Was the USSR initially an attempt of a Jewish Nationalist state?

Was the USSR initially an attempt of a Jewish Nationalist state?

Lenin was Jewish, his desired successor Trotsky was Jewish. Most of the key figures in the Bolshevik Revolution were Jews.

Orthodox Churches were ransacked and clergy were slaughtered during the Russian Civil War. After the Reds won, Lenin declared that members of the church could not hold land or practice their religion. All their property was seized. Did the Jews suffer similar treatment?

Lenin declared antisemitism a crime, and calling someone a "Yid" could land you in jail for up to a year. Did any other ethnic groups receive such treatment?

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>Most of the key figures in the Bolshevik Revolution were Jews.

False. Stop reading cherrypicked infographics ne pick an actual book.

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Why do Jews WE WUZNT so hard when it comes to communism? It's pathetic.

Because you're on Veeky Forums and you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

I don't know. Why do /pol/tards try to go so hard to DEY WUZ when it comes to connecting Jews and communism? Lenin wouldn't have been considered a Jew under the Nuremburg laws. Let that sink in for a minute.

>Why did Jews militantly push an ideology that says everyone is equal in Russia?
gee fuck me, maybe because they got pogromed all the time?
>Harvest is shit?
>JEWS
>Don't have any money
>JEWS
Jews were the Tsarist boogeyman for white slavery

Don't bother. When you finally get them to admit there were a lot of jews involved in Communism at the high levels they just chalk it up to jews being oppressed and being naturally drawn to revolutionary movements. Then you ask why so many jews are still involved in Communism in the current year despite being one of the wealthiest demographics in the usa they disappear. It's the same old song and dance time and time again and the jews obviously have a benefit to distancing themselves from communism as much as they can despite every major communist intellectual of past and present being BLATANTLY Jewish.

>Muh Gommunism in 2017
They're social dems, which is even worse, don't give them the credit of being communists

Really? I wasn't aware that Jews were disproportionately Communist in the current day. Can you show anything to that effect? And I don't want a list of Jewish communists, I want some statistics about how many Jews are drawn to communism as opposed to other ideologies, because we have quite a few Jews in other economic philosophies as well.

Jews were at the forefront of all intellectual movements for the last 200 years and you goyim are simply going to have to live with it.

>Did the Jews suffer similar treatment?

Yes.

>Lenin declared antisemitism a crime

No, he didn't.

>inb4 infographic

How do these conspiracy theories work? How can Jews be greedy bankers AND communists at the same time? Huh, it's almost like people project their own problems onto Jews without evidence.

>False. Stop reading cherrypicked infographics ne pick an actual book.
actually you should start reading a real history book, Marx was a uber jew, Trotsky was a jew , Lenin was a jew and so were many others

This is the part where you start trying to claim that Stalin was Jewish. Go on, keep going.

>How can Jews be greedy bankers AND communists at the same time?
because they end up controlling the world one way or another. even in communism the wealth was still concentrated in the hands of a few jewish administrators ( till the 60s). the name doesn't mater, who rules does
you just fell for a jewish trick

I think /pol/ call it the blackpill, where you just give up on life, because that's winning apparently

Explain to me why Stalin purged the shit out of kikes in the doctor trials and the trials against the Jews who opposed fascism then? Go on

no he was georgian, still an asshole who didn't care for anyone. read Gulag Archipelago

Marx wasn't even Lenin's biggest influence.

So if the Jews control everything then why shouldn't I support them?

>Stalin was georgian
>Trostky was a jew
>in the end he grew tired of them, the jews tryed to jew but Stalin didn't take shit from them
When Krushcevh came USSR basically became anti-Israel, but till than they USSR and Israel were allies, see Rosenberg treason trials

because they actively support the destruction of the white race through moral relativity, critical theory, degeneracy and ethnic displacement
white people are the engines of progress of humanity, without us the world would stagnate

>"Stalin was bad!!!!!!!!!!!"
>Ignoring the fact that he defeated Hitler

> but till than they USSR and Israel were allies
Then why did they try to make their own Jewish state based on Yiddish in Siberia? Why did they arm Palestinians? Why were they militantly atheists? Why did the Soviet military insist on that Atheism? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

>Whites the master race
>Yet they are apparently controlled by Jews

It appears that Jews are the master race.

