Is there a united German culture without Prussia or has German national identity really been defined by Prussia? What are some historical examples (pre-2945) of Central Germany uniting without Prussia. I've read that the confederation of the Rhine was a thing but don't know much about it.
Is there a united German culture without Prussia or has German national identity really been defined by Prussia...
Justin Howard
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Kayden Foster
*pre-1945.
Ryan Davis
>German
>People
Gabriel Jenkins
You idiot, what do you think the early HRE was, they were all Germans until Protestant scum ruined everything
Aiden Richardson
>Venetian is its own nationality
Admit it they're Scythians
Kevin Campbell
No meme answers pls
James Wright
>Venetian is its own nationality
It was an independent state, right?
Oliver Morris
Not even close
Henry Scott
Enlighten us then.
Jacob Stewart
There was a German nationalism centered around Habsburg austria up until WWI.
Charles Richardson
Let's take the Kingdoms of Italy and Bohemia, Burgundy and Wallonia as non-German examples.
The fact that Bohemia held an Electorate also disqualifies the idea of the HRE being of German Nation.
Brody Gonzalez
Even today Germany has non-Germans in it. Can the HRE be considered a pan-German state with non-German minorities? Sure.
Parker Hughes
Can the HRE be considered a pan-German state with a non-German electoral nation? Not so sure desu.
Can it be considered a state at all? I really don't think so.
Nolan Foster
>Can it be considered a state at all? I really don't think so.
Anything past tribal level can be considered a state.
Ian King
What is the point of haplogroup or DNA autism? Everyone just spergs and posts conflicting poorly sourced maps and it accomplishes nothing
Hunter Reyes
Joshua Jackson
Taking this definition every town and city can be considered as such, but the main point is the Bohemian electorate.
Logan Lewis
These autists really need something other than slow ass text-to-speech, it kills the whole thing
Henry Hall
user, i wouldnt ask here not a single person has brought up the German Confederation or the Austro-Prussian war its clear no one here knows history.
Until Prussia beat Austria the Germans were expecting an Austrian led Germany.
David Lopez
City-states are a thing. Should we consider some random independent village a state? I guess not. But i'd need to see examples of those throughout history which either aren't A.) A tribe or B.) Connected to some greater government even loosely.
Bentley Barnes
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>calls other people autists
Adrian Moore
It's you German that started it
You had no shame and called us(French and Southern Euros) mongrels but it backlashed on you and turn out that we're INFINITELY PURER THAN YOU
Now suffer by knowing that you're a mongrel and inferior in every way to French
Zachary Wright
Your defintion of a state is:
>Anything past tribal level can be considered a state.
So you can either stay with this definition or get another one.
If the emphasis is on the can, then we have won nothing with this definiton.
I consider the body controlled by the Souvereign as the state.