Red pill me on the Bolsheviks

Why is the answer you have for every problem: white males did it? Slowly it's getting ridiculous.

White males are blamed for fucking everything. People being poor, Islamic terror, racism and even 911. They are not the fucking source of everything bad in the world. They are just better educated than other groups.

Man has really nobody read books about the Bolsheviks and can bestow upon us their wisdom?

Your post was literally the first in the thread with the word "white" in it. Fuck off to /pol/ and let people discuss history, you fucking retard.

this user gets it you fucking WHITE MALES
DEATH TO CIS SCUM
no thanks bro I would side with my race when the multi kulti experiment is gonna implode

>all the major wars that led to massive destruction and loss of life were caused by white males
The Japanese are white males? wow dude that really makes you think
>Japan started war with USA and thereby the world war

#notallwhitemales

Keep shitting every board and then crying about leftypol when everybody else hates you.

Leftypol? What's a leftypol?

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it's funny to think that all these commie jew fucks got killed by based Stalin in 30's

They were the big guys.

>German Revolution of 1918-19
>lists a few notable people from the Spartacist uprising
I wonder if a single /pol/tard has ever read that article

>the Jews are the global banking elite and want to become rich at the expense of others.
>The Jews decided to create an ideology explictly designed to overthrow the banking elite and redistribute their wealth

Pick one fuckboi

Conspiracy theories are great because they give you an easy framework for understanding a complicated world

Actually this makes perfect sense. Did you even think about what you just said?

>one is the banking elite
>the other is designed to destroy other bankers and other elites

The Soviets never did anything even closely resembling an attack on the "elite" (either in London, New York, Wallstreet or wherever you think they are). They only annihilated the elites in Russia.

There is nothing "antisemitic" about pointing out that Jews were overrepresented among the Bolsheviks you fucking retard.

Thank Stalin and "socialism in one country" for that, but even he lent extensive support to communist parties elsewhere

Sure, but this overrepresentation is almost always exaggerated or used to discredit either Jews or Bolsheviks

Kinda hard to carry out an attack on a country an ocean away

>Who the fuck are these guys?

Left wing Marxist (not Marxian) thinkers. Their man stances was vanguardism.

>Did they really think they can revolutionize the world and achieve world domination?
Although Stalin later on rejected some of the premises of Marx's historical materialist analysis (most importantly: th fact that they thought that socialism could be achieved even when starting from a pseudo-feudal state), the original bolsheviks, especially Lenin, were still fairly close to the traditional Marx' analysis.
Lenin did not have expectations for the Revolution to work in the way you're thinking about (he did not expect to turn Russia in a super-power through socialism), rather he tried to use said Revolution as a kickstarter for other revolutions in the more advanced Europe (Lenin wanted very badly to trigger a revolution in Germany, for example) by giving them aid through the Russian/Soviet state.

Also they did not really think about world domination. Although someone may call me naive for saying it, there are really no reasons to think that Lenin and the first bolshevik wave were not sincere in their beliefs.

On the other hand on this front one can make arguments against Stalin, his Georgian pride and his pan-russian view of the revolution. He probably was sincere in his communist beliefs too, yet they were tainted by his evident interest in national pride: in this case we can start talking about world domination, instead of socialist liberation.

>What the hell were they smoking?
Tons of tobacco.

Controlled opposition and miscalculation.
>Bolsheviks were funded by Germans and Wall Street to destroy Russia, nobody really expected them to succeed, as all theories claimed that revolution will start in industrialized country(UK, Germany) not in half feudal agricultural shit-hole
>after this they were keep propped by USA(who invested heavy in industry in USSR) as a social experiment in the way to NWO, nobody really expected Russia to be actually competent
>USSR was tool for globalist and international elite that reside in USA and UK but then Stalin happen
>Stalin paranoia was completely justified, bolsheviks elites(old guards) were just paid revolutionaries and opportunists or just plain foreign agents -> that lead to purges that hit mostly Party and ruling elites and Comintern
>early alliance with between Soviets and Germany come from fact that both of them were isolated and both were in opposition against Wall Street globalists
>then Hitler attack Stalin and save eternal Anglo and after that declare war against USA giving USA pretext to directly meddle in European affairs
>after Hitler defeat Stalin found himself ruling bunch of ruined and devastated territories in face of powerful presence of USA in Europe, with Churchill and some USA elites openly want to go to war against Soviets
>Stalin try to oppose them but were assassinated and his successors shit on his legacy and renew their contacts with Wall Street globalists
>they now play the same game where one side play good cop and another play bad cop
>post Stalin elites start mingling with Eu technocrats and there were plans to actually fuse both USSR and EU but EU abandoned them under USA pressure
>it last until USA subverted USSR and make them dismantle their empire on sole promises on leaving former Soviet countries outside of NATO and USA influence, which was broken as weak Russia have no means to oppose it
In short:
>Bolsheviks work for NWO, with Stalin going rogue

Only a paranoid schizo could truly believe in this.

I can fit any observation into my retarded conspiracies: the post.

You can check most of this.
>bolsheviks funded by Germans and Wall Street
>used to make Russia drop from the war(both beneficial for Germany and for USA as they not need to fulfill Allies promises to them)
>USSR have plenty of contacts with western intellectuals and USA, most of heavy industry was planned and build by Americans using American tools and machines
>Stalin and Hitler cooperation and UK plans to even strike Baku to prevent Soviets from supplying German war machine with oil
>Stalin purges within Party, Army and Comintern
>total abandonment of Stalin legacy by Khrushchev and opening Soviets elites to western influence
You can also check how Mao get into power and USA links to him. Similar story but Chinese are better at this game than Soviets were

Yes "most", which excludes all the retarded conspiracy parts like "social experiment in the way to NWO", "USSR was tool for globalist and international elite that reside in USA and UK", "bolsheviks elites(old guards) were just paid revolutionaries and opportunists or just plain foreign agents", "early alliance with between Soviets and Germany come from fact that both of them were isolated and both were in opposition against Wall Street globalists", "his successors shit on his legacy and renew their contacts with Wall Street globalists", "they now play the same game where one side play good cop and another play bad cop", which is 90% of your post.

The Bolsheviks were the inevitable end result of a left-wing signaling spiral that was going on in Russia since the XIXth century.

If you read "Demons", by Dostoyevsky, you will see how the process was already going on. First you had a liberal intelligentsia that valued liberty and equality and the destruction of all traditions and authorities, that created a cultural climate that valued rebelion by itself. Under this climate, you could not be wrong if you were on the left, soon being a liberal wasn't enough, you had to be a socialist, and then socialism wasn't enough either, you had to be a Bolshevik.

The book also gives a good glimpse in the thinking of revolutionaries, like the Bolsheviks were. They really, sincerely believed that they could change the whole world through political action, and if you look at their success taking power and consolidating it, I'd say they had a reason for this "optimism".

Now, signaling spirals and revolutionary mentalities are not unique to Russia, but the Russian messianic character gave something special and escathological to Bolshevism that can't be blamed solely on Jews. No, Bolshevism was Russian as Borscht, which is why they couldn't export in so easily as they thought.

>early alliance with between Soviets and Germany come from fact that both of them were isolated and both were in opposition against Wall Street globalists
Truth. Both were excluded from League of Nations and rogue state.
>social experiment in the way to NWO
Also truth. The way to NWO is maybe to much shortcut but they want to build communism and new soviet human free from shackles of old order.
>his successors shit on his legacy and renew their contacts with Wall Street globalists
This is again fact. Abandoning Stalin cult and showing Stalin crimes really was a step that open new age of contacts between USA, Europe and USSR. It also crushed communist moral superiority(if they still have any over capitalist and imperialist). Also he allowed Party to get rich and corrupted. Basically switching to kleptocracy.
>bolsheviks elites(old guards) were just paid revolutionaries and opportunists or just plain foreign agents
This is also well know fact. Most of them were for hire and often funded by Tzar secret police as controlled opposition and a way to remove unwanted persons or get pretext to reforms or oppression . Not mention all that international revolutionists that come from USA or Europe and still had contact with their old sponsors.

You're one the only allowing youself to be controlled. They only have the power people like you give them.

that's the point you dunce

>Truth. Both were excluded from League of Nations and rogue state.
Does not prove your conclusion. Although it's false, germany withdrew from the league of nations, it wasn't excluded. On the other hand, both countries had already allied with the treaty of rapallo while being excluded from the league of nations in 1922, which according to your logic is a sufficient condition to prove that both the weimar republic and the early soviets they were anti globalists.

>Also truth. The way to NWO is maybe to much shortcut but they want to build communism and new soviet human free from shackles of old order.
Replying "truth" is not an argument as I'm sure you're aware.

>This is again fact. Abandoning Stalin cult and showing Stalin crimes really was a step that open new age of contacts between USA, Europe and USSR. It also crushed communist moral superiority(if they still have any over capitalist and imperialist). Also he allowed Party to get rich and corrupted. Basically switching to kleptocracy.
The party was already rich and corrupted. And I'm obviously not objecting to the fact that de-stalinization happened, I'm objecting to it being a globalist conspiracy. Only retarded stormfags seem to think that disliking a mass murderer requires a conspiracy.

>