Israel and USSR were allies till Nikita Khrushchev came to power
in the 50s the soviets were pro-Israel, they even sold them weapons, the KGB was full of jews back than
the arabs would anihilate Israel if the jews stop having western protection

>Israel and USSR were allies till Nikita Khrushchev came to power
Is that why all the Doctor Trials against Jews happened in the 50's and Stalin prevented Jews from leaving for Israel?

Stalin still killed a shitload of his own countrymen in his own purges.

And the west is controlled by Jews, therefore Jews are obviously the master race.

>The arabs would anihilate the jews when they stop having western production

>So its in the best interest of the jews to destroy the west and replace it with Arabs

So what? Hitler would have gassed every single Russian if he hadn't been stopped. Stalin saved millions of lives.

Obviously, also Jews fucking LOVE Muslims, forget the dozen or so wars they've fought, they want to destroy whites so they can have a world order that despises them and won't pay for shit because this benefits them, apparently

Virtually all of what you posted is simply incorrect factually.
Lenin was an atheist, and only a small percentage of the original central committee was ethnically Jewish.

Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev served as First Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1953 to 1964, and as Chairman of the Council of Ministers, or Premier, from 1958 to 1964.
divide et impera
literally that. whites used to oppose jewish interest, so they had to come up with a plan to reduce the influence of that group. by creating a multi-kulti society with multiple competing groups and no clear majority-group they can take power more easily. the jews have been jewing for 2000 years now, they know nobody is better than them at controlling a society were they don't have a clear ''top predator''

And beyond that, the USSR suppressed all religion, especially Judaism.

The Jewish Autonomous Oblast (Russian: Eвpéйcкaя aвтoнóмнaя óблacть, Yevreyskaya avtonomnaya oblast; Yiddish: ייִדישע אװטאָנאָמע געגנט, yidishe avtonome gegnt[14]) is a federal subject of Russia (an autonomous oblast) in the Russian Far East, bordering Khabarovsk Krai and Amur Oblast in Russia and Heilongjiang province in China.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast
looks to me like they have priviliged status

>by creating a multi-kulti society with multiple competing groups and no clear majority-group they can take power more easily
>hey guys we need a group to disseminate whites
>What about blacks?
>too obvious
>Well guess we'll use the one religion on the planet that absolutely despises us and left wing teenagers sympathize with
How are Jews running the world again? They don't seem very good at this

No. Communism was supposed to be against any kind of nationalism or racism. Also Lenin would not be considered Jewish under the Nuremberg Race Laws.

>Jews have been plotting for 2.000 years now, and throughout those 2.000 years that scheme has never been truly revealed or just simply died

Yeah, still not buying it

>whites used to oppose jewish interest, so they had to come up with a plan to reduce the influence of that group

So they came up with a plan to replace whites with Muslims who rabidly hate Jews. Awesome plan. Weird how right-wing parties tend to universally pro-Israel, whereas left-wing parties tend to be much more neutral or even openly anti-Israel, yet in this fantasy world of yours, "the jews" desperately want you to vote for left-wing parties that don't support Israel, rather than right-wing parties who are extremely supportive of Israel.

>Kicking them out of the country
>Privileged status

Trotsky is the only one of those who would be considered Jewish under Hitler's laws and all of them were atheists and opposed to religion anyways.

All parties are pro Jewish even sections of the Democrats that cow tow to Palestinians do not oppose Jewish rule in any meaningful way. Zog is real.

