What was the worst ivention in the history of mankind?

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Religion. From today's perspective Islam in particular but they've all been pretty awful at one point or another in history.

It remains to be seen if industrialization is really just a glorified death spiral or a transitory state towards some new more stable existence like agriculture was. Though agriculture led to some of the worst lifestyles in human existence... I think working in a shit factory doesn't compare to how horrid it was to be a slave with your dick chopped off working to death in a silver mine.

Religions are so barbaric in contrast to enlightened atheist movements such as communism aren't they user?

Here's a (U), from me to (U) uuuu.

Electricity. It brought with it nothing but degeneracy.

Not an invention, occurs naturally and we were exploiting these natural occurrences before figuring out how to let something ferment for a bit and then drink it

Abrahamic religions*

So spoketh this fellow through an assembled contraption of silicon, copper, and gold, sitting on an apparatus of plastic, in a domicile through which run arteries of PVC and veins of ABS.

Religion is a more advanced form of human superstitious instinct. The most cancerous invention was circuitry because it allowed this world to exist.

But user, how do I am become death with no giant bombs?

There's no such thing as a bad invention, as almost all have positive uses in addition to bad. If you want to be really objective about it probably some medieval torture instrument because that has the least possible positive uses and would most often be used to inflict pain on innocent people for no reason.

universal suffrage

Nukes stopled bloody conventional wars and are the only reason America and Russia still arent at war.

>It remains to be seen if industrialization is really just a glorified death spiral
Either a civilization invents space travel and advances to the next level, or it doesn't, if we've used up all the resources and are still on this planet, we'll effectively go back to the antiquity.

This, nukes are a fucking godsend. God bless the atom bomb, the only reason why World War II hasn't had three sequels since it ended.

Age of consent

egalitarianism

Correlation =/= causation.

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>It remains to be seen if industrialization is really just a glorified death spiral or a transitory state towards some new more stable existence like agriculture was.

Marx said that capitalism creates its own gravediggers so I reckon you're on to something here.

Yeah relative world peace just correlates with mutually assured destruction for every single major world power, definitely isn't caused by it.

>Implying religion is an "invention"
>Implying human society could have evolved to this point or at all without religion developing
>Implying religion has never contributed positively to the world
>Implying Islam is the problem in the world today, and not the barbarity of capitalism in the imperialist epoch that tore apart the middle east and created the space for groups like ISIS to exist.

fool

>religion that extols barbaric violence creates violent barbarians
>somehow this is the fault of secular white people

Wtf such a bad reply. Get out more often.

Nice argument

natural hardships are good
also this has nothing to do with organized religion

I wish I didn't have to flee into technological escapes to alleviate the meaninglessness and alienation of post-industrial society but here we are

Agriculture

>any invention who whitstands the test of time
>worse
the worst inventions are the ones who prove useless or damaging to people

maybe lead plumbing can count there

t. Edgylor McEdginess

Cotton gin

Nice counterargument.

Korean War? Vietnam War? These were proxy conflicts between the US and Cino-Soviet sphere of influence.

Automobile

Get at me cagecucks

Unironically this. Slavery was decreasing before its invention. No cotton gin = less shitskins

Yes, but not directly between russia/usa

Civilization.

The Neutron Bomb, or enhanced radiation bomb. It was a small-yield nuclear bomb designed to kill through a massive dose of radiation rather than the kinetic energy of the blast or the thermal energy released at the time of detonation. Your insides would effectively disintegrate and you'd die a very painful death over a period of a couple days. Even the man who designed it, Sam Cohen, described it as an evil weapon.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_bomb

Can't have communism without capitalism.
Let's get to the root of the problem.

>more humans die of obesity related issues than starvation
How is that good?

Multiculturalism

silicon implants

t. commie

Why does that matter? Nuclear weapons were not a deterrent in these cases, nor in any of the other instances of full-scale war throughout the 20th and now 21st century. All nuclear weapons have done is push the theaters of war into those regions that have been denied access to them.

