What's the point of being Catholic if non-Catholics can go to Heaven?
What's the point of being Catholic if non-Catholics can go to Heaven?
John Moore
Easton Roberts
Technically,
the fact they're right?
Don't get me wrong, this pope sounds like a false prophet
But the fact 2/3 of people only believe in God because they fear hell, is pretty hypocritical from a Christian standpoint
They would go to hell anyways by that logic, wouldn't they?
Caleb Fisher
Eh? Nonbelievers or sinners still go there, it's just not fire-and-brimstone but rather a state of profound suffering from being close to god but not as close as people who were pious in life. Source: attending a Catholic uni.
Gavin Anderson
There is no point to being Catholic. Get out.
Camden Reed
You can only go to heaven if you're a non-catholic AND not know that the catholic church is the true church. If you know and you willingly refuse to be catholic, you'll still go to hell according to catholic teachings
Isaac Kelly
>They would go to hell anyways by that logic, wouldn't they?
From what I remember if you follow their teachings because you're afraid of hell God still forgives you and you can go to Heaven, but ideally the main motivator should be love and not fear, and Christian should aspire to the latter option.
Also this
Chase Thompson
They teach you that with a straight face?
Benjamin Adams
lmao
Isaiah Ramirez
You get to wash and kiss other mens feet.
Brody Brown
Is it something along the lines you find in Dante's Purgatorio, after Inferno, when he goes through Purgatory and finds people climbing up a mountain towards Heaven?
Oliver Johnson
most likely
Carter Collins
Dante did not put heathens in purgatory, righteous or otherwise. In Inferno, all heathens go to hell, just that righteous heathens get to stay in Limbo, the first level of hell, which is sort of a mild hell where you don't suffer that much. Dante's writings are just literature by a lay Catholic and does not reflect Church teachings, which teaches righteous heathens do go to heaven
Leo Parker
How can an all-powerful and ever-loving God condemn billions to an eternity of suffering? What's the love in that?
The whole concept of hell seems so ridiculously un-Christian to me, I have no idea how it found any widespread appeal.
Luke Mitchell
Daniel Gray
That's a bit dated - the Pope closed Limbo in 2007. Now ya can get into heaven regardless, everyone who was in there already got booted up, and babies get a free pass.
Colton Taylor
Is the Pope man equal in his power level to the omnipotent God man?
Landon Gutierrez
>Hell, in many mythological, folklore and religious traditions, is a place of torment and punishment in an afterlife. Religions with a linear divine history often depict hells as eternal destinations while Religions with a cyclic history often depict a hell as an intermediary period between incarnations.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Owen White
The Pope is the mouthpiece of God... So goes the teaching.
Jonathan Thompson
The very existence of an earthly Chuch spiritually helps everyone, even non-Christians and atheists.
People send themselves to hell.
Ian Gonzalez
This is an 18+ board
I say that because the older I get, the more I realize why there is a hell, and why you people belong in it
Ryan Gomez
You mean the pope admitted they made the shit up in the first place.
Cults.
Not even once.
Sebastian Parker
Is God a foot fag?
Matthew Rodriguez
Don't recall him phrasing it that way...
Hunter Torres
Well, washing feat is a classic euphemism in the Bible, so...
Matthew Adams
All I know is that the more you think about it the more this world becomes comically unjust.
Nolan Hall
>this pope sounds like a false prophet
Because you're a brainlet that only reads headlines and not the full statements.
Noah Carter
Why be a doctor if everyone is gonna die?
Gabriel Johnson
I'm a med student and I keep asking myself that same question.
Anthony Stewart
He didn't, stop believing the clickbait.
Learn about Catholic understanding of magisterium too, instead of parroting whatever The Daily Mail/sedes/your bapturd pastor told you.
Brandon Price
11 and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life: You should mind your own business and work with your hands, just as we told you, 12 so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody.
Luis Evans
The salvation o non-Catholics in the church is kind of an open question for catholic theologians depending on whether your definition of being "in the church" is limited to membership in the earthly institution.
You can guess which side of the debate the conservatives are on.
Lincoln Adams
The big difference between hell in Abrahamic and Eastern religions is the length. Eternity is a stupidly long time.
Nathaniel Mitchell
Not an open question at all. Lumen Gentium states that righteous heathens can be saved.
>Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life.
Charles Martin
Yeah but that is kind of a special case, and I dont know that it carries the weight of dogma
Jayden Evans
>not know that the catholic church is the true church.
Someone who thought the Catholic Church was the true one would be a Catholic.