a lack of job competition, or by utilizing technologies invented by people long dead. And what they all hold in common is that they exploit tax evasion loopholes which the rich lobby to keep in place

You can all feel free to disagree, but you're just temporary embarrassed billionaires in your minds and it's pathetic. You identify more with billionaires than the common man who actually generates the wealth for these corporations

Very true. Before the Civil War it was mostly taxes on exports from the south. This is one of the big, forgotten, reasons for the war. The South was tired of paying for Northern factories with the taxes off southern cotton exports.
History is written by the winners, and never as clean cut as it seems looking back.

Did you know Trump is LITERALLY like Voldemort and Bernie is, like, Harry Potter?

Points for Gryffindor!

Why is the argument "lets pull the 1% down to the 99%" instead of "lets pull the 99% up to the 1%"
You dont have to take wealth from A to give to B. Wealth is not zero sum, you dumdums

the rich and beautiful shall inherit the earth.

Income tax was made in 1913, the same year the federal reserve was founded. Here's another little secret, the federal reserve is privately owned. Look it up

In their position would you not use any legal means possible to pay as little tax as you can? Then you can use the savings to donate to a cause you believe in more than our bloated government.
It's hard to blame them for using the means they can to pay less, only a fool wouldn't. Blame should be placed on spineless politicians who won't change those rules.

Exactly. The entire concept of trade, what our economy is based on, is that it isn't a zero sum game.
A zero sum game is called conquest or theft, and it is illegal.

This
And how are people still not pissed about the gold confiscation that went to the federal reserve?

user, it's not about blame, it's about the situation and whether it should be fixed

Of course I don't blame the businesses for doing as much as they can to lower their tax burden. Of course they're going to do it, and of course it's entirely the politicians' fault for this situation being in place right now

But I DO blame the corporations for lobbying to keep these tax loopholes open. I DO blame these rich influential people for exerting financial power over politicians to keep them open. They are not innocent little angels who just happen to be good at filing their taxes, these are not benevolent rich people who are just doing their best to keep up with all the other businesses who are doing it too - some of them (and please do note that I specified "some"), as I said, exert their power on politicians and are therefore bad actors who should be blamed

I'm still pissed. That is an absolutely insane part of our history that is so often overlooked. Literally the punishment was ten years in jail for keeping some shiny yellow metal in your house. Fuck FDR.

>I don't even really care about the top 1%, I care about the top 0.1% who make indefensibly large amounts of money, largely by exploiting cheap labor due to a lack of job competition, or by utilizing technologies invented by people long dead. And what they all hold in common is that they exploit tax evasion loopholes which the rich lobby to keep in place

Well, guess what? Evading taxes doesnt mean we have to get even more taxes, ok? We just need to better enforce our current laws and loopholes.
>You can all feel free to disagree, but you're just temporary embarrassed billionaires in your minds and it's pathetic. You identify more with billionaires than the common man who actually generates the wealth for these corporations.

You are really thin in the commie line here. You are almost saying that the owner of the bussiness didn't do anything which is wrong. I bet you also want people to pay outrageous inheritance taxes because "they didnt make that wealth". FUCK THAT. It's my money, not the gov's money and IF I WORKED MY DAMN ASS OFF ALL MY LIFE, i should get to decide who gets that effort, not the freaking gov.

The death tax is absurd. You give half your income to the government every year, then when you die you're supposed to give half of what's left to them also. Taxes were already paid on that money. End up losing 75% of your wealth.

If you want to misrepresent everything I'm saying and respond to your own misrepresentations, go right ahead

But I won't bother responding because it only fuels your fallacious argumentative techniques. There's a reason nobody takes you people seriously

There's a reason you will be poor your whole life - because you blame others for your shortcomings.

Sort Yourself Out

No arguments, im pleased.

FDR and Wilson were both faggot fucks.
Wilson for Federal reserve + unconstitutional income tax, and FDR for social security and a bunch of other shit

I'm not poor and I don't blame anyone for "my shortcomings". I'm not asking for anything more for myself personally, I'm asking for the top 0.1% to pay their fair share of taxes according to our progressive tax rate instead of disproportionately being capable of exploiting more loopholes than poor people

I'm asking for our public education system to get the funding that it deserves and for our infrastructure to be rebuilt. This requires tax revenue, and rich people are NOT paying their fair share percentage-wise.

Why would I attempt to refute your rambling that does not respond to any of my points and instead responds to some manufactured communist and "I want free money" stuff that you think I'm saying but I'm not?

Apparently Wilson was extremely power hungry and dictatorial

This isnt making me money.
The point of biz is making money.
Take this shit to pol
P.S. if you truly believed this shit you wouldnt be arguing with random fucks online about it to justify your self doubts.

Public education is NOT FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. It's funded by states and districts, generally through property tax, which the rich pay a fuckton of because they have big homes.

And roads are paid for by the Gas Tax, not income tax.

