Tfw this is a male dominant board (and site for the most part) so not able to have extensive discussions about...

>Tfw this is a male dominant board (and site for the most part) so not able to have extensive discussions about historical fashion throughout different Eras and places.
>TFW war, /pol/ bait threads, and same old philosophy threads get boring or banal after a while.

Stop being a dandy and read war history.

I'll give you credit for not using double spacing but get off your phone.
If you want to start an actual thread instead of a bait thread start an actual thread.

I'm kind of fascinated by historical clothes but only for sexual fantasies.

Says who? I'll post what little I have, it's also one of my favorite subjects.

I don't much appeal in historical fashions from the female side. Compared to male fashions, women's seem plain and samey throughout most times and places. I feel bad for the women who go to reenacting events dressed in a boring peasant woman's dress while their husbands wear cool uniforms.

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Okay what the fuck was up with these wigs why did people want to look old

I'm on a tablet. But yeah I guess I can do that. How can you tell anyway?
I guess. With Egypt and Crete being the exceptions, most cultures had their women at least(if not men as well) dress pretty conservatively. Though I imagine it had to do with the climate too. That and the fact more cloth you can afford to wrap around yourself=wealth

I'm all for Veeky Forums Veeky Forums crossover.

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Why is Vietnamese fashion soo cutie? I also like Chinese Hanfu. Han dynasty was best dynasty!

>dress pretty conservatively
Which can be pretty sexy. Imagine all these women in their respective climates ungirding themselves or being ripped naked and raped by armored and toga men.

Brah...what are you taking about? In terms of peasants? novel females throughout history had some of the most elaborate costumes and hair styles. Men, for the most part(except for Renaissance ) was more plain.

Oh I don't disagree. Conservative dress is often much more elegant and beautiful in my opinion.Mostly with how they combined colors or make elaborate designs. I was just responding ding to user's comment about being turned on...unless you're him and you happen to have a fetish for more elegant styles.

Women's clothing doesn't compare.

I am him and I certainly do. And history has just had so much variety.

Meant Noble*

And yeah soldier uniforms were pretty handsome(I especially like the French and Roman legionnaire) but nothing tops these elaborate disease for women's clothing throughout history.

Pushing for historical figures in streetwear I see.

Bro I'm at this moment attempting to do historical clothing recreations of Mesoamerica. Already did the illustrations of the designs (which are occasionally posted here) and research and have models willing. Just collecting fabrics atm.

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*reconstructions.

During France in the 1700's it was a symbol of power. It cost a lot of money to be able to make white wigs and they would put powder in them to make them look white longer. It was also less damaging to the wig than using straight up dye.

Sure did. Am I the only one who gets kind of upset when a historical movie set in a specific time period fails to show clothing accurate to that time or even more often, place? English,Spanish, German, and French medieval fashion was not interchangeable REEEEEEEE!
>Has movie set in the dark ages, have women wearing renaissance dresses and knights wearing full plate.

Alright, but was there any rationalization for the aesthetics of it?

You aren't able to have extensive discussions about historical fashion because no one gives a shit and it isn't interesting. What is interesting is making note of how many non-white cultures have actually succeeded in the history of humanity.

cute
I agree, conservative dress done right actually makes women look much more attractive. Pic related.

Not really. Louis XIV started going bald at a young age and ordered a wig similar in style to the ones the other aristocrats started wearing. It was just a trend that caught on.

At least that's how I understand it.

Veeky Forums has more female posters than you would probably expect. The whole tits or gtfo meme just taught them not to flaunt it and blend in.

>Foot binding
I just learned what this is and my feet hurt

Kek. nice bait, user.if you don't want to participate in this thread you may leave, or better yet.

Those kids on the top left of your pick are cute OP.

Good thread

It's not bait, if you'd like I can have an in-depth discussion about Mesoamerican clothing, shall we start with gauze weave that produced sheer textiles (still worn in some communities in Mexico today)? Such as pic related of a Maya noblewoman. Or should I talk about the various ways to upper body garments of women in the region?

It's not exactly rare. I'm not sure how much the Japanese chonmage had to do with helmets rather than looking like you're balding (and thus older) but younger men who got the cut were 100% trying to look older either way.

That dutch nobleman is looking fly

Would you mind actually explaining? I'm really interested. Would love to see some of the pictures too.

>peasant women won't dress like this again

From one enthusiast to another, I have a question. Why does it seem like Japanese noble women didn't wear much jewelry, especially earrings, throughout the history of their culture? Outside, golden hairpins of course. It seemed very common throughout the world for status and expensive jewels+ cloth to go together. Even the Chinese,Tai and Vietnamese no nobles had jewels in excess.
Also next post this will be a historical Tai fashion thread.

I'd say both. We can start with upper garments of women. Though noble women dress always seems much more interesting...