This, Obama made my frogs gay

The Democrats are an example of a political party that is more neutral, whereas the Republicans are very pro-Israel. Obama even allowed the UN to pass a judgement condemning Israel, which is something that the UN has tried to do for literally decades but always got vetoed by the US. Hell, the current Republican president even has a daughter who converted to Judaism.

read PanEuropa by Kudhoven-Kalergi
the rabbinical tradition formed when the jews were for the first time expelled from Israel by the babylonians. These deportations are dated to 597 BCE for the first, with others dated at 587/586 BCE, and 582/581 BCE respectively.
so actually it's more like 1500 years
>Weird how right-wing parties tend to universally pro-Israel
those aren't real fascists :)
mainstream right-wing parties like Israel because they are nationalistic
>left-wing parties tend to be much more neutral or even openly anti-Israel
antifa is openly attacking anti-semites
all of them were raised in a jewish-tought influenced environment. the jewish intellectuals have a superiority complex and believe they are saviors of humanity, hence radical politics, like gommunism

>America = the entirity of the white world

Any Europeans in here? Let's see what our political parties say:

In the Netherlands it's like this
Right-wing:
PVV: Pro-Israel
VVD: Pro-Israel
FVD: Pro-Israel
VNL (Didn't make it through the elctions): Pro-Israel
SGP: Pro-Israel
Christian union: Pro-Israel
Jesus lives (an actual party): Pro-Israel
CDA: Mixed oppinions
D66: Mixed oppinions

Now for the lefties:
Socialist party: Anti-Israel
Greenleft: Anti-Israel
Animal rights party: Anti-Israel
Denk: Anti-Israel
Labour: Anti-Israel

Oy gevalt, vote for the leftie parties that hate us and want to see our jewish ethnostate gone

bigger dimension

Then "real fascists" don't exist because basically every right-wing part in the modern western world is pro-Israel. Wow, I guess the Jews win again. No point in even trying to fight them.

>one """"good"""" makes up for all of those evils.
False.
Also killing Hitler was arguably good.

real fascists are doing hard years oif jail time for ''hate speeach''. a lot of real fascists don't openly talk about their beliefes.all far right groups right now are prepping for the inevitable bloody end of the multi-kulti experiment in a couple of decades

/pol/ has already ruined Veeky Forums and i see that the infection has already spread here too,

>read fanfiction by someone who agrees with me
Why do Jews in Israel hate niggers and Americanand European Jews love them? Are you telling me they have secret phone calls at the synagogue where they all coordinate their efforts? No you fucking retard they were brought up in different climates

MAGApedes ruin fucking everything, even /pol/

While /pol/ is all over this board they are hardly on Veeky Forums and when they are it is to shill one of the dumb e-celeb books like Sam Hyde's.

Still doesn't explain why "The Jews" would want you to vote for left-wing parties that don't support Israel. In order for this conspiracy worldview to make any sense, "The Jews" would have to be very supportive of right-wing parties. And that's basically true, at least as far as Israeli Jews are concerned. If Israel could make Republicans win every election, they would.

My god. Are you trying to suggest that Jews are capable of independent thought, even to the point of sometimes disagreeing with other Jews?

It takes true unbridled retardation to ruin the shittiest boards here (/pol/, /tv/, /v/) all in a matter of months.
Is this going to be the final summer of Veeky Forums?

>>read fanfiction by someone who agrees with me
Richard Nikolaus Eijiro, Count of Coudenhove-Kalergi[1] (November 16, 1894 – July 27, 1972) was an Austrian-Japanese politician, philosopher, and count of Coudenhove-Kalergi. The pioneer of European integration, he served as the founding president of the Paneuropean Union for 49 years which would be the preliminary ideological foundation of the European Union.
pic related
jews are divided in multiple groups and ideologies. jews in israel are building the home of the chosen people
jews in the western world are undermining our societies and placing their interest above that of goym, the cattle
american jews have both isdes in their pockets, they don't care who wins, both parties have their back. this left-right dichotomy is bullshit to confuse you. there is another way , the third way, partiotism and racial pride

Sorry, my mistake, Jews are a gestalt and they all think and behave the exact same way, and that is to destroy their main consumer base (whites) so blacks and Muslims can take over. Because somehow they win on this deal

How to marry Jewess gf?

There's no point in resisting them centuries of eugenic pressure as money changers in medieval Europe made them an unstoppable force. Nietzsche was right.

>The right-left dichotomy is a lie, don't support it!
>But make sure you support right-wing parties otherwise the Jews win!

