Why is China the most autistic country on earth? They have autistic philosophies such as Daoism...

Why is China the most autistic country on earth? They have autistic philosophies such as Daoism, and they are shit at waging war.

if i recall correctly, most of their casualties come due to forced conscription and little to no training. i mean, there is being badly trained, hastily trained, and so on, but in china it was more "here's a spear, now get out there"

i remember reading about the taiping rebellion in a book on them. at one point they were moving through hebei province on their way to the yangtze with about 60,000 people in their group and got BTFO in an ambush and were reduced to about 10-20,000 people. in a month of moving around the provinces they ended up with a new group of 80,000. in one month! bear in mind they were a radical cult too. thats how they got such extreme casualties

Depends on the general

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How did China field such massive armies? Is their logistics that good?

>Soldiers constantly on the brink of starving to death.

Maybe that's why their armies were shit.

Conscription + large population + high yield rice + large centralized state

*pulls back eyes "OH wah abo Sun Tzu"

China hates itself

Numbers (both of army size and casualties) were almost always exaggerated in historical accounts, but ancient Chinese armies could get pretty big by European standards, simply because they had the manufacturing prowess and agricultural productivity to arm and feed a large number of troops. Depending on the condition of the dynasty at the time, they may even benefit from good infrastructure as well.

As for military prowess, keep in mind the following:

>At various points in time, soldiery was not a highly regarded occupation. Chinese rulers didn't really like having standing professional armies and generals because they presented a possible threat to their existence.
>Big empires have big borders, and most successful dynasties often ended up overextending themselves, to the point where they had to essentially bribe the nomads on their borders to keep them from raiding.

>Chinese rulers didn't really like having standing professional armies and generals
Uh.
>Qin:
Entirely Standing Army, paid for by the state.
>Han Dynasty:
One third a small standing army (qin style), one third conscripts who had to train for one year and serve another year's term, the the rest a mixture of Provincial armies and the Buqu (Household troops) of the last feudal lords in this period of feudalism's twilight in Chinese history.
>Three Kingdoms:
Wei and Shu had a professional bolstered by conscripts similar to the old Han army. Cao Wei had the pretty nifty Tuntian system of colonist-soldiers who were given plots of land and developed the land in peace time. Wu pretty much Buqu fuckin everywhere.
>Jin & Nanbeichao
Too all over the place for me to describe one military system. Throw in the Nomad-founded Northern states to boot.
>Sui Dynasty:
Purely conscription from village militias. With disastrous consequences.
>T'ang Dynasty
First half standing armies under the state, ran via the Fubing military system, which gave families plots of land in exchange of military service, founding hereditary military families where the patriarch and his sons train to be professional soldiers.
The other half were the private armies of the Jiedushi- military governors who held extraordinary civilian AND military authority and the emperor's permission to have a share in taxes and raise their own troops- who pretty much were stationed near the frontier.
>5 dynasties, 10 kingdoms.
Jiedushi armies, considering they balkanized the T'ang.
>Song Dynasty
Continued pretty much the T'ang system, with extra civilian oversight on the military and the disappearance of the Jiedushi and private armies.
>Yuan Dynasty
Well, a Mongol army so it's standing. But eventually started the Weisuo Military System of Commanderies which theoretically reported to a central command but devolved into T'ang style hereditary military families owning plots of land.

>T'ang
Just write "Tang" like a normal person. You either go full Pinyin or full Wade-Giles, you can't write "T'ang" and then neglect to follow through with "Ch'ing".

>Ming
Started with the Yuan Dynasty's Weisuo system, but managed to recentralized it in a heirarchy of commands so a standing army is back on its feet. Civilian oversight problem solved by assigned military commanders attached to their hierarchical colleagues in the civil government (i.e. Governors are buds with Generals, a colonel would hang around a magistrate, and so on). However by the middle of the Ming Dynasty, the Standing army was much supported by private entities such as volunteer soldiers, private military companies, and other freebooters who were interested of being noticed by the military and possibly acquiring a lucrative military rank and salary without going through the motions of joining the regular military/military academy.
>Qing
Standing army: the 8 banner armies, with the ninth "Green Standard Army" who were pretty much home guard. By the 1800s, devolved, and initially relied on ad hoc task forces formed by a motley of professional soldiers leading militias. During the Taiping, a Western Style army emerged, the Ever-Victorious Army. In the late 1800s the Franco-Prussian trained Beiyang army emerged. Though the traditional banner armies were still around and the only ones remaining loyal to the Qing by the time it collapsed.

tl;dr there was a lot of professional soldiers, just ran under different systems.

