Why was John F. Kennedy and his brother assassinated? Was it really Lee Harvey Oswald?
I always sort of assumed it was the mafia that did it as revenge for JFK cracking down on organized crime after they went through the trouble of helping him rig the 1960 election, and that LHO was either framed by the mafia to take the heat off or was a patriot trying to prevent the killing. The fact that LHO ended up getting whacked as well only furthers my suspicion.
What do you think?
Lee Harvey Oswald without any help.
Lee Harvey Oswald was one of at least 3 shooters. His bullet was probably the kill shot. His fellow comrades probably went on to teach sociology at harvard or got aids from gay sex
He crossed the CIA.
I have my pasta from my last thread, I can post it if anyone wants, if not then bedtime.
Why was RFK killed later as well then? Pure coincidence?
Also
>In a contradiction to the conclusions of the Warren Commission, the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) concluded in 1979 that Kennedy was "probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy".[5] The HSCA agreed with the Warren Commission that the injuries sustained by Kennedy and Connally were caused by Oswald's three rifle shots, but they also determined the existence of additional gunshots based on analysis of an audio recording and therefore "... a high probability
The fact that RFK was also killed is what raises more questions about if there was something bigger going on.
This.
I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure their dad ended up getting canned as well. The Kennedy's had a very long and shady history with the mafia and I wouldn't be surprised if the deep state let it happen for whatever reason.
The city of Dallas has, unbeknownst to most people (which I can attest to) an immensely powerful Jewish community, but, more importantly, the city (and Texas) had been a major center of fundraising and arms smuggling on behalf of the Zionist cause, going back to the 1940s. Even Jonathan Pollard, the American spy for Israel, said he was inspired to pro-Israel activism by stories he heard (while living in Texas) of gunrunning for the Israeli underground by Jews in Texas. In fact, the official published history of a major Zionist arms smuggling operation, the Sonneborn Institute, reports its agents smuggled aircraft parts out of Texas to Israel. This was happening when a then recently discharged Army Air Corps aircraft mechanic, Jack Ruby, was re-settling in Dallas in 1947, the year prior to Israel's birth, then Sonneborn's activities were at a zenith. Ruby bragged of having run arms to Israel and, in 1963, is now known to have part of an arms smuggling operation overseen by an Israeli intelligence officer. So the Israeli connection to Texas was a lot more intimate than many today ever realized.
There was an immediate confrontation between Bloom, representing the Dallas elite, and Jerry Bruno, JFK's veteran advance man. Bruno wanted the president to speak at the Women's Building, but the rulers of Dallas insisted JFK speak at the Trade Mart. Although Bruno fought long and hard, after much pressure, the Dallas elite prevailed, causing the JFK loyalist to comment that "this was one of the few fights like this that I had lost. On things like this my judgment was usually taken. This time it wasn't." By forcing JFK to speak at the Trade Mart, the Dallas elite positioned the JFK motorcade to take the now infamous "dog -leg" turn into what was a classically sniper-friendly "kill zone" on Elm Street just below the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD), from where it later was claimed the alleged assassin, TSBD employee Lee Harvey Oswald, red the fatal shots. The spot was also in easy range of the "grassy knoll" and the nearby Dal-Tex Building, where assassination researchers believe snipers were located. Had JFK's advance man prevailed —as he usually did —JFK (on his way to the preferred location) would have traveled two blocks fart her away from the TSBD —out of the kill zone—at a greater speed.
Although the Secret Service objected (for security reasons) to the publication of JFK's motorcade route, Bloom (the point man for the Dallas elite) nonetheless made sure a map of the route was repeatedly published in Dallas papers. Thus, later, when the "patsy" was in custody, there was a plausible explanation as to how he knew JFK would pass by his workplace. That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major financial backer of the Israeli lobby's Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since JFK was working to stop Israel's nuclear arms program—which received smuggled uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman's Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.
Once the accused assassin was in custody, it was----you guessed it —Sam Bloom, who had earlier maneuvered JFK into the kill zone, who pressured Elgin Crull, the city manager, to in turn pressure Dallas Police Chief Jesse Curry into making Oswald accessible to the press and to move him publicly from the Dallas police station to the city jail. Thus, the situation was in place for Jack Ruby to move in for the kill. There are several sources, including Dallas FBI agent James Hosty, who stated Bloom and his backers were the forces behind this. When the police searched Ruby's home, they found a slip of paper with Bloom's name, address and telephone number on it.
In 1963, JFK's primary interest in Dallas was raising money from the Dallas elite, and that meant the wealthy pro-Israel Jewish Democrats who were major financial angels for the ruling Democratic Party there. And since JFK was, at that time, at loggerheads with Israel over its nuclear arms program, it is critical to recognize how JFK was lured to Dallas and who was in charge of the arrangements that actually facilitated his assassination. And while it is well known that the Dallas leg of JFK's Texas trip was sponsored by the Citizens Council (CC), the elite business group that ruled Dallas, the little-noticed evidence shows that two of the three key figures who dominated the CC were Jewish —not "WASPs," as the legend of Dallas would have it. These were the folks who really ran Dallas, not the conservatives affiliated with the John Birch Society, as the old myth suggests. In 1963, one of those Jewish power brokers was an outspokenly pro-Israel liquor wholesaler, Julius Schepps, who held the distribution rights in Dallas for the Bronfman family's Seagram's products (both of which are Jewish)
The means by which the Dallas elite gained control of JFK's Dallas trip agenda is interesting. Since JFK's Dallas trip was officially designated as "non political" —in contrast to other Texas stops such as Houston and Austin which were designated as "political" —the private entities paying for the Dallas trip gained control of the planning (taking it out of the hands of the JFK -controlled Democratic National Committee). The
CC designated a "host committee." The chairman was Dallas Jewish leader and public relations man, Sam Bloom, the CC's longtime executive director, and —in retrospect —one of the least known but most pivotal figures in world history.