I don't know user, this sounds familiar...

they only accept goym males if they hold considerable power and the rabinnical council decide that you could further their agenda and bolster their influence

So they only accept alphas? Wow that's way more stringent than the rules for LARPing as a retard on Veeky Forums, I need to look into this

supprt patriotic parties that protect your cultural and genetic make-up
and who gave Israel to the zionists?

>and who gave Israel to the zionists?
America, it was trust territory before that the British oppsed any Jew immigration to
>B-but muh Balfour
No one cared then and no one should care now, Lawrence also promised it to Arabs, and before 1948 they literally didn't give a fuck if some Jews got blown up by Arabs. No one ever brings that shit up because it ruins MUH JOOS narrative

>actually, unironically using "the spartacist uprising was the only part of the german revolution!!" meme
go back to the trash where you belong

Actual quote
>"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

All the sailors were jewish, don't you see WW1 was Jewish plot to destroy the white race and not at all stupid fuckfest about infantile cock measuring in world diplomacy!
>One Jew said it so all must think it
Just like Is said gravy is better than red wine jus and everyone agrees with me

/pol/'s one drop rule is at it again.
Lenin was just as Jewish as he was Chuvash. His Jewish ancestor, his mother's father, even converted to Christianity and married a German.

you should research early British Israelism. basically a bunch of anglos that believed Jesus will onlky return when the jews rule Israel again. they worked for decades to give Israel to the zionists, they included wealthy and affluent people and their influce shouldn't be dismmised
maybe you would listen more to a left-winger, Bakunin, pic related

There is even more. He compares this new race to ancient Egyptians. It's just one of many utopian programs for the future. I think he also mixed two books, because there is nothing about Jews in his Pan-Europa manifesto.

>you should research early British Israelism
I have, and what a funny thing that the British givernment would oppose any notion of Jewish nationalism that they had to be trained by an autistic guy who ate raw fucking onions and the government banned him from ever going back? It's almost like it was lip service to win a war and went too far, really makes you fucking think doesn't it?

yes exactly, I don't see where I'm wrong. the destruction of the white populations in order to recreate an ''egyptian-like people''
you can see this all around you today

>maybe you would listen more to a left-winger, Bakunin, pic related
i would love to if you actually gave a source for that quote besides a shitty image macro

>yes exactly, I don't see where I'm wrong.
maybe the part where you posted a fake quote to support your argument

>destruction
There is nothing about their destruction.
>you can see this all around you today
They started Syrian civil war or Arab spring to destroy Europe? Nonsense.

Fuck off back to /pol/, you faggot

>Bakunin was an idiotic antisemite who thought Marx a Jew when he wasn't raised in the culture nor was whole ethnically Ashkenazi

Source: Michael Bakunin, 1871, Personliche Beziehungen zu Marx. In: Gesammelte Werke. Band 3. Berlin 1924. P. 204-216.
the jews outjewed the british, so where is the flaw in my rethoric?
it wasn't a quote, it was more like a summary :)
>Syria
Israeli Intelligence chief : We do not want isis defeat in Syria. In a speech delivered at “Herzliya” conference yesterday , Halevy explicitly said “Israel” does not want the situation in Syria to end with the defeat of ISIS “, the Israeli NRG site reported.

“Withdrawal of the super powers from the region and letting Israel alone in front of Hezbollah and Iran that possess good abilities Will make “Israel” in a hard position” . Therefore, we’ve to do all we can so as not finding ourselves in such situation”, the Israeli chief intelligence added.
globalresearch.ca/israeli-intelligence-chief-we-do-not-want-an-isis-defeat-in-syria/5532391
rude :( not all kekistanis, we are here to enrich your board :)

>where is the flaw in my rethoric?
That Israel controlled Britain when the British were racist as fuck to Jews and deferred to Arabs in all things? This isn't hard, at least try to be fucking coherent

Jews gonna Jew. What else is new?

>expelled ~100 times over ~2200 years
how is this impressive again

Don't forget how most of these are from individual cities. You know how many times Catholics and Protestants got expelled from cities in the 30 years war alone?

They like to leave out the reasons why
protip: It was because they owed them money from poor fiscal policy

>globalresearch
Isn't this a Russian controlled site? But even if it's true, their reason has nothing to do with migrants or "white genocide".

