Should bomber Harris be considered a war criminal?
Should bomber Harris be considered a war criminal?
he should do it again
>"""""war criminals"""""
War by its definition is law fails and it comes down to who is the strongest.
DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS
it's only a crime if you lose the war
>Strategic bombing
>War crime
Nothing he did was against either written or customary international law.
Hippies will never be able to refute this.
No!
Should bomber Harris be considered a war hero?
Yes!
>Examples of war crimes include intentionally killing civilians or prisoners, torture, destroying civilian property
By definition he is a war criminal
en.wikipedia.org
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
Yeah.
its mostly wheraboos that try
The germanophobia of this board is ridiculous when you consider most contemporary German abhor Nazis and are proud members of the global liberal order (more than Brits and Americans, even).
>pretending this board doesn't make fun of weebs as well as wehrs
Why don't you start a GoFundMe for victims of memes?
>most contemporary German abhor Nazis and are proud members of the global liberal order
that's almost as bad as being a nazi
>After World War II, the massive destruction of non-combatant targets inflicted during the war prompted the victorious Allies to address the issue when the Nuremberg Charter was enacted, establishing the procedures and laws by which the Nuremberg Trials were to be conducted. Article 6(b) of the Charter thus condemned the "wanton destruction of cities, towns or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity" and classified it as a violation of the laws or customs of war, therefore, making it a war crime. This provision was similarly made at the Tokyo Trials to try Japanese military and civilian leaders for illegal conducts committed during the Pacific War with the enactment of the Tokyo Charter. However, due to the absence of positive or specific customary international humanitarian law prohibiting illegal conducts of aerial warfare in World War II, the indiscriminate bombing of enemy cities was excluded from the category of war crimes at the Nuremberg and Tokyo Trials, therefore, no Axis officers and leaders were prosecuted for authorizing this practice. Furthermore, the United Nations War Crimes Commission received no notice of records of trial concerning the illegal conduct of air warfare.[20] Chris Jochnick and Roger Normand in their article The Legitimation of Violence 1: A Critical History of the Laws of War explains that: "By leaving out morale bombing and other attacks on civilians unchallenged, the Tribunal conferred legal legitimacy on such practices."[21][22]
So technically it wasn't a warcrime indeed
Such a badass quote.
>Article 25: The attack or bombardment, by whatever means, of towns, villages, dwellings, or buildings which are undefended is prohibited.
Read it before you link it
^This.
Go on, show me some undefended targets.
>Undefended
>Dresden didn't have AA guns
>implying civilian buildings had AA guns
This board used to have an original culture before beign run over by /leftypol/ and socialist subreddits.
Did the city have them? Yes. Did they firebomb it? Yes. Did it spread? Yes
Hey Frank, is /pol/ still bullying you?
>beign run over by /leftypol/ and socialist subreddits
as if that ever happened
it's quite obvious that anons treat Veeky Forums as a counter to /pol/, you don't need raids for that
If your only answer to Neo-Nazism is becoming an unironical communist, you're just as bad as them.
At least Nazism is dead and will never come back, while communism still makes victims in Latin America, Africa and Asia.
>becoming an unironical communist
how many unironical communists do you see on Veeky Forums?
i'd say there are more commie threads on /pol/ than here
Do not reply to Frank unironically, he'll put beetles in your bed
>how many unironical communists do you see on Veeky Forums?
too many desu
inb4 "I swear it's not me pls go away"
>"I do not personally regard the whole of the remaining cities of Germany as worth the bones of one British Grenadier." - Arthur Harris
Totally not something a war criminal would say
t. #NotAllNazis
as if that even matters
We are not discussing nazi war crimes here
Then stop being an apologist
>apologist=thinking allied war criminals should also be condemned
In the history of great Anglo legends it goes:
>Beowulf
>Sir Arthur Harris
When will is die?
There were threads about Harris when his was created and every time I come on to this shitty board there is even more harrisposting.
It has to stop.
This. Veeky Forums shills for the Romanov's like nobodies business.
DO IT AGAIN BOMBER HARRIS
>Terror bombing
>War crime
Since it had proven to be useless, yes it should be considered a warcrime. But I think we should let Bomber Harris pass this one, since it was for the sweet, sweet revenge.
I love modern Germany. It's not modern Germans who I'm making fun of every time I post something anti Second Reich or anti Third Reich. It's a different group that resides here.
>Beowulf
>Anglo
>Strategic ethnic cleansing
>War crime
>implying hippies don't want him to do it again
>le strategic bombing meme
Strategic bombing is always useless.
