What would have happened if some Portuguese had teached the Aztecs to build muskets, like they did with the Japanese?

What would have happened if some Portuguese had teached the Aztecs to build muskets, like they did with the Japanese?

nothing

unlike the Japanese, the Aztecs couldn't make or work steel.

The Portuguese didn't teach anything besides the recipe for gunpowder. The guns were sent to the best sword smiths in the region who copied them to the best of their ability

>the Aztecs couldn't make or work steel.
they still helped the Spaniards to repair all their bronze cannons though

and what if the Portuguese also showed them to work steel?

Smallpox

>and what if the Portuguese also showed them to work steel?

Working steel is something that takes a while to get good at, but I suppose if the Aztecs had steel weapons and guns it would have made conquest more difficult, but not impossible since it was other groups that did most of the work for the Spanish

Ultimately disease would topple the Aztec empire if nothing else did. You can't maintain a society during an event that kills 90% of your population.

It could not happen
There was no industry withing the aztec society. Their economy consisted on waging war to extract tributes and force trade, nothing more.

nothing

They were too primitive technologically

It would only be possible under permanent supervision

>There was no industry withing the aztec society.
??

>Cortes issued orders to all the townships which lay in the vicinity of Tezcuco, and were in alliance with us, for each of them to furnish him with 8000 copper points for our arrows, to be made after the model of our Spanish ones, of which some were sent them for that purpose.
>He allowed them eight days for the making and delivery of these; and indeed both the arrows and the copper points arrived at Tezcuco in the time specified. Our stock of these now consisted of 50,000 pieces, and the arrow points made by these people were even better than those we brought from Spain.
- The True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz del Castillo, Chapter CXLVII

Not him

They had industry, of course, but not the sort that could make firearms.

>8000 copper points
Spaniards thought they were made of copper due to their particular shining, but modern analysis classify them as bronze alloys

what did the aztecs lack?

>The Portuguese didn't teach anything besides the recipe for gunpowder.
Wait, the Japanese didn't learn how to make gunpowder from the Chinese?

>tfw all the god-tier civilizations in the americas get shat on for being weak when it was smallpox the whole time
reeee
also inca=maya>toltec>>>>>>>Aztec

bump

To have a factory capable of producing firearms you need a massive amount of infrastructure already in place. You need a supply chain going directly from the iron miner to the man who makes the ingots to the gunsmith who also has to be trained in how to make the complex mechanisms. All these stages need people trained and doing it for a career in an interconnected web.
Repeat all this for each little part of the gun.

You can't just force industry on people it has to develop.

the Chinese had gunpowder but nothing on the level of the Portuguese at the time, who boasted proper muskets and powerful cannon-armed battleships called "Black Ships" that many Japanese immediately tried to emulate. Early muskets were less effective than bows and so muskets didn't really take off in Japan as the primary weapon until US involvement helped them reform their military into a modern one. Early Japanese muskets were seen as ineffective but were still used commonly by the peasant ashigarus because they didn't require that much training. Some samurai did use guns but most preferred their traditional spear and bow setup. Honestly it wasn't until modern rifles and 19th century cannons that traditional Japanese warfare became obsolete. It's actually pretty impressive that they managed to remain so effective hundreds of years after muskets were introduced.

Arbusque never completely displaced bows in medieval Japan but they did surpass them in importance on the battlefield. The Japanese, including samurai were heavily invested in firearms by the end of the sengoku,

While the gun might not have surpassed the yumi in range for fire rate, it offered much better armor penetration.

The Japanese developed volley fire, and a few smiths even experimented with rifles. Cannons were highly valued but the best ones were imported because unlike guns the Japanese never mastered their manufacture during the sengoku.

Nor was the "given up" after the war ended. guns were kept in castles, and sometimes used for hunting or putting down uprisings. There were also schools for guns just like for the bow.

Like in Europe when it was first developed?

Sunset Invasion.

>What would have happened if some Portuguese had teached the Aztecs
>had teached

I'm surrounded by aspergers

God that fucking expac was so retarded.

>Not the EUIV achievement

Well they were native americans the will need some practice later learn how to build it

wecould take some examples other native american tribes got muskets from brit and they barely used it later in the time they had to use them because bow and arrow became worthless...