Was it rape or cheating? Who did it?

Buddha didn't become one with anything, he merely taught the method to avoid the eternal renewal that was a central feature of the religion he was raised in.

He literally did, though.

Talmudic propaganda. Nice try, Sheckelstein.

Self-sacrifice for the sake of atonement is pretty heroic and noble, you're just an autistic cunt.

No, you just have no idea how the Trinity works and insist on imposing ancient pagan metaphysics on Christianity.

I'll make this real easy for you.

youtube.com/watch?v=0G2S5ziDcO0

Edgelords, where Mary and Joseph married at the time?

Didn't think so.

>He literally did, though.

No he didn't you lying sack of shit. He sent his slave to tell her that he'd already raped her, he didn't ask if she even had an opinion on the matter but simply demanded that she be grateful for having been raped.

>if God had sex with a human being

There was no sex involved. God just manifested himself in her womb so he could take on a human form.

>He sent his slave to tell her that he'd already raped her,

archive.fo/epubP

Jesus allowing himself to be destroyed by the justice of the Father, for the sin of Adam, is a conjured up tradition for the sake of making sense of a confusing act of sacrifice.

You're inventing a meme for understanding the concept of atonement, then claiming that was Jesus' intention the whole time (even if Christians didn't always understand that), and saying your proof is that other Church Fathers have argued the same equation as well in the past.

Essentially you, Robert Barron, and the rest of you goons are inventing religious traditions as further objections against the faith come up, and then claiming guidance and authorization of the Holy Spirit allow you to lie as you see fit.

>He promotes his own channel.
Regretting that tattoo yet, IP?

It's not my channel, fuckface.

You keep using the word "conjectural" to describe established historical events, but then go on to describe your own hypothetical, unsupported theories.

What proof do you have that the church fathers just made the whole thing up? Seems like you're just uncomfortable with the conclusions.

>If I use the word "meme" then I can pretend I know what I'm talking about.

youtube.com/watch?v=gldvim1yjYM&list=PLBQ1JSDQW9hD9M10HQhwFOknF-kSM26yx

Jesus willingly chose to die, and told everyone that he would die for the sake of mankind
>But he totally wasn't trying to atone for anything, u gais!

Yeah because telling a CHILD that you plan to rape her and having her express her inability to stop you (because, y'know, you're god) is totally the same as consent! No wonder you people are such trash, you have no conception of morality, just slavish obedience to your cosmic rape-god.

The trinity being a theological concept to avoid pitfalls like these was exactly my point you dunce

Well, a man well in his 50's takes a 16 yo girl as his wife, they don't have sex but soon after the girl is pregnant.
What happened. Most people would have a theory that the guy got cucked and little Marry did some judo between the bedsheets with another man. Not so Christians, they adamantly believe Jesus was not a chuck child and instead the son of G O D himself.

Just one more reason not to be a Christian.

...

>Old fart priest of the local Hebraic temple keep young 12 y.o. girl as a "servant"
>oshit she got preggers
>Quick! Let's summon the dumbest men in town
>Amongst them, the carpenter looks particularly guillible
>Whoa Joseph, your walking stick totally grew these flowers that were just in front of the temple, it must be a sign of the Lord. Now go and marry this little skank
>Fast forward a few weeks
>Joseph still won't have sex with Mary because she's a fucking 12 years old child and he's 40, and still has some moral restraint keeping him from doing it
>Mary has to invent an excuse because her belly's getting bigger
>Hey Josie, last night an angel from the lord descended from heaven and blessed me with child
The rest is in the bible

Someone post Constantine's theory on the conception of Jesus

>tfw she(male) will never post with her trip again

It was anal leakage.

It's a fucking myth you dunces.

There it is.

Never gets old.

>I fucked my own mom making me my own father
Sounds like a shitty doujin

Cheating probably. For the being god incarnate Jesus was as weak as any human, turning water into wine is not very impressive when a millennia ago your god was destroying whole cities with fireballs from the sky and shit, not to mention the romans tore him a new one.

There's a porn manga like that. Not exactly, but close. Something like the guy raping a woman, commits suicide, then reincarnating as his son, who then proceeds to bang his own mom and his sister.

Yes god is three people and all are fully him and its Okay because its all beyond human comprehension except humans are the ones that came up with all of this shit in the first place.

This. Why else would Jesus look like a European?

>God, Jesus, and the Spirit are decidedly one
>Except for when it wasn't and it took a special council of Christians to decide whats actually true about the infallible god

I'm no ancient greek philosopher, but I think the burden of proof falls on you in that situation

>Why else would Jesus look like a European?
God is white.

Lmao didn't constantine quit tripfagging after this?

So you didn't read the article then?

You forget that Joseph was going to divorce her, and needed an angel to show up and explain the situation to him so he wouldn't do so. He didn't believe Mary. Just another atheist talking out his ass.

See above, he didn't believe her. It'd be nice if you faggots actually read the story you were criticizing.

