Parents are about to start making me pay rent

Fuckin boomer

I'll take things that never happened for 200 bob

Negotiate a low price. You could still be saving a fortune on rent alone before accounting for water, food, garbage, laundry.

You always have the option of shooting yourself in the head and ending this "bad deal on life you didn't sign up for".

>Being so butthurt about the truth you try to resolve it with violence.

You sure seem like a great person man.

It's only a truth from individualist point of view. From a collective point of view (one that allowed the civilization) you're full of shit.

I dont get the logic of this shit though call me a selfish loser or whatever

>have extra rooms
>parents dont plan on selling house or renting out room to other people
>pay for my own groceries

It would be ok to ask for some money for utilities but asking for rent is shitty

You can always get an abortion

Read

Doesn't make sense
If the job opportunity is so good why would just living rent free be better? Because /comfy/ ?

Why not have a good job and live without having to pay any shitty mortgage or rent? All that money saved could be put in an emergency fund that could be used for life saving surgery for your parents

>could be used for life saving surgery for your parents
Your rent money doesn't magically disappear, your parents can still use it in that manner.

I guess if I bought my own food they'd be less angry

You americucks are the most stupid people in the world. In the democratic Europe no parent would make a son pay for rent.

>Because /comfy/ ?
Obviously. This is a default option for NEETs, because having a demanding job and taking care of yourself is hard work for them.

>parents call police that son seems depressed
>get arrested
>sent to crazy ward
>no suicide allowed.jpg

yeah good thing my parents already live in a city with good job opportunities and I don't have to move across the country to live somewhere I've never seen, don't know anyone, don't know the streets, and have to start entirely from scratch to get a 10% pay bump

will you fuck off with these shit threads, either help your parents out or move the fuck out you man child

I dont want to do either of those things.

just kys neet

I can't wait until my kids are 18 and I can kick them out into the real world. I'm sorry you have shitty parents who didn't properly prepare you for life. You'll continue to be cucked in life as long a shout live in the basement.

Kinda shit not giving your kid enough support so he can save up and move out rather than wasting money on rent.

Kill yourself, my man

>Did I ask you to have me
This is the dumbest fucking argument ever. If you were really sooooo upset about being born, you would have killed yourself a long time ago.

because europoors don't make enough money to pay rent

They're trying to help him. He is pathetic and needs encouragement to leave the nest, or at least needs to learn some personal responsibility.

If you live with your parents they should charge you some nominal rent, perhaps 1/3 or 1/2 the normal rent in the area. It's still an excellent deal for the pathetic child, but he at least learns some responsibility and might get on his feet one day.

Where do you get that he's upset about being born? He could be perfectly happy but just aware that being alive is his parents fault

We also need to look at the bigger picture here. If his parents neglected him and didn't give him any guidance in life than expecting him to be super responsible, mature person is kidna retarded.

If they really wanted to help shouldn't they have put effort into raising a more competent and better educated child? I think they just want to help themselves

literally just move out then, why would you pay to listen to a pair of faggots rules
I like the suggestion the one user had the other day, pay them for 3 months, then report them to the irs for not paying taxes from a new income

Sometimes all that is needed is a little encouragement.

I had nowhere to live and my parents refused to let me come home. So I became homeless.

I sorted my shit out because that really sucked. Now I have my shit totally together and completely self-reliant. I would never need help from my parents or anyone. They are getting old now, so their final lesson for me was good.

So what do you contribute?

>Sometimes all that is needed is a little encouragement

That they had literally the child's entire existence to give

It's common for parents to coddle their kids, especially only children. They think they are doing what's best, it only becomes apparent later on that they made a mistake when he is 21 years and lives in the basement posting memes. It's not too late to fix that, if you stop making things easy for them and begin to make them more self-reliant.

Step 1 is charging them some rent, so that they have to get a real job and get out of the house a bit.

Making the kid pay before helping them get a job sounds like putting the cart before the horses
And a good way of making them resent having to work

>
>making them resent having to work

That's lesson #2

I've never actually thought about it like this but I'm definitely gonna use this argument next time my parents start talking about "moving out" or "finding a job".

The reality is I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you so how dare you try and make me pay you money to continue existing?

Imagine you went out and bought a puppy and fed it and looked after it for a few weeks and then told it to start looking after itself.

You don't want a permanent tenant - don't have the fucking kid. Pretty simple to be honest.