>“Withdrawal of the super powers from the region and letting Israel alone in front of Hezbollah and Iran that possess good abilities Will make “Israel” in a hard position”
But islamization of Europe is their goal? Imagine all those Muslim European countries with nukes. Are Jews suicidal?

>it wasn't a quote, it was more like a summary :)
good attempt to deflect from the fact you posted something demonstrably false to support your argument

>Russia and Moscow listed separately

>Are Jews suicidal?
He's just going to shitpost about MUH SAMSON
Why even bother?

but the jews got Israel in the end right? so I guess they did outjew the anglos
>~2200 years more like 1700, and no that is not normal, they are the only race on earth with that record, hell other people got expelled from one or two countries at worst
not an argument, they got expelled from multiple countries, sometimes multiple times from the same coutnry after they were allowed to return
and ususry, and unfair commercial competition, and selling vice, and blood rituals involving goym ( you want the redpill on that :) ?
the jews will rule the dumb muslim masses, it's not rocket science. you know the jews were heavily implicated in the fall of apartheid too right? same story

>Literally muh blood libel: The post
Those darn dirty Joos, busting into churches to pierce the host of Christ, totally accurate information devoid of any bias, I fucking hate Israel but faggots like you are just embarrassing

>that pic
Neocons are the biggest Zionism pushers, not liberals. Liberals and socialists tend to sympathize with Palestine.

>and ususry, and unfair commercial competition

So in other words, the Jews were kicked out for being too capitalistic. But I thought they were supposed to be communists?

>the jews will rule the dumb muslim masses
And now you're going full retard. The only people allegedly controlled by the Jews are educated liberals. Muslims everywhere hate them. Poor, uneducated people also are more likely to be anti-semites.

The Jews would control Islamic Europe when they are afraid and can't do anything about fucking Hezbollah and Iran? lol

>after they were allowed to return
it's funny how they kept letting the oh-so-hated, horrible jews return time and time again
it's almost as if that other user was right and rulers let jews in because they were poor as fuck and needed money then kicked them out so they wouldn't have to pay denbts :)

>the jews will rule the dumb muslim masses

The same Muslims that rabidly hate Jews?

>not an argument, they got expelled from multiple countries, sometimes multiple times from the same coutnry after they were allowed to return
It is an argument, you're just too stupid to understand why. Lots of other religious groups also got expelled from multiple political communities, so there's really nothign special about DA JOOZ

have you heard of Sabatai Zevi, you should research it
Most people have heard of Jesus Christ, considered the Messiah by Christians, and who lived 2000 years ago. But very few have ever heard of Sabbatai Zevi, who declared himself the Messiah in 1666. By proclaiming redemption was available through acts of sin, he amassed a following of over one million passionate believers, about half the world's Jewish population during the 17th century.

Although many Rabbis at the time considered him a heretic, his fame extended far and wide. Sabbatai's adherents planned to abolish many ritualistic observances, because, according to the Talmud, holy obligations would no longer apply in the Messianic time. Fasting days became days of feasting and rejoicing. Sabbateans encouraged and practiced sexual promiscuity, adultery, incest and religious orgies.

After Sabbati Zevi's death in 1676, his Kabbalist successor, Jacob Frank, expanded upon and continued his occult philosophy. Frankism, a religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on his leadership, and his claim to be the reincarnation of the Messiah Sabbatai Zevi. He, like Zevi, would perform "strange acts" that violated traditional religious taboos, such as eating fats forbidden by Jewish dietary laws, ritual sacrifice, and promoting orgies and sexual immorality. He often slept with his followers, as well as his own daughter, while preaching a doctrine that the best way to imitate God was to cross every boundary, transgress every taboo, and mix the sacred with the profane
if by forming monopolies and underselling the competition you mean capitalims....the name really doesn't matter if they get to rule
Saudi Arabia for example is already in cahoots with the israelis so I believe a similar arrangement of mutual benefit will be worked out for Europe too
or maybe they used their influence in royal courts to return
ask the saudis, they seem to get along fine