Japanese barber:so what would you like today, son?

Edo/sengoku samurai:JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

>those huge Tang titties

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This is my guilty pleasure desu.

Agreed

Alright well upperbody garments for women varied depending on the region of Mesoamerica and era. The Maya probably have some of the most extensive references so I'll start with them. Before I start, I'll just mention that the most basic clothing item for women was the skirt which started at the waist and fell either to the feet or knees.

In the Preclassic (1200 bc- c.200) Maya women are not shown wearing much upper body garments. Pic related is from San Bartolo, a mural dating to 100 bc. The women can be seen surrounding the standing red figure which may the maize deity and the women around him his wives. The figure with the black paint on the face kneeling before him is not a female though. The style has Olmec influence still, and Olmec women are usually depicted naked or with skirts only. In the Classic period you start to see more upperbody garments.

Of what?England? France? sorry it just grinds my gears when people generalize European fashion at that time without referencing the nation.THIS is the correct way.

This to better illustrate my meaning. I guess the most similar to the Japanese with that were the Koreans.

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In the Classic period (c.200-900) you see upperbody garments of women vary a lot. The woman with the sheer clothing I first posted comes from this period. The usual upperbody garment was a huipil (a sleeveless blouse). Usually these were big, with arm holes starting at the elbow length or even to the wrists, draping the whole body. These were intricately colored and designed especially among the higher classes. They were made of cotton weaved on a backstrap loom, or made maguey fiber (a plant with a milky sap that was also used as a fermented drink). Here is an example of a Maya lady of Tikal greeting a king with her huipil.

From what kinds of records do scholars get this information about Mesoamerica? I've heard most of the records were destroyed by Spanish chimpouts.

We need to bring cleavage'd bodices back.

You literally see more cleavages nowadays than in the 18th century, tf.

Perhaps. But I like all types of bodices

Cultural fasion in general imo
Trying to get my asian gf to wear fig.20 If I had more money i'd try and get her to wear the more fancy stuff

These were buried in ruins by the time the conquistadors came, and the art work of this period is pretty clear. So some from archeology, and also from Spanish and other Europeans exploring who wrote information down. Undoubtedly we would know more if so many codices weren't deliberately destroyed. Mesoamerica also has the bad luck of having poor climate for preservation so many textiles and books of earlier periods were destroyed by the climate. This is also why we have no wood or feather art, not to mention body art. So we only have a small bit of actual Mesoamerican artwork survive.
Some huipils had very low cuts, to the point that breasts and nipples were visible. Such as this woman with a hat. Though these lowcuts are speculated to be worn by courtesans, women who entertain men and do them favors (sorta like geishas or escorts).

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Danke

Not in a formal setting. And when they do, they usually just show the crack, not the whole top halves of tits.

Tank tops are pretty damn informal.

>Trying to get my asian gf to wear fig.20
A man of culture right there.

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Here are the tai photo bombs

Were these the Visagoths? Didn't know their women were basically topless.

Was this type of garment a thing? It's really pretty actually

Inaccurate movie prop shit.

Try this one.

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which era

Wtf is that hair? Kill it

Is that man on the bottom right pregnant?

Naw just really fat.

Seriously, it's almost like cornrows in a bun

Sea Peoples or people of the Aegan sea I think, this is bronze age by the looks of it.

Forgive me. How could I be such a pleb?

Awesome. Thanks user

Forgot pic.

For your pleasure.

Some more hair variations.Ignore the weeb shit.

Aside from huipils Maya women in the Classic period also occassionally had capes over their huipils, or wore rounded quechquemitls. Sometimes they wore sarongs that wrapped under the arms, and hung down to the thighs. A longer one piece sarong that wrapped the whole body was also sometimes worn.

In the Postclassic period (c.1000-1500) you get new garments like the netted top, scarf-like jacket, and mexican style quechquemitl. Toplessness appears to have occured throughout their history too. In the postclassic period it was more common inland, while on the coast they tended to wear upper body garments more. Commoners likely were topless as well. Pic related gives you a good idea of Mesoamerican clothing for women in general, including the Maya.

Do you have pics of actors wearing them or sketches?

Pictures I drew or from Maya artwork of the courtesans?

Sketches drawn by historians(which I guess includes you). Actually, nevermind just now saw

Even this type of armor was probably ceremonial.

wew lad

That's kinda pathetic, I assumed there would be more nuanced fanciness to it.

what would this board look like if the genders were flipped? would it be less military history dominated?

IMO, most women I know who are into history are less about fashion, and more about obsessing with the world's royalty and nobility.

He has the coolest title. Motherfucking Dragon King.

Mythology, historical fashion, historical food and probably irl disney princesses and some philosophy.

Minimalist modernist traditionalist fashion is where it's at homie.

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Gonna dump some Veeky Forums shit

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>1919
>long hair

whore

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