Why were so many great cities, especially in the Middle East and North Africa destroyed and abandoned? Why didn't invading forces resettle the cities?
Why were so many great cities, especially in the Middle East and North Africa destroyed and abandoned...
Jace Richardson
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Jacob Wilson
Islam destroyed classical civilizations and brought Europe into the dark ages.
Ian Green
Climate change and earthquake storms starting 1200bc
Levi Robinson
are you this dumb
Evan Cox
He is right.
Ryan Campbell
No, Islam just killed what was already dying. If these places were anything other than moribund, a handful of desert tribesman with no knowledge of siege warfare and hardly any civilization to speak of would not have devoured them all so fast. Islam only destroys what will be destroyed anyways
is correct however
William Watson
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islam butchered its way through MENA, wiping out christians and jews. they destroyed the byzantine greaco-roman and persian culture in the levant as well.
the mudslimes controlled the medittereanian, this put a strain on trade and economy, plunging europe into the "dark ages"
Benjamin Hall
Climate changes fucked North Africa hard. Many cities became unsustainable, because their water supply dried out or they simply lost their strategic or economical value.
Samuel Brown
Muslims fucked up the climate.
North-Africa used to be fertile land.
Nathaniel Nguyen
No actually the Christians in the ME and Egypt (being Miaphysites) were getting oppressed and taxed heavily by Byzantine Chalcedonians which is why they all ran to Islam because hey, no more debts. Not to mention that Christianity was just dumb and had really lost the plot by that point
Nolan Thomas
Muslims kinda did mess up north africa it's difficult to deny that, how they handled the place was unsustainable
David Jenkins
>religion of peace
Carson Davis
What kind of temple was that?
Ayden Gutierrez
>what is Jizya tax?
Parker Campbell
Which Muslims don't have to pay. Most also converted. They knew Christianity was just a joke at that point.
Logan Clark
>Christianity was just a joke
t. Mohamed Abdul Fadil Al-Shitskiniyya
Jesus is the Way, Truth and the Life.
Elijah Gray
Which Jesus? The half-man half-god? The man who subsumed God? The God as Man? The Man as Son? The Son as Father? The Holy Ghost as all the above? The Three who are One but not? Please tell me which Jesus is the "Way"?
Camden Morales
Islamic economy was based for most of its history in:
1) Booty from raids in infidel lands
2) Heavy taxation, including many unlawful taxes (e.g., qati, qabala)
3) An irrigation-based agriculture in the hands of the caliph/emir/sultan, which usually claimed the non-arable lands for himself
Muslims did not have a reason to keep and develop cities beyond the one the caliph/emir/sultan inhabited and when these rulers moved their court, the former capital was often bound to decay and even disappear.
Brody Williams
>earthquake storms
These aren't real right?
Right?
Sebastian Bailey
>what is Jizya tax?
A tax on non-Muslims standardised under in around 640AD. 4 gold coins a year for the wealthy, 2 for the middle class and one for a working man.
I'm sure the Jews and Miaphysites of Alexandria and Egypt as a whole would've e preferred paying this tax over persecution from the Byzantine authorities and frequent sectarian violence that frequently erupted in mixed faith communities under the Byzantines.
Owen Roberts
quite simple, the former fertile ground which these cities had relied on had become too salted, or poor to grow profitable crops on. This is the case if you mean most of the abandoned cities of the bronze age collapse. Egypte was spared from this because of the nile, mesopotamia because of the tigris and eufraat
Josiah Gray
Germans were ancient Muslims confirmed
As for Ottoman, Constantinople was in better hands under them than Rome under the German barbarians.
Nathaniel Lewis
>muslims maintain and defend those sites for more than a millenia
>they fall because of some nutjobs sperging out a few years ago
>look guys le religion of le peace xDDDD
Nolan Cox
>shitskinyya
Racism is unchristian you /pol/tard. Jesus was also brown
Samuel Myers
en.wikipedia.org
>From the Arabian Peninsula, they first migrated to the south of Egypt before heading to the Maghreb. Abu Zayd al-Hilali led one million Arabs into North Africa, who assimilated and intermarried with the indigenous peoples.[1] The Fatimids used the tribe, who began their journey as allies and vassals, to punish the particularly difficult to control the Zirids after the conquest of Egypt and the founding of Cairo. As the tribe became increasingly independent and abandoned Shia Islam, they quickly defeated the Zirids and deeply weakened the neighboring Hammadid dynasty and the Zenata. Their influx was a major factor in the linguistic, cultural, and ethnic Arabization of the Maghreb and in the spread of nomadism in areas where agriculture had previously been dominant.[2] Ibn Khaldun noted that the lands ravaged by Banu Hilal invaders had become completely arid desert.[3]
Cooper Barnes
Climate which saw falling rainfall levels over time, then Roman mismanagement as the empire fell apart and harbors and fields silted up, then nomads destroying irrigation systems for grazing land.
The early Muslims weren't really nomads, and oversaw a revival of urbanization in the region, but the later influx of Beduoins and Turks brought it down again.
Chase Martinez
He's asking about the Western Roman Empire, not the present day.
Cameron Perry
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