How long will it take for Israel to be treated fairly?

How long will it take for Israel to be treated fairly?

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Israel deserves all the criticism it gets and more. They will never have peace and they don't deserve it. Fuck the zionist pigs who think they can steal the land that people have been living on for generations in this day in age. Fucking self-righteous zionist pigs. The Israelis think they are more important than the Palestinians. They think the Palestinians are dogs. You can't steal someone's land in a bloody war then expect peace.

are you sure that's the way it goes?

The palestians barely used most of the land which was essentially a desert, it wasn't until the jews irrigated everything and it became wealthy that they returned in anger

Israel won't go away, and in a few years from now everyone who was involved in those firat choices will be dead, which will mean that it will basically become a empty diatribe.

Compromise is the only way, unless you're willing to kill people only because their great-great grandfathers lived in a country that had some fucked up policies. In this case virtually every person in the world would deaerve the sqme treatment.

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Why do you defend Apartheid so vehemently?

When Israel starts treating their neighbors with some ethics.

Today, either the Palestinian territory is occupied territory - in which case Israel is guilty of war crimes under the Geneva convention,
or the Palestinian territory is a part of Israel - in which case, Israel is an apartheid state.

Israel is guilty of collective punishment. That's a Geneva conventions violation, and considered a war crime.

Israel is guilty in two ways. First, demolishing the home of a terrorist is punishing the family that lives there. A family is not guilty of terrorism; an individual is. This punishes innocent people for crimes they did not commit. It's punishing the family collectively for the actions of an individual.

Second, the blockade is collective punishment of the entire Pali community. Israels claims that the blockade is to prevent "dual use" items that can be re-purposed for military use. But nobody has ever managed to explain to me what military use there is for items such as frozen meat, chicks (baby chickens), marjoram, coriander, chocolate, potato chips, and jams, jellies, and preserves. The only explanation imaginable for banning such items is collective punishment.

A 2007 memo from the Israeli military that details how the IDF want to limit the food in the Gaza strip and West Bank to semi starvation levels. It even counted calories and detailed the number of food trucks that needed to pass the checkpoints to enforce this diet. Unfortunately, the military didn't bother telling the people at the checkpoints, so the 204 trucks per day quota was not always met. So the Palis were limited to an even more restricted diet than the semi-starvation the military had in mind. Today, 30% of Palestinian children are physically and mentally stunted; a condition from which one never recovers even if the source of the malnutrition is removed.

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Perhaps this is why Israel has banned some food stuffs as having "dual use". I'm still waiting for an explanation as to what possible military use there is for such items as potato chips, candy, jams, jellies, fruit preserves, various herbs and spices, live chicks and frozen meat; all banned from import by Israel at one time or another.

At least the ban on farm equipment has some merit. I can see tractors and repair parts being used to make weapons. But the result is still the same - Palestinian farmers are increasingly forced to rely on horse and oxen powered farming methods typically associated with medieval times.

Combine that with so-called "buffer zones" in a criss cross pattern all over Palestinian territory - accounting for roughly 17% of all Palestinian farm land. These "no-go" zones are enforced by IDF snipers. But the zones are not clearly marked or even defined - leaving the demarcation up to the judgement of individual snipers. Since 2008, over 200 Pali farmers have been wounded and another 100 have died by sniper fire while trying to tend their fields. Some of them were shot hundreds of feet away from any such no-go zone. To date, no IDF sniper has ever been prosecuted for shooting civilians.

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Aside from IDF snipers, the Israelis have killed over 160 knife wielders. While self defense is acceptable, it's hard to imagine any other police force in the world killing over 90% of the perpetrators it tries to arrest. Even those who survive have it rough. Palestinians who commit crimes are tried by a military court; with abbreviated civil rights. Jews who commit the same crimes are tried by a civilian court with full civil protections. And that's only the beginning. Members of the Israeli parliament debate whether they should try all non-Jews by military court - whether citizen or not - only emphasizing their desire for a full fledged, unapologetic apartheid state. Israeli military interrogations can be brutal; resulting in permanent nerve damage even for those not charged with any crime. Children as young as 13 have been released from IDF custody with permanent nerve damage, limiting the use of their fingers, hands, and feet.

And then there's the recent aerial spraying of herbicides on Palestinian crops. Aerial spraying is not the most accurate method available. so the spray affects much more than the crops they're intended to kill. But even so, the herbicide used is strong enough to kill plants for up to 3 years. When asked about it, the IDF didn't even bother trying to deny it. They claim it's "for security reasons". What security threat spinach, pea, and bean plants pose to Israel remains unclear - also unclear is the need to destroy over 54,000 acres of Pali crops in just the first 2 months of this year alone.

Of course, 3 years after IDF snipers have shot or otherwise chased a Pali farmer from his fields, under Israeli law, the land can be seized and given to Jewish settlers - and a new "buffer zone" is established. Maybe that's why they're spraying such overpowered defoliants on Palestinian fields.

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