I don't really understand what happened in these. Can someone give me a quick rundown? Are there still tensions between Russia and Chechnya? How did the Kadyrovs go from waging jihad to being Putin's lackeys?
Chechen Wars
Dylan Howard
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Ryan Moore
looks like Russia engaging in nation-building
Ian Turner
>tfw Russians built up Grozny better than we built up Iraq
I feel like a second rate world power. Hold me anons.
Charles Nelson
>grozny 1994
H O W
Eli Mitchell
>ussr dissolves
>chechens want an independent country
>russians lose control over chechnya
>pootin comes and starts another war there
>chechens start doing terrorist acts in russia
>russians bomb everything without regards for civilian life
>pootin gives billions every year to chechnya to stop them from rebelling again
Brayden Sullivan
I heard that there were some memes circulating that the terrorist attacks might have been staged. Is there any support for this view? Or is it "9/11 was an inside job"-tier conspiracy BS?
Dominic Thompson
is this drawn from scratch or does it trace an actual photograph
Jaxson Baker
Drawn from scratch, but pic related is the actual photograph. Still impressive, considering the hand of cards they were dealt.
Nolan Baker
it was literally stalingrad
Grayson Thomas
Did the tactic of carpet bombing everything work? If that was the First Chechen War, then what happened in the Second one?
Ian Morales
It got bombed more.
Brayden Howard
Are they still getting uppity? Is Islamic terrorism an issue in Russia?
Jose Jones
> are they still getting uppity?
yes, but in Ukraine and Syria
> is Islamic terrorism an issue in Russia?
google Beslan and Moscow Opera
Aaron Cook
The main journalists investigating the Moscow bombings and claiming the government was involved were killed, so there's that.
Henry Harris
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Jacob Morgan
>Beslan was 13 years ago
Wow, that went quick...
Hunter Moore
Parker White
The apartment bombings were 100% staged. Pretty much every respected Russia expert agrees.
Local police caught FSB planting bombs in some apartments a month before. FSB claimed it was a test and the explosives were actually just sugar but later testing at the site showed that the trace explosives were military grade explosives, not homemade stuff.
A politician announced the second bombing (naming the city) 3 days before the bombing actually occurred in said city.
Basically anyone involved, any reporters or politicians who wanted an investigation ended up in jail or dead.
Joseph Hall
First Chechen war was right after the fall of the USSR, one of the main commanders was literally an incompetent traitor (Pavel Grachev) who launched the attack on Grozny while drunk on vodka and it ended in a complete disaster. He was also a corrupt cunt who mass stole army supplies and got rich by selling them to enemy countries and random terrorists.
The 2nd Chechen war which was under Putin was just Russian skullfucking whatever resistance the Chechens could muster.
Brody Sullivan
Was there any support for an independent Chechnya in Russia by the end of the First Chechen War?
Is it seen by Russian media/public the same way that American media tends to view the Second Iraq War?
Elijah Walker
>pootin comes and starts another war there
>chechens start doing terrorist acts in russia
should be chronologically switched
Carter Phillips
after the first war, Chechnya had de facto independence already
Joseph Cooper
Liberals and Jews sided with Chechens, that's one of the reasons they got so hated in Putin's Russia.
Lincoln Allen
Why Chechens wanted an independent country in the first place? No one else in the Russian Federation did.
Easton Robinson
Why was Russia able to crush Chechnya in the Second War but not in the First? Was it just incompetent commanders in the first, or were there legitimate differences in strategic positions?
Asher Morris
There isn't much hate for Chechens nowadays
After the fall of the USSR there were many nationalistic independence movements, some more successful than others. Even in Kazan, one of the richest areas in Russia had some independence movements to form Tatarstan.
Incompetent leaders, in the first war the strategy could be summed up by "run waves of troops into sniper/guerrilla infested mountains with no backup. In the second war Russia took advantage of it's strength over guerilla tactics (artillery artillery artillery and THEN move in troops)