What do you think is the system to replace capitalism?

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Feudalism

Some Nick Landian bullshit.

Why do you think so?

socialism -> communism

True capitalism has never been tried.

>Image supposed to describe Capitalism accurately describes every implementation of Communism

Nice screenshot OP when you can just hold to download
Also subtle using a modernised communist propaganda
But yeah Communism is the arch heresy because it says you can have the beauty of the second coming without the second coming
But to actually address your question, catholic theocracy after the final judgement

WHAT are you talking about, all communist states have been atheistic republics, religion is a tool of the bourgeoise

Do you even have to ask?

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I don't know user, a tachyonic flux is preventing me from seeing the future.

>implying Third position isn't already here as globalisation with a human face

>priests above soldiers and working class

>monarchs ruling anything

shitty outdated meme class hierarchy

Thank God

>replace capitalism
When the rapture comes obviously. Why do Communists use religious style rhetoric to talk about their ideology? They speak of the future as if it were the past, as if it were destined, and have this fanatical, unshakable faith that their holy scripture is true and the unbelievers will suffer when the day of judgement comes. I'm not speaking about academic communists, I mean the Soviet Union apologists and the people trying to start revolutionary movements. They're basically cultists.

Scientists are the contemporary priests.
>MUH RULERS DONT RULE
Not absolutelly and not directly, but definetly indirecrly.

They were atheist, but they tended to replace religion with cults of personality or worship of the state.

>why do marxists think history is linear
Maybe because Marx himself was inspired by Whig thought, and looked at history in breadth not depth.

Better capitalism

Just swap religion with ideology and its identical

Capitalism isn't this image because there are too many layers, the army one kills other nations people, the working class are the ones who eat the most and are fattest, religion is dead in the west, monarchies are fucking gone or powerless and the political class is basically the upper middle class, and the ultra rich do profit but so does anyone else who puts in hard work.

>that pic

That's describing corporatism, not capitalism.

You mean not true capitalism right?

Fuck all modern systems and just go back to feudalism.

You want to know the difference between capitalism and communism?

They both indeed have that type of structure, but the one thing capitalism has is ladders, where as communism doesn't.

>but the one thing capitalism has is ladders, where as communism doesn't.
is this supposed to be spun in a good way or a bad way?

>Oppression is okay as long as the oppressed can become the oppressor!
This isn't some BDSM switch session you dumb fuck

Meant for

the best thing for us is the slow integration of socialist policies as automation continues to swallow the job market whole
at some point in time, unemployment must lose its shitty stigma for society to accept it though

There is no other way. Logically there are 3 ways of getting things done.

autonomy: everyone acts in their own interest and adapts to each other, free markets, capitalism

heterachy/democracy: things are decided by groups, worker's councils, socialism, votes, committees

hierarchy: a chain of command, people receive orders from a superior and/or relays orders to those beneath them, feudalism, dictatorship

each has their advantages and disadvantages

That wasn't real comm-capitalism!

this

Replace calculated enterprise and speculation? I'm not sure but maybe you'd have to find a way of getting rid of money first.
As for kleptomania maybe campaigning for and enforcing some regulation would help.

Depends on technological change. If nothing changes than eventually it collapses because of the endless need to consume. If technology significantly increase then we could see some interesting reshuffle of the way people live.

Basically in my opinion we are stuck with capitalism/socialism until we as significant jump in our ability to harness energy. So we are most likely stuck here for awhile since the two main jumps are very far off or possible impossible.

>Dyson Swarm
>Effective Nuclear Fusion

This right here.

Having invested time into doing research, communism and socialism are darwinistic approaches to capitalism. Put simply, the inequalities of the capitalist working class (coupled with democracy) gives rise to social programs; those social programs eventually lead to a sustainable and voluntary system where all workers are equal and get their fair share. There has never been a case in the history of the world where socialist countries have ever lead to such a system; instead, it always either leads backwards to that capitalist system again, followed by balkanization, or it has turned to absolute oligarchy.

Backtracking from modern day capitalism, you would look back and see that the industrial revolution had 100 hour work days. Thinking in terms of progress, logically, before the 100 Hr work day, there must have been full on slavery/ working 24 hrs a day; however, that's wrong.