Try again

You can lap people in mk

leftypol go away faggot nigger

How does that refute anything I've said? Corporations have to pay state corporate income tax and roads are not the only form of infrastructure

You're promoting corporate welfare you literal jewcuck

>You want the mega rich to pay more taxes
>I say, no, just eliminate loopholes and enforce current taxes (they will end up paying more than now because they evade now) which is more than enought and that prevents them to want to evade even more.

Any arguments?

>muh fair share
you know """fair""" is completely arbitrary, don't you?
and by coincidence, """fair""" always means """more"""

>refute this

Because it only works in a closed system and we dont live in a closed system.

"Power Ups" are used to attract businesses and economic development remove those and the businesses will go else where.

Accordingly you will either have to deal with poverty that comes with this or start using violence and force which kills economic development and spooks investors like nothing else short of unconpensated sizure

Fuck off Ahmed.

Castlevania's "Find roasted meat hidden in a wall, to fully heal yourself" system is an ideal model for how healthcare should work

Fair always means more for them, but less for me. It's a very interestingly specific word

funny how "fair" turns to "share" turns to "steal

No it simply means "follow the tax code"

Plenty of billionaires think the rich should pay more too, like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet

Are they just poorfags wanting "them" to pay more?

welfare is immoral and unnatural.

Then why do you support corporate welfare?

Why do you support Apple LITERALLY paying 0.05% taxes? How do you support that?

Please justify this, if you have some big complex socioeconomic justification I'd LOVE to hear it, but I don't think you do - I think all you have is a partisan viewpoint fed to you by politicians

paying their fair share wouldn't change a single thing. you'd just have more bonuses for a handful of govt employees.

also, a lot of the "loopholes" are just investments of their choosing. they wouldn't be billionaires if they thought it smart to store a bunch of money every year in a vault.

also, the culture around "muh loops and exploits" is not dependent on the rich, it depends on how the government operates and how those poor little faggots under them negotiate their salaries/deals with big business. nobody here is arguing that the government should not investigate tax evasion. there is just no justification from your end on redrawing the line for where rich people should be taxed. you're just emotional about it because you think they are doing something wrong by being rich.

be happy that at least 30% of our tax revenue goes back into our research, infrastructure, and security. that's a win in a world where everybody who chooses to be in government points fingers and pockets money.

EDIT: Sorry Apple paid 0.005% taxes, not 0.05%. Extra zero after the decimal place.

Justify it or fuck off Jew cucks

That's not the argument dipshit. The argument is more "Make it easier to reach the top, but hard to stay up".

You say "let's pull up the 99% up to the 1%" yet do the exact opposite of that. Trump gives tax cuts to the rich saving them hundreds of billion of dollars while killing the social safety net, thus helping the 1% while shitting on the 99%.

The 99% exist to make money for the 1%, it is only fair those 1% give some of that money back.

I see what you're saying, I'm sure there are a lot of somewhat ordinary people in the 1% who got there just by being smart and working hard. These are not the people I'm referring to, they are getting cucked even harder than we are. People like the man you referred to, the shareholders of the federal reserve, the rothschilds and goldbergs, the people running companies like apple and goldman sachs, these jews are the real enemy. They are the ones who steal our money and then use it to oppress us

>you dont work harder than a garbage man
bc how hard you work matters? Know how I know you're poor?

>The 99% exist to make money for the 1%
this is the way it's has always been, and will always be
most people are worthless breeders

>this is the way it's has always been, and will always be
Fallacious appeal to tradition. You could say the same thing about plenty of outdated and inhumane systems, like monarchical governments and feudalism. It doesn't make it right

>doesn't make it right
nothing is "right", and morality is a subjective human construct
also, appeal to tradition doesn't apply 100%- it's not a "tradition" because we've always done it, but a natural occurrence due to the discrepancy of human drive, intelligence, and will to power.
Less "it was that way in the past so it should be that way in the future for no reason except that's how it was in the past", more "it was that way in the past for a reason, and that reason still exists today since it's a part of the human condition"

now, GET THIS SHIT OFF BIZ

also, i'm a monarchist. democracy is a false god.
saged

AAPL employs lots of millenials cucks as "geniuses" in cushy gay mall jobs. Why are you berniefags suddenly worried about corporate tax rates? Corp tax is different from employer portion of income tax.

You do realize Apple has billions of dollars sitting offshore to avoid getting taxed right? If there were more tax holidays to allow companies to bring profits back into the US without tax penalty, then those billions could get spent in the US. More construction in the US, more equipment capital investment in the US. Politicians rubbing their hands together to tax that money for bigger govt spending are not looking out for your interests any more than an Apple executive is and youre delusional if you think they are. That money will get taxed and spent on another stealth bomber when it should be spent IN the US.

You're so fucking idealistic

"If the government gave Apple, a company paying 0.005% taxes, even MORE tax breaks, they'd start spending more money and it would all trickle down to us!"

You're a literal cuck, a faggot saying "Well I'll let Jamal fuck my wife because at least I get to enjoy seeing her naked for once! See, the benefits trickle down to me!"

You're a pathetic loser supporting these 0.01%ers