>useless
If it were useful, it would also be a crime.
>"REEEEEEEE HE KEEPS BOMBING OUR CITIES QQ STOP IT THATS A WAR CRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME"
>*ethnically cleanses conquered land*
>*unleashes Einsatzgruppen onto poor uneducated polish village*
>*shoves Jew into cattle car*
>killing civilians is totally justified as long as the other side killed more
>kill civilians on a massive scale
>mass murderer! you'll hang for this
>kill civilians on a massive scale using fire bombs
>it was necessary to win the war
You can't have it both ways
One is aggression, the other is revenge.
If you punch me, I'll sure as fuck punch you back.
Hey, the German people wanted a war more total and radical that anything that they could yet imagine, and they sure as hell got one.
Beowulf is an Anglo legend despite being in Scandinavia.
>destroys the shit out of factories
>smashes infrastructure
just so you know, factories and infrastructure are pretty important for fighting a war
>be violent brainlet advocating for MUH KRAUT LIVINGSPACE
>violence is justified until it's used against me
>One is aggression, the other is revenge.
They killed jews, slavs and chinese not americans and brits
>The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw, and half a hundred other places, they put that rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now, they are going to reap the whirlwind.
What about that one king that burned a cake?
Pretty good quote
The difference is one side keeps bitching about getting the treatment they gave out first.
What do you mean "be considered"? He is.
...
>everyone who's ever fought in a war is a war criminal
that's really helpful
>What is the battle of Britain
Not only that though, they are basically bitching about the ass kicking they gave out being returned in kind.
b-but muh dresden didn't have any military infrastructure
*levels Rotterdam*
Pic related is you
While its tragic that thousands of civilians were killed in Dresden, they were the ones that chimped out first. Did the Germans feel the same amount of pity or remorse for those in Warsaw, Rotterdam, Leningrad and Stalingrad?
By todays standards yes he would be considered a war criminal but back in WWII, the rules of warfare when it came to the context of strategic bombing, those rules were different and it was a total war as well.
I'm arguing in favour of the bombing of Dresden you cuck
>kraut hunnic subhumans kill 20k civilian
>"NO this cannot be done, no civilized country can do this, never ever, never forgive, never forget"
>anglo aryan bloodmunchers burn 20k civilians to death in one night
>"bom'ma harris wuz a gud boi he dindu nuffin"
The doublethink is out of this world. Bombing the industrial area is one thing and firebombing the city center is another.
War hero would be a better term to describe him
>kraut hunnic subhumans kill 20k civilian
Amazing numbers there. Completely wrong.
>kraut hunnic subhumans kill 20k civilian
you've missed three zeros there
If the guards from the concentration camps can be convicted of abetting, contributing to, or being complicit in the killings that took place there, Does that mean that Flight crews that drop fire bombs on these cities could also be held liable?
It wasn't a war crime, so no.
>Strategic bombing
>Ethnic cleansing
Did they used KSB? Kraut-seeking bombs?
/thread
no more than Prince Asaka
If Bomber Harris is a war criminal then so is Franco and so is Hitler
Yes, they should all receive Victoria Crosses
>its only ok to kill civilians if you do it from the air
>killing fellow saxons
>not a racial flaw but a good one
I mean in the allies eyes the nazis were the enemy.
No point in arguing whether it was a crime or not if the nazis won and bombed the shit out of other cities too I wouldn't be mad either.
It just happened that mister harris served an ultimate kike purpose.
the overlying question of this thread is should fire bombing cities be a war crime, if the answer is yes then could flight crews be held accountable?
>killing civilians is totally justified as long as the other side killed more
This is actually true.
The do it again Harris is targeted toward liberal globalism.
The answer is no, so it's a redundant question
no one will deny that Franco an Hitler are war criminals.
How can Hitler be a criminal if Hitler did nothing wrong?
Well if the Germans put their factories producing war supplies outside of their cities, the cities wouldn't have been bombed, because bombing technology just wasn't that advanced in 1944.
DO IT AGAIN
Do it again, Bomber Harris
That specific charred corpse is from Desert Storm IIRC.
the reason they used fire bombs in the first place is because they do more damage to urban areas
Not if you ask any decent human being
flight crews followed orders, so not responsible
The SS followed orders, so not responsible
I believe that comment is mockery of the "Just following orders" meme.
Why are Germans and their apologists allowed to live? Let alone spread their filth on Veeky Forums
Careful with that edge, you might cut yourself.
There is literally nothing edgier than the German, he exists purely to spite.