They have to need to get a job. They are not gonna do it just because you asked nicely.

It all comes down to shit parents doing shit parenting and trying to cut their losses then
Shitty thing

Literally this.

People actually try to justify landlords who also tries to talk your head off with lessons they obviously could not teach you for 20+ years, no matter if they were right or wrong. And they will keep on doing that, as long as you live there.

If you want to leech off of your parents, fine. If you want to move out and start your own life, that's fine too. But just don't half ass it and turn this into a cringefest. Cause parents asking their children money for room and children paying to the worst kind of landlord possible sure is a cringefest.

dad should have put a couple in your leg then thrown all your belongings (empty kfc bucket and nintendo DS) into the street

This is honestly a thing in murica? top kek regards eu, never heard of anyone charging their own kids lmao

it's a retarded special snowflake argument. Each animal becomes independent at some point. And it has been the same way for humanity for hundreds and hundreds of years. But here's user with his bullshit argument trying to defy all of this because he's such a special snowflake.

Honestly, fuck off you cancerous leech.

>Each animal becomes independent at some point

Out of necessity
Is it really necessary to force your retard son to pay you? Is "rent" actually just reparations money you want because of how much you hate your kid and regret having it?

Are you chiping in for any utillities?

Your parents want you to be independent and able to look after yourself because they won't be around forever.

Sure, you might inherit the house, but you can't live there indefinitely with no income. bet you don't even know how to wash clothes or cook or clean. You'd be living in a pig sty and the house falling apart within 3 years, and eventually inheritance money would run out and you'll be a 45 year old kissless, handholdless virgin who has never worked a day in his life and is barely able to function in society.

Stop being pathetic and leeching off your parents.

>Out of necessity

no out of a need for future survival of the species.

>Is it really necessary to force your retard son to pay you?

if he has money yes? If he doesn't, make him get a job so he can do that.

>Your parents want you to be independent and able to look after yourself because they won't be around forever

And how is taking his money helping with that?

Let me guess. You are living at home and leeching off your parents.

You will either continue to do it, or you'll break free and realise I was right. I'm not here to convince you to improve your life. It's up to you.

>no out of a need for future survival of the species.

What?
Survival of species is usually easier with them cooperating

>if he has money yes? If he doesn't, make him get a job so he can do that

Literally nothing but making a buck out of your kid

Okay boomer

Oh right
This is about me now
I thought it was about how using other people for profit doesn't actually benefit such other people

>Survival of species is usually easier with them cooperating

up to a certain point yes. However to live a self sustainable life, they have to leave their parents at some point otherwise they would just die as soon their parents are gone.

>Literally nothing but making a buck out of your kid

It's called teaching your kid how to be independent. You keep making the point that they should have raised a better kid. Well guess what, that doesn't stop at 18, they can keep doing that in their 20's.

>It's called teaching your kid how to be independent

They can't do it for free?

Never asked to be born

Lmao at the logic of making life hard for your children to """teach""" them.

Ah yes why dont you break their legs to force them to squat after recovering and "teach" them resilience.

idk, from what I am reading ITT they won't do it for free

I mean the parents
If the lesson here really is being independent why do they have to take money away from the kid while teaching it? They can learn while keeping the money for themselves and for the things they want to do

again see my previous post. From what I am gathering from this thread, those kids won't do anything because they feel like their parents are responsible for them all their life.

Paying for food and utilities and any other expenses you incur is fair. A set rate for that for simplicity is fair. Making a profit off their kid, not so much. My dad was a greedy sheckler and not only did he make me pay rent after I graduated, but it was $200 more than most people my age were paying their parents. It wasn't even a good house, he had a shitty mobile home at the time. He also loaned me some money for school and charged 10% interest, and I was too naive at the time to know how high that was. He eventually lowered it to 5% out of guilt, I guess. He's not even jewish. Fucking boomers.

Even then
Forcing them to get a job I understand
But let them keeping their fucking money
As a parent it's your job to help the kid thrive, not use them for profit

again, you don't seem to understand my point. Judging from the replies in this thread, people will not find a job, if they are not forced to do so. And how exactly do parents want to force their children to find a job without taking away their financial stability?

Precisely. The user you reply to is just in denial and doesn't want to have to work.