What happens when they DO gain access to them? And when diplomacy fails?

Birth control pill.

Why

Obviously, High heels and ties. They serve no healthy purpose whatsoever. The healthy morals and science to advance the Human Condition have entirely eroded since the invention of these 2 articles of clothing and it is pertinent to the Global Community that this issue be addressed immediately; not only by the United Nations but also the Vatican, The Dali Llama well as the Japanese Porn Industrial Cartel.

>I wish I didn't have to flee into technological escapes to alleviate the meaninglessness and alienation of post-industrial society but here we are

I absolutely fucking detest this attitude with a passion. You think modern life is so dull? What exactly about pre-industrial life was so much better? The only thing that would've distracted you from how mind-numbingly tedious subsistence farming is would be the agonising pain from the untreatable illnesses you have.

You're perfectly free to live your life without the evil results of industrialisation if you so choose (and with the added bonus of modern medicine that industrialisation gave to us taking away the nastiest bits). All you have to do is buy a farm. Just remember to give up your computer, your TV, and pretty much all your other consumer goods. Oh, and no mechanised farming equipment so you and your family have to do all the work yourself. You'd probably last about two weeks.

/thread

fucking cars

>What happens when they DO gain access to them?

Then they have a trump card to protect themselves from surrounding armies.

The whole Russia-Crimea thing happened because we promised protection in exchange for Ukraine dismantling their nuclear weapons.

Oops.

>And when diplomacy fails?

The ability to inflict lethality is a part of diplomacy. Without it, other nationstate predators plan their future war plans with the weakness of non-nuclear powers in mind.

> You'd probably last about two weeks.

Human happiness is relative. And our society has promoted food which makes people feel like shit and entertainment which stimulates dopamine release to the point of addiction and fucking blue light which inhibits a bunch of metabolic and cellular "garbage" cleanup and autophagy.

Not to mention that more cognitive frames are occupied by absolute bullshit by the advertising/entertainment complex.

I'm not saying past life is perfect, I'm saying that there are novel "difficulties' which humans are far less prepared to deal with than the normal difficulties of past ancestors.

Water pollution.

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Are you saying USSR would attack USA if no nukes?

>The only thing that would've distracted you from how mind-numbingly tedious subsistence farming is would be the agonising pain from the untreatable illnesses you have.
tribal hunter-gatherer life-style would be preferable to agricultural living

>All you have to do is buy a farm. Just remember to give up your computer, your TV, and pretty much all your other consumer goods. Oh, and no mechanised farming equipment so you and your family have to do all the work yourself. You'd probably last about two weeks.
modern factory farming is horrific and a not the same as the ancient practice. farms that haven't industrialized are dying.

Yes, i'm so grateful for the two World Wars.

smartphones

Not who you're referring to but YES.

The state and the "deep state" could give less of a shit about casualties as long as the core politicians and technocrats are still alive.

They literally do not give a shit about citizens who occupy the buffer and periphery.

I'm with you on that

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>I think many humans feel that life in a city is an illusion. Combatants after war can't find their place in the civilization, because they've seen the truth. Even if this is not an imprinted memory, we still are mammals from the woods.

>Civilisation eats more "primitive" cultures. Sure, you can chose your lifestyle - as long as you buy it from our store.

>tribal hunter-gatherer life-style would be preferable to agricultural living

While it is indeed true that a hunter-gatherer lifestyle is the healthiest for the body, it would be extremely difficult for someone like us who has grown up in the modern world to adjust to it. I know I wouldn't want to revert to it.

And you're also correct in that it's better to agricultural living. It would be better to live in 10000 BC than 1500 AD. But the advances of the past 100 years or so in terms of medicine and entertainment have turned that around. There's basically an enormous gap between the invention of agriculture and the early 20th century where life sucked hard for the majority of people. Just be glad we're one of the first few generations out of it.

