God gave us the ability to reason. Why do believers reject god's gift?

New International Version
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;

New International Version
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.' But wisdom is proved right by her deeds."

>but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die

New International Version
For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.

>But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

>God gave us reason
>left behind a book full of platitudes that must be taken on faith
>left it vague enough to splinter the religion into thousands of sects with different interpretations
>"divine mysteries" which are forbidden to approach through reason
really makes you think

what if the paths of your "soul" and your mind do not correlate?

New International Version
No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God's approval.

How does that even?

Is he just saying we are his labrats?

New International Version
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Ok, bible quoters. So we can agree that bible sends conflicting signals as to the usage of the mind?

>NIV

Get a real Bible.

7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye. shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh. findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

what the fuck is this how the fuck can someone think this is anything positive holy fucking shit Christianity is literally an antithesis to Western culture

How's that working for you?

What the fuck is this thread

Dunno about him, but secured me a place in the Kingdom of God. So, fantastically.

Good for you. Too bad your family fucked up and you will be for eternity mourning their suffering in hell.

Good God this is horrendous advice

Faith is the antithesis of reason

New International Version
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

New International Version
What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath--prepared for destruction?

New International Version
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

New International Version
And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Won't even remember them.

You either.

Are you using the NIEVIL ironically, or do you really think it's an acceptable translation? I have no problem with these verses, but do have problems with the NIEVIL in general.

For instance, not being able to tell Jesus apart from satan.

New Living Translation
Many of those whose bodies lie dead and buried will rise up, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace.

if god wanted us to be his slaves, then why did he make us in his own image and give us free will?

That seems like an odd use of the word "many".

Maybe play around with either the KJV or the New KJV.

New American Standard Bible
"But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

New International Version
Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

King James Bible
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

English Standard Version
But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

New International Version
So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.

Perhaps He does not want us to be slaves, but servants. There is a difference.

The heat death of the universe is a plausible ultimate fate of the universe in which the universe has diminished to a state of no thermodynamic free energy and therefore can no longer sustain processes that increase entropy. Heat death does not imply any particular absolute temperature; it only requires that temperature differences or other processes may no longer be exploited to perform work. In the language of physics, this is when the universe reaches thermodynamic equilibrium (maximum entropy).
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe

Satan gave reason to man, God got butthurt over it

Read Genesis

>3. Avoid curiosity.
Fuck this shit.

Being humble seems incredibly overrated. No wonder people need heaven as a carrot on a stick to keep them going

You know that barely any atheist/agnostic replies to these threads any more right?
Veeky Forums is split into pieces

Sure, but god is supposed to be all-knowing. He created everything, including Satan. So getting butthurt was his plan all along. Ultimately it was he, who gave us reason and Satan was his messangel.

People feel almost infinite need to argue over god.

But user, I already do all that without mother teresa's aid. Am I going to heaven?

Because when you use that ability, God dies?

No he didn't, that's a humanist meme. Reason is disgusting and evil.
t. reddit
Reason is not wisdom. Wisdom is knowledge, reason is the death of knowledge.

>God

What did he mean by this

If we'll be able to create virtual universes inside computers, how probable it will become that the one we live in is the first in chain?

Not Very likely, but that doesn't make or proof that our fore bearers are gods.

I fucking hate this heretical effeminate pseudo-Christian trash. My favorite thing to do with shit like this is ask "What would God do?" Lets take a look shall we.

1. Ohhoho no. Yahweh speaks of himself frequently and openly.

2. He also interferes with others affairs.

3. Would be curious if he didn't already know all things, advocates such in Proverbs.

4. See #2

5. Decent advice, God would do this

6. To a degree, God would do this.

7. The ending of the book of Job says the Almighty doesn't take shit when it comes to unwarranted censure.

8. God only does this if it is His will to do so, its not a general principle.

9. To a degree, usually for the sake of some noble enterprise [see: The Crucifixion]

10. God would never do this.

11. God does this sometimes, depending on the scale of the infraction.

12. God would never do this.

13. God is vicious in the defense of His own dignity.

14. Never does this.

15. Does this constantly.

In short, her advice is shit, and any man who takes God as his example would do wise to scorn it.

Depends of what you consider "god".
So let's say a creator, that knows everything about us and can do everything he wants with us.

A shitty perspective for a free thinker, but a lovely one for a believing sheeple.

Have you considered how irritating your way of writing is for a potential reader?

Quite literally the keys to happiness

>the number of sects not a result of humans fallibility of understanding rather than the impurity of the text

If he's so powerful why did God allow his "pure" text to be corrupted?

Lawjikboy is back for round 2.

The universe and everything.

If God is perfect then why would he ever want to create anything? Why would he ever WANT TO DO ANYTHING for that matter? If you want something you're not perfect.

>if you dont fit muh lawwwwwwwwwjik u arent pirfict

>le heat death meme
Nice meme, fellow redditor!

This is just common sense, really.

What God can do and what you can do are not on the same league.

Learn 2 faith.

>He created everything, including Satan. So getting butthurt was his plan all along. Ultimately it was he, who gave us reason and Satan was his messangel.
Why is Satan the bad guy again?

He introduced death and evil into the world.
He is the father of all lies.
He is the greatest deceiver.
He is behind every false religion.
He hates mankind.
He wants to bring you to hell.

At least post the video, OP.

youtube.com/watch?v=qDX6F_O5XB0

Fedoras can't even answer the Teleological or Cosmological argument, let alone the Presuppositional one.

But all of this is what God planned a long time ago. Satan is just doing God's work.

Actually the more you learn the stronger your belief in God becomes.

Atheists can't answer any argument with anything other than "M-maybe we'll figure it out with science in the future!". Logically God exists

He did not plan it.

He planned against it.

Everything is part of God's plan.

t. Protestant

Not an argument.

Yes, and?

He knew Lucifer would rebel, and already had a plan to deal with it (sacrifice & redemption).

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Foreknowledge =/= Planning it

He knew what Lucifer would do.
He did not want him to do it.

You realize the whole Satan being a fallen angel thing is not biblical right

youtube.com/watch?v=fCnQQLUJHb8

friendly reminder that nobody in hell is an atheist

Yes it is.

You just said "yes" to "everything is part of God's plan" and now you're saying God didn't plan it.

Just fuck off already.

>God wants to create universe
>He has multiple outcomes
>He creates the best one
>The best one still has rebellion
>He foresees rebellion and plans against it

You're an idiot if you can't understand such simple concepts.

>He has multiple outcomes
This means he planned it since the beginning, he had plans for every possible outcome you dumb shit.

Holy shit abrahamic religions are complete abortions.

Your bait is very weak.

>Holy shit abrahamic religions are complete abortions.
At least you and Christianity have something in common

>gives people free will
>people decide to do bad
>OMG IT'S GOD'S FAULT!

kill yourself dumb ass

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Stop responding to the retarded atheist.

Nice strawman, retard.

>if you're not a christcuck you're an atheist

You aren't God dumb-dumb.

Enjoy hellfire, you stinking moron.