He rose from the dead. And changing water into wine is no easy feat, considering a water molecule is different from a wone molecule.

askjohnmackay.com/water-to-wine-what-happened-when-jesus-turned-water-into-wine/

The concept of the Trinity predates Christianity and is found in Jewish culture.

blog.logos.com/2015/08/the-trinity-in-the-old-testament/

You're the one making allegations of an ancient conspiracy among the church fathers, how about you support your arguments first.

The virgin birth is a later addition to the story.

Proof?

His ass

Yep. He disappeared for a little bit and then tried to come back like nothing happened but nobody was going to let him forget that debacle so he just gave up tripfagging.

Jesus is a composite figure assembled from many, many previous myths that all feature the same story line:

Horus was one of the many Egyptian Gods (3100 B.C.)
He had 12 disciples.
One was born of a virgin in a cave.
Like Jesus, his birth was announced via a star.
And three wise men showed up!
He was baptized when he was 30 by Anup the Baptizer.
He rose a guy from the dead and walked on water.
Lastly, he was crucified, buried like Jesus in a tomb, and resurrected.

Buddha, (563 B.C.)
Healed the sick
Walked on water.
Fed 500 men from one basket of cakes.
Taught a lot of the same things Jesus taught, including equality for all.
He spent three days in jail.
Was resurrected when he died.

Mithra, an ancient Zoroastrian deity with similarities to Jesus (2000 B.C.)
Virginal birth on December 25th.
Swaddled and laid in a manger.
Tended by shepherds in the manger.
He had 12 companions (or disciples).
Performed miracles.
Gave his own life to save the world.
Dead for three days, then resurrected.
Called “the Way, the Truth and the Light.”
Has his own version of a Eucharistic-style “Lord’s supper.”

Krishna, (around 3000 B.C.)
A Hindu God.
Born after his mom was impregnated by a God.
Angels, wise men, and shepherds were at his birth.
Guess what gifts they gave him? Gold, frankincense, and myrrh.
A jealous bad guy ordered the slaughter of all newborns, just as happened with Jesus.

Consdering Luke's remarkable historical accuracy, there's no reason to believe that the Virgin Birth was just a later invention, especially since the Virgin Birth was likely to attract scrutiny. So it would have made no sense to mention it if it didn't happen.

apologetics-academy.org/blog/2016/12/13/is-the-christmas-story-historical

>Watches Zeitgeist once.

Thats what happens when Paul makes up the christian religion 30-50 years after Jesus dead. Like take all religious myths you like, write them together and put Jesus in the center.
His success justifies it, even today people believe that crap.

Probably a roman soldier or something like that, assuming that the story behind the birth of the supposed superjew has any truth to it at all. More likely his parents fucked and produced a child just like countless other parents did and the virgin birth much like the resurrection is a later invention.

That's a lot of outdated theories. For one thing, there is no proof of pagan borrowing, nor is their proof Paul invented any new doctrines.

The "Roman Soldier" theory was literally invented by the Jews in the Talmud hundreds of years after the fact. Yet more proof that atheists are good goys

>>any of the books of the holy bullshit
>>historical at all
lol

>>virgin birth possible let alone probable
lol

>>the roman soldier theory was invented later
Probably, I only really mentioned it here to piss off you christfags.

>>atheists are good goys
Says the "goy" who worships a dumbfuck dissident who got nailed to a piece of wood and died like a little bitch and then likely had his body dumped in a garbage pit.

>and the virgin birth much like the resurrection is a later invention.

If he hadn't come back from the dead, then there would have been no Christianity. The Apostles wouldn't have died for a lie.

See
I don't know why atheists are so intellectually stunted. It's like you faggots stoped brain development at age 13.

>Probably, I only really mentioned it here to piss off you christfags.

Then you're a bigger goy then you know.

>Says the "goy" who worships a dumbfuck dissident who got nailed to a piece of wood and died like a little bitch and then likely had his body dumped in a garbage pit.

You must be really mad at your parents.

Edgy

Wait..want Joseph impotent and god was basically their donor?

*wasn't

I sometimes wonder if Veeky Forums is ironically christian as /pol/ is, then I see posters like you and it leads me to believe they are stupid and really believe in christianity

Doesn't matter if the concept predates them, just proves that it was an excuse picked up after three centuries of disunity in church doctrines to attempt to united christians.

Pathetic really.

>It's an atheist calls everybody else stupid while demonstrating a pronounced inability to even comprehend the subject being discussed episode.

>Doesn't matter if the concept predates them

Yes it does, as it proves, contrary to your assertions, that the church fathers didn't just make up the trinity.

>three centuries of disunity in church doctrines

Belief in the trinity long predated Nicea.

str.org/blog/nine-early-church-fathers-who-taught-jesus-god

Why would God even need to do that in the first place rather than just appearing out of nowhere as a fully grown man?

It's not like it's to avoid suspicion, given the whole virgin birth thing.

He's an attention whore.

>implying the bullshit he just made up is any less credible than standard Christian dogma