Even with a roof over their head people still want and need things
They can just stop paying for superfluous stuff for the kid and leave them to support their wants on their own

That's fucked up man...

If you're a successful adult that has a job and/or is going to school and the only thing keeping you from being able to live on your own is insufficient finances, you shouldn't be charged to live with your folks. You're already responsible.

If you're NEET your parents still shouldn't charge you, but they should force you to get a job.

They can't make u pay rent if they think u are poor. Always hide ur cash bros.

then he gives you 30 days
>haha im not going anywhere what r u gonna do
>30 days later
>eviction notice
>haha what are you gonna do, throw me out?
>sheriff arrests you for refusing to leave the landlord's property
i've dealt with shitty roommates before
and you don't want an eviction. good luck renting from all but the shadiest, crime ridden areas of town with that on your record.

nah making your kids contribute for food and shelter is a good thing. it's annoying that they let him stay for free until 21, but he's still young enough to learn how to function in society. breaking legs sets you back, but if they forced him to play sports that would be good too.

Real talk, your parents can evict you.
Each state (and even city) in the US is different (assuming you're a fellow burger), but the general rule of thumb is give 30 days to vacate, and if they're not gone, you serve an eviction. Typically, the court will give you 30 days to rectify, but if you do not, you will generally be given a few days before the landlord (your parents) can bring the sheriff to escort you off of the property.
So start looking for an apartment now and get a job. Evictions make it almost impossible to rent unless you want to be in the shittiest, most run down areas.

First of all the likelihood of your own parents evicting you is so little. Second of all you can destroy their property

>tfw have job that's 1.5 hours away
>tfw can't move out without burning bridges with my mom
Wat do

Your mom doesn't understand that commuting 3 hours a day is fucked up?

She said I'll get used to it, which I have to a certain extent but I still fucking hate it

>cant live mommy, what do biz?

maybe break up that weird, incestual, co-dependent relationship you have going on with mommy and live your own life?

You're just going to have to explain to her why it's bad for you. That's an incredible amount of your life wasted on monotonous travel. Ask her what her end game is. Does she expect you to live with her forever? Does she not want you to have a life of your own? If she expects you to get used to commuting, why can't she get used to you being away? Tell her you'll visit here whenever you can, but that you have to go. If she's this attached to you, and you make clear that it's not because you want to get away from her, she'll be happy to see you as much as you deem reasonable. Soften the blow as much as you can, but you need to cut the cord.

>the only thing keeping you from being able to live on your own is insufficient finances
let's say you're in this group, but what if it's not insufficient finances but rather zero reasons to move out

then pay rent, obviously

what if the mortgage is paid off
help with groceries/utilities?

yeah that should be fine. even doing chores or errands is reasonable if you have a decent relationship.

>but what if it's not insufficient finances but rather zero reasons to move out
From a pragmatic point of view, stay at home as long as you can to save money. The only negative is your chances of getting into a relationship are severely diminished since nobody wants to fuck in their lover's parents' house. If you feel like you gotta pay something, get your own food and offer to pay a share of the utilities.

Then stay
Honestly are good family relationships that hard to come by in America?

If they try to kick you out, just off yourself. You'll be the one with the last laugh as they mourn their dead son. Serves you right for trying to make me pay rent.

yeah, thankfully my parents aren't American

>your chances of getting into a relationship

see how is it acceptable to drop 1/3rd of your income just to be able to facilitate this

Wait
My input on this was based on the premise the parents actually own the house
If they're renting or something then yes helping with rent makes sense

Best answer. Make sure to leave a detailed suicide note so they know it was their fault. That'll teach 'em.

>how is it acceptable to drop 1/3rd of your income just to be able to facilitate this
Different people have different priorities. Some people want to start a family ASAP, or not live with their parents but also not be alone. If you're happy living single under your parents' roof and they don't mind, then knock yourself out. It's definitely a smart economic move.

>Autism

Okay guys based on reading everything im 50/50.

On the one side I feel like children should pull their weight(at least paying for what they use), but on the other side should seems unfair to not give kids a headstart on life...

>Be Me
>17
>Parents support my decision to go to college 3 hours away
>help out the first couple months while I look for a job and attend college
>Get a job and support myself after that
>Now I work from home on my computer and let dad borrow money when he wants
>tell him he doesn't need to pay back but always does because he's too proud
>Did all this at 17

At least save up for a noose OP you useless piece of shit.