If anything, capitalism is going to teeter back and forth, and it won't disappear until mass starvation and when the resources run out, until we can do something about it.

Feudalism has been so misunderstood, especially ancient feudalism. Of course, with the primitive tools, life was harder regardless, but they didn't have to work long hours, and they didn't work all year. They had a LOT of leisure time. Majority of the population were in the working class, unlike today. Today, most people are in office jobs, service jobs, sales, etc. How many farmers or fishers do you know?
I'm literally providing life to people who sit on their ass all day to provide menial services.

The word "Lord" literally means "Loaf-ward". Your lord is your loaf ward, your bread provider, and he provides you shelter. But before the loaf ward gave you shelter, food and protection, it was the smith's job to do that, during the beaker period, where metallurgy formed the foundation for western civilization.

You have opened my eyes on this of feudalism. Some good texts on the subject?

We won't know until it happens. Just like Adam Smith didn't quite know what he was describing in Wealth of Nations, only that it made sense and appeared to benefit both producers, consumers and workers. Took another century for someone to show up and call it "capitalism".

>muh martial elite
Topkek, literally incompatible with modern warfare

>Majority of the population were in the working class, unlike today. Today, most people are in office jobs, service jobs, sales, etc. How many farmers or fishers do you know?
>I'm literally providing life to people who sit on their ass all day to provide menial services.

Gee, maybe because the mechanization of physical work has made human presence in the primary and secondary sectors almost entirely useless. You can have miles of agricultural land easily managed by no more than a dozen full-time workers nowadays. It is far more difficult to automate the tertiary sector, hence why the distribution of workers is so disproportionate.

Feudalism is impossible to reconcile with all modern foreign politics, economies and technological advancements.

So what the fuck is the reason people work such long hours today?

Tribalist exodus into the sea of stars. On the voyage to new planets I guess there will be a mix of gerontocracy and meritocracy till we can establish colonies and dial home to be included on the Greater Terran Confederacy.

Adam Smith didn't describe capitalism, and he hated land owners as worthless parasitic leeches. He described market economy.

>we you rule
what did he mean by this?

Hopefully, there will be a chain of peaceful revolutions and changes towards a more and more egalitarian and non-hierarchical society until we arrive in an Anarcho-Communist utopia.

He describes the impact of industrialism on the exiating mercantilist model and how it's revolutionising it. He was literally describing the market as it was transforming from one model to another, namely the capitalist one.

>You can have miles of agricultural land easily managed by no more than a dozen full-time workers nowadays.

Miles.. You said it.. MILES. Feeding millions of breeding parasites who don't produce anything other than the methane from their own shit. And what if those farmers stopped? What if they decided to farm for themselves, because they were over-exhausted by the low-paying farm job? The parasites of society would tax them and tell them that if they can't contribute to the tax, then they'll be arrested. But to contribute to the tax, they have to earn money from an economic system that the parasites control.

I go lobster fishing. We haul about 100-200 lbs on a bad day, but that's with hundreds of other boats fishing in the same water. If we only had to feed locals, then 100-200 lbs a day is an excess. I work maybe 12 hours a day, 7 days a week (Often have bad weather, so probably about 6 days on average). 300lbs is probably the average catch, and the average price is usually 8$ per pound, so that'd be 2400$ a day. There's 4 crew, and the boat itself which has its own budget. It sounds like a lot of money, but income tax is taken out (to pay for the parasites), and that's a lot of tax money right there.
But when I finally get the money, what do I spend it on? Gas for my car so I can drive to the grocery store for more food, because I can't devote time to farming, as I have to work for millions of parasites to pay property tax and gas tax that pays for more parasites, and migrant parasites. This year, I'm planning to devote more time to my garden, but that means I'll have to work longer hours. And I still won't be free and sustainable, because even if I could grow my own food, I need a job to pay my house tax. And guess what? Farm animals aren't allowed within the town (I live on a fucking small island off the coast of Eastern Canada), so i literally have to buy shit.

Sorry. It's a very unpopular concept. Literally nobody writes about stuff like this, because they conflate feudalism with enslavement, when it's the exact opposite.

Robots + universal basic income

*tips knitted cap*