>modern factory farming is horrific and a not the same as the ancient practice. farms that haven't industrialized are dying

Yet we're able to feed an unprecedented amount of people? Sure, it may be sad and depressing to see morbidly obese people, but if you have even the slightest amount of self control it's better to live in a society where you're statistically more likely to eat yourself to death than starve

Pic related, hugely over rated.

But in terms of damage done to humanity, I suspect Social Media will be the ultimate winner.

Ok, but what profit would the russian officials have? It would most likely end in tears.

Both empires needed an enemy, because that's what empires need. War is best run by proxy. Hitler should know better.

most people are definitely not equipped for a return of hunter-gatherer living, but many would also would have to die to make that possible.
I would like to see it happen but I don't hold the delusion that humanity will return to that state barring some cataclysmic event.

>Yet we're able to feed an unprecedented amount of people?
if not for industrialization we wouldn't be able to feed the earth's current population, true. but I don't think growing the population more than we have is desirable, they say the earth with our current technology could support 100 billion people, sounds like hell to me.
>Sure, it may be sad and depressing to see morbidly obese people, but if you have even the slightest amount of self control it's better to live in a society where you're statistically more likely to eat yourself to death than starve
I think the fight to not starve against the natural world is a dignified pursuit, rather than the "surrogate activities" people create for themselves when survival is such a guarantee that goals need to be fabricated to create the illusion of fulfillment.

egality

Media

>nukes are invented
>2 are used
>suddenly go from the period of highest conflict to nearly no conflict

People stop killing each other when everyone has the power ro kill everyone.

>pushed men to build wonders
>unifies men under one flag and purpose

B-but muh crusades are bad.

Fuck yeah they would. Cold war was the cancelled triqual to the world war.

It's a miracle one side or the other didn't just lose patience and initiate earths self destruction. And they almost did at one point.

Global communism which was the whole point of the cold war in the first place for the USSR.

Yeah, in a hundred generations

>goals need to be fabricated to create the illusion of fulfillment
I would argue that it's just the trap of our current economic and social system. We've fed ourselves with propaganda. The goal is to have a "better economy". What does that even mean? We lack intelligence as a species. We go for quantity, not quality. This makes us act like a cancer cells killing the host. There is noone behind the weel now except the pursuit for short-sighted "profit".
>It remains to be seen if industrialization is really just a glorified death spiral
So we end up with this. We might have gotten technological tools too soon. Our societies weren't ready yet. Instead of creating a shield from asteroids, we might bring doom to ourselves with our own hands. If that scenario plays out, it will be the least satisfying "see, I was right".

Lol isn't the atom bomb a non-spurious causal mechanism though?

marxism

Usury. Stock trading. Supercomputers that do billions of microtransactions on the stock trade per second, screwing over all.
Human Resources is close second.

why draw the line at HR and not say the entire bureaucratic office workplace.

Stalin might have been insane, but still reluctant to open wars. Especially a war he would not be able to win. He was to busy killing his own people.
Can you imagine a USSR full scale offensive across the ocean on american soil that ends up with USSRofA?

Inb4 gommunism

you're too late

It's hilarious.

Stalin gets the credit for industrialization but both him and Lenin killed millions of small business owners and other ideological enemies.

Can you imagine a Russia where tens of millions of productive citizens were still alive to live and procreate?

God

Inb4 epic fedora memes

Prior to the 20th century, when the state became strong enough to effectively enforce law through surveillance and police, religious morality was vitally important to maintaining a peaceful/stable society.

What was Roman Republic?

Money

the united states of america

nigger, this isn't a debate. You said retarded bullshit, your post wasn't an argument to begin with

What is Roman Civic Religion you faggot. Why do you think the early christians were persecuted?

>Says "communism", thinks Stalinism, Maoism etc.
Cult of personality is a cult.

Probably because they were insufferable contrary asshats LARPing as jews desu