Was the genocide of Natives one of the biggest atrocities ever committed?

it's up there

>Not really. It was a war, not a genocide.

wasn't even really a war...there were wars but there was a lot more fucking and trade.

I don't think you know what the definition of American is. It means Anglo-Saxon white person.

Also we can't go back to Europe. There's nothing but Arabs and niggers there.

>injun
>american
go back to asia

there was no genocide of natives

>plague killing a bunch of people is a genocide just because they were brown

please stop this meme

>Amerindian tribes genocided each others too
>Therefore it wasn't a genocide.

underage bait

Yeah because war is genocide and I was suggesting just that.

Get off the internet, take a break and return when you're ready

Why was it the indians who got slaughtered by European diseases and not the Europeans who got slaughtered by American diseases?

This is objectively wrong.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples

It pretty much puts all the other genocides to shame.

The Injuns came from Siberia tho

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_massacres
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre_of_1622

cherry picking, I can post the same shit for the opposing side.

It was war

Yes but thankfully they are mostly all dead or inebriated alcoholics living on reserves so we don't have to apologize or pay any reparations.

I like how in America, they just didn't really give a fuck that however many thousand natives had to die for the colonists to take claim of the nation. Whether through direct violence or unintentional spreading of foreign disease, it wouldn't be a big stretch to consider it "genocide", even if the actual goal was not the eradication of an entire peoples. And what do American natives have to say about this? Usually nothing more than "Shit sucks man, that was super unfair, but at least we're still around, still keeping our culture strong, and we all have successful jobs and good lives here in the modern world where we aren't really oppressed anymore and have the understanding of most of the nation of how we suffered."

But over here in Canada, we played nice, fought them fairly in war, and when they lost (not by a huge margin either), we still let them live on their land and do their own thing, just in designated areas surrounding or apart from major European settlements. Over time they let these reserves fall into squalor and disrepair, so it became clear that native children's education was either lacking or completely absent. The church decided to take many of them into local makeshift public schools that they went out of their way to establish for the education of native children. Unfortunately, being run by the church, public school consisted of strict and harsh Christian doctrine, and required the christian faith of all students, which is why they kept trying to convert the students and distance them from their native spiritual beliefs, or as our indigenous populations put it "tried to kill the native in the child".

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And now Canadian natives are trying to draw direct similarities to American natives, even going so far as to call these "evil" public schools of the past "Cultural Genocide" that whites and/or the government (it's never clear which) need to repay them for (and it's always never enough) in order for them to keep twisting the arm of our pussy government to throw more money at them, money that the corrupt chiefs just keep pocketing at the expense of their own people, as their reserves fall into even further squalor and their people all resort to homelessness, crime, and living off welfare, all the while those same chiefs continue to point their fingers at the government and whites to deflect blame and responsibility.

Indians didn't live with so many animals like eurasian and africans did. Those animals had diseases that jumped to humans. If natives had horses and domesticated them there would be deadly diseases going the other way around. Instead the only outbreak gping thr other way was some cocolitzli or whatever its called and syphilis. For the natives there was like over a dozen diseases.

Tbf canadian boarding schools were cultural genocides same as australian schools.

T. Euro anchor baby

It was unironically the best thing that happened for the current residents of the US

>and the whole Trail of Tears debacle that /do/ count among the great atrocities of history,
Meh, it was just a dime a dozen displacement, not to tu quoque, but the Soviets did that loads of different ethnic groups. I mean it certainly sucked and was an ugly moment in history but it definitely doesn't reach top 100 hundred atrocities in history in my book.

Wrong. It means a citizen of the US.

Yes, the totality of it speaks volumes.

>Massacred
Nope. There were massacres but disease killed most of them.
>100 Million
Also wrong. The native population is a highly debated topic but very few historians or scholars agree with the 100 million number.

this from a guy who probably runs in his room crying when his mom wont buy him the newest iphone

>Takes up a whole continent
>does nothing to further humanity
but but we have a rich culture

>but mom I need the newest iOS to trigger those libcuck SJW snowflakes and shitpost!

It's still happening

who cares, native blood is now much more widespread than it ever has been

>conveniently denies warrior cultures altogether
Christ this is a history board read some fucking history

They weren't some unarmed lemmings in the woods ready to be conquered

They were a force to be reckoned with

>does nothing to further humanity

>does nothing to further humanity
This is a bullshit point tho. The Americas were settled late compared to the old world, and had varying levels of civilization throughout different cultures by the time Euros began colonizing, but desu I don't put fault on the less advanced cultures because European history has been very similar in that regard. You also have them to thank for why things like mesoamerican maths and astronomy never made a significant impact. The early colonizers chimped out and destroyed most of their codices containing knowledge on the subjects.

In any case, you could still thank the Native Americans for the domestication of corn, which is entirely different from what it originally was.

Your view about American natives is a bit wrong. The only real "successful" natives are the few who own the casinos, lots of native tribes are just as bad as your description of Canadian natives with lots of alcoholism and corruption.

Ok why the hell are you putting succesful in quotes? I have been to Native communities and yes, there are successful ones that have successful people in them.

What?

Good.

Prove him wrong. What have Amerindians contributed to humanity?

CORN YOU FUCKING FGT I LITERALLY JUST SAID IT

Not him but really though, do you know how many products contain corn or use ingredients derived from it? Look it up. You'll be surprised.

we're talking about contributions here, not detriments.

Corn is huge man I aint gona lie , but the Indians were sitting on all those resources and not doing anything with em.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few , and humanity went to the moon with those resources

rockets aren't powered by ethanol dumbass

>They were a force to be reckoned with

verily...should be noted that the US Army often needed to employ other Indians to get the tactical upper-hand.

my apologize I should have said, we got to the moon faster with the full utilization of the resources found on the north American continent

>detriment
Christ...

>the Indians were sitting on all those resources and not doing anything with em.
Depends on which region of the Americas. The natives near the equator were certainly making use of the resources around them, although the amount they utilized certain materials is incompatible with Europe's development. Progress is not linear when it comes to the development of civilizations, natives in other parts of the Americas had varying levels of advancement.

>humanity went to the moon with those resources
What the fuck? That was thousands of years in the making, and hundreds after conquest and colonization.

Inspired enlightenment ideas which set a trend across the european world.

Yes it was, but such is History. Won't get anywhere by saying sorry a thousand times.

I don't understand how you expect Indians to industrialize and shit when they were cut off from the Old World until the 1500's Access to global trade is important yo, that's how technologies difuse

Explain.

The white's probably would've discovered the corn even if the Natives didn't introduce them to it

>implying the faggots on Veeky Forums have contributed to society