How would the Third Reich have developed politically and economically if Hitler never went full retard invading...

How would the Third Reich have developed politically and economically if Hitler never went full retard invading Germany's neighbors?

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a Right-Wing soviet Union

it would've crashed by 1940

Word of the holocaust would probably have led to an intervention, if the Reich hadn't split apart on its own after the Nazi's war economy sputtered out without an actual war to fight. It would be remembered similar to the way Portugal remembers Salazar, but more negative.

this also. The world doesn't take kindly to people killing their own.

The holocaust wouldnt be as bad as it was
Most of the killed were foreigners, jews were driven out of germany already due to persecutions

I find the idea interesting that it actually wouldnt have changed that much globally
Maybe a cold war between the allies and the german reich with the same outcome as in the real world

>Word of the holocaust would probably have led to an intervention

Except the Final Solution wasn't drafted until 1941...

The entire economy of the Third Reich was centered around funding invasions. They were spending 20% of their GDP on military expenditures. To put that in perspective, the modern USA spends roughly 4% of GDP per year on military expenditures. Hitler borrowed a shitload of money from other countries and used it to do 2 things. The first was to rebuild the German military. The second was to create a welfare state which secured his support among ordinary Germans. In short, he was like a kid charging buying everything he wanted and charging it to his dad's credit card. So then what happens when the credit card bill comes in? Hitler solved that problem by invading the same countries who had loaned him money in the first place. He used the plunder of war to pay off the debt. And that's basically how the economy of the 3rd Reich functioned. It was all based around plunder and slavery. They HAD to go to war. They had no choice. Their economic system depended on it.

I personally think the Cold War between the U.S. and USSR would've still occurred. Maybe without nukes. But, if that is the case, Germany would've been forced to take a side, and that's likely how the world would view them, whichever side they picked.

It literally wouldn't be the third reich without Hitler's autism, it's ingrained in the ideology.
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that is a good explanation but i don't see any sources

Economic collapse after Hitler's meme phantom went under

"Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy" by Adam Tooze

"Hitler's Beneficiaries: Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State" by Gotz Aly

Hjalmar Schacht could probably salvage german economy if he wasn't replaced in 1936 but at this point you aren't really dealing with 3rd Reich anymore, it's just Germany with fancy new logo but no longer autistic.

What even was the third reich without war?

You might say "if he didn't attack X or Y" or "if he didn't attack x or Y at this moment" but military conquest, and revenge for WW1 was THE purpose of the third reich.

They had approx. 40 000 000 000 marks debt even BEFORE the war ("official" government bonds + MEFO bills). They would have collapsed soon without the war. There had never been any economic miracle, just debts.

>no longer autistic.
But Germans would still control the country.

>You don't have to pay debts if you invade them

Fucking kek, it's like an ancap meme. I always think about this, what if you just don't pay your debts?

What are they going to do, nuke you? Look at Greece.

Autism needs to be measured by local standards.

>what if you just don't pay your debts?
Be ready to go full pogrom on the bankers then. Or enter Best Korea mode.

The biggest win was when they successfully invaded France, thus cancelling the enormous debt imposed by the Treaty of Versailles. The Third Reich was like an enormous pyramid scheme.

>War debt got you down in the dumps?
>Just invade the country that you own debt to, and make THEM pay YOU!
>Don't have enough money to launch an invasion?
>Just borrow money from other countries, use the money to expand your military, and then invade them so you never have to pay the money back!

The Holocaust wouldn't have happened without the war, or even a quick German victory

Probably their economic policy would've looked different (i.e. much less hazardous, just some Keynesianism) if they didn't plan to expand

Where's the proof for foreign loans, huh?

So that's why third world countries always nationalise the banks first and then get invaded.
That's really funny. Lenin was right, the capitalist will sell you a rope to hang him.

Reminder we could've had this

Soviet Union was already right-wing

t. Bordi-Trot

>What are they going to do, nuke you?

Stop giving you money in the future

>Man has mismatched shoes
WHAT THE FUCK?

He probably would have allied with the USSR and Kaiserreich (or Sozialistenreich) would have happened IRL.

Couldn't Speer have managed some more miracles? The dude was actually increasing German production despite most of their major urban centers and industrial areas being bombed to hell and back by the Allies in late '44 and throughout '45. Assuming this is a Germany that doesn't cause World War 2 and there's a peaceful transition of power after Hitler's eventual death be it assassination, illness, accident, etc...

The reparations of Versailles were canceled in 1932 because of the Great Depression; at that point, they just had to pay back loans + interest the German government received in the 1920s but these payments were stopped after Hitler rose to power. The armament was not financed with foreign debt but with an expansive monetary policy, the inflationary effects of which stemmed with price-controls and the MEFO-bill fraud.

This.

They got it, in the form of East-Germany.

The actual socialist uprising might have succeeded if Strasser and all his left wingers hadn't been murdered in the night of long knives, and the NSDAP had become the party of Hitler's personal ambitions.

The thing which provoked the German economic miracle was hijacked by right-wingers, who turned the great socialist uprising back onto itself and fucked it up for everybody, forever.

East Germany was what they got after being on the losing side of a ruinous world war

I wonder if Strasserists would prefer to live in the Third Reich or the GDR

It looks like he was injured in the foot, (notice the cane?) so he's not being made to wear a leather shoe on the foot which probably has a bullet hole or a piece of shrapnel stuck in it.