>deep state
Is that what we use for the term shadow government now?
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It's gotten to the point where when I see or hear people say that shit, I have to laugh.
It's just one of the many spooky-sounding names for the technocratic machinery that exists below the surface of the US gov, or any sufficiently powerful government.
It's not really a shadow government or any Illuminati bullshit, just an inevitable consequence of the consolidation of power.
It makes sense though and the evidence lines up, you have a period (still ongoing imo) of hypernationalism among the Israelis and diaspora, a politician who owed much of his campaign victory to Jewish money but was now attempting to deny what they thought was necessary, a father who supported the National Socialists, mob ties through Giancana and his boss, Meyer Lanskey, who himself was an ardent Zionist and weapons supplier, a colluding CIA.
Yeah, but people tune the term "shadow government" out despite how valid it is.
Jack Ruby with Israeli reporters the day Kennedy was shot, he claimed he was acting as an interpreter.
Ruby died from cancer he claimed was "injected into him" but was never able to say who did it.
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Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone
His entire life has been on of attention seeking like defecting to Russia and coming back (but no one cared) that's why he did it
>well Jack Ruby obviously had to kill Lee to keep him quiet
Then someone would have to whack Ruby to keep him quiet right?
>he could not have fired those shots precisely
he was a skilled marksman in the army
Mental insanity and instability. Same shit with Reagan, except we have that on video and he survived:
MARINES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Was it really Lee Harvey Oswald?
Occam's razor says yes. He was a Marxist sympathizer who had even defected to the Soviet Union at one point. And before shooting Kennedy, he had also attempted to kill General Curtis LeMay.
It's sadly much more mundane than the terms people use would imply. It can include anything extra a government employee can do because of the nature of their position that gives them more power compared to other people. For example, when I worked for my state government, I regularly had got old IT parts that would be scheduled to be thrown out before they were technically considered bad. Perk of the job, and a waste of tax money for everyone else, but fairly benign in the grand scheme of things.
When you pile on enough of these fairly benign things though, they start to add up to something major, until you wind up with insular government sponsored institutions with their own cliques and ideas on how to run things. And that's when you get in to people doing things that might be technically legal or facilitate the purpose of their position, but are so roundabout as to be done for personal motives.
JFK was a rich, handsome, athletic, war hero, Pulitzer Prize winning author married to Jackie and nailing Marilyn and countless other floozies on the side
and some smirking loser with a 30 dollar mail order rifle blew his brains out
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The Warren commission conclusively determined that JFK was killed by a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Antifa.
I'm not sure I buy any argument that LHO was hired by conspirators or whatever because who would trust that crazy loser to accomplish anything, but what was Jack Ruby's deal? Dude was fucking hanging around the cop shop pretending to be a reporter, he was shady as fuck and surely was not attempting to kill LHO just because he was butthurt about the president.
>The HSCA concluded the existence and location of this alleged fourth shot based on the later discredited Dallas Police Department Dictabelt recording analysis.[20]
hmmm
Old dude here. I recall reading an article by Stewart Alsop (I think) just after the release of the Warren Commission report in which he expressed relief that we weren't like the Europeans, who were prone to believe all sorts of ridiculous conspiracy theories. There's a lesson in there somewhere.
Imagine if reagan died right there. Probably would of hit the country even harder then JFK.
McCarthyism would ve a thing again.
Imagine if Reagan died, and Hinckley also died. Hinckley's motivation was so esoteric that nobody ever would have figured it out.
Have you got any sources for the mafia rigging the election?
Looks like J. D. Tippit
>J. D. Tippit
J.D. Tippit (September 18, 1924 – November 22, 1963) was an American police officer who was an 11-year veteran with the Dallas Police Department. On a Dallas street, about 45 minutes after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963, Tippit was shot to death in a residential neighborhood in Oak Cliff. Lee Harvey Oswald was initially arrested as a suspect in Tippit's murder but later also became a suspect in the shooting of President Kennedy. Oswald was charged with both crimes shortly after his arrest. However, Oswald denied involvement in either of the cases. Before Oswald could be prosecuted for either crime, he was shot and killed, while in police custody, by strip club owner Jack Ruby on November 24, 1963.
What about the French assassin theory?
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
They guy also names people from the agency who were supposedly involved in it. The only counter-argument I could find was that Hunt was being exploited while on his deathbed or whatever.
I'll bump with this long article.
rollingstone.com
I say the only "reason" to doubt this theory is the fact that there's no official document that would support this. At the very least we have to say it's inconclusive but plausible.