How often did these great professional armies ever win great victories outside of China itself, against an actual major foreign power? Rome's legions were adding territory to the Empire and keeping the Persians off their front porch, but it seems like all the Chinese did was fight inside of China, aside from when they grabbed Tibet and Xinjiang.

Obviously it is a meme that Chinks only fought themselves, but It'll take a boatload of time to outline every foreign adventure every dynasty ever had.

Some notables ones are the Han-Xiongnu Wars, Han China went inside the steppes and destroyed the Xiongnu steppe nomad empire in their own turf. Then there's the invasion of Vietnam, a place they held for a thousand years until the Song tards lost it with their paranoia over the military. There's also the Han destruction of Gojoseon, the first Korean unified state, causing the 3 Kingoms of Korea to happen and ensuring no Northern power threatened China. In the T'ang Dynasty, T'ang armies reached as far as the Afghan border, and pretty much created China proper as we know it with the absorption of Southern China (then not part of China). The T'ang also destroyed a Yamato invasion fleet in the Battle of Baekgang when they went there to defend their Korean allies, a victory over Japan that was so hard, Japan went isolationist for the first time in history.

The Song and Yuan were really low points in Chinese military history (ironic considering the latter was under the Mongols), but the Ming and (early) Qing made up for it, considering Ming China invaded Mongolia and took away Inner Mongolia from the Mongols, and the Qing's 10 Great Campaigns, of whom 8 were successful and built modern China's borders.

Wow, I never knew there was an ancient Imjin war

Nah, it wasn't Imjin tier. Considering Japan wasn't able to land in the first place.

The house of Yamato and the Japanese Aristocracy had relatives in Baekje and the Kaya Confederacy during the 3 Kingdoms of Korea period, and decided to help out a bit.

It turned out to be a bad decision.

For a long time the Yamato court thought they would face an invasion from Korea. They maintained a national army for a while and called on early samurai to move to kyushu to protect it/

Weren't they busy having shitfights with the Emishi?

Because Jin Shu is definately a TRUE and HONEST historian.

>Gojoseon, the first Korean unified state
Wiman Joseon was actually intrusive towards the peninsula as a whole. He formed a confederation with refugees from Yan,Qi and native polities such as Yemaek and Chinbon.

Baekje and Goguryeo claimed the Buyeo polity as their ancestors while Silla came from Sam Han.

>Then there's the invasion of Vietnam
Nanyue was similar to Wiman Joseon as polities include lands outside modern China but in the case of the Vietnam the polity was centered around Guangdong not Northern Vietnam.

Traditional accounts record that Northern Vietnam was under the control of the Au Lac polity before being conquered by Zhao Tuo.

Having two major River systems and rice put them on easymodo agriculture.

The trick is to not give a fuck if your soldiers starve to death on the journey, you're constantly recruiting from villages and towns along the way anyway.

Because Confucius

Qin armies at their height probably could've fucked anyone up, including the Romans. It would've been a tough fight against the Romans for sure though.

Tang military was also too strong which led the Song successors to hamper the strength of military nobility and officers which fucked them over when it came to the Mongols. Yue Fei is a classic example of Song paranoia over the military.

Ming was a pathetic attempt to recreate glories of past dynasties before Mongols fucked everything up and they failed against a bunch of backwards Manchu horsefuckers. Manchu doomed China to centuries of stagnation and eventual domination by even stronger Western barbarian who were smelly and hairy.

>Qin armies at their height probably could've fucked anyone up, including the Romans.
On what basis could they have done this?

We need to talk more about the Yamato era.

logistically they fielded the largest armies ever seen before the napoleonic era, which in itself is an achievement. However who can really trust the source numbers? It's easier to believe when it's china since there have always been a fuck ton of people there.

They probably had pretty bad morale though, not sure if a Chinese formation could stand up to a heavy cavalry charge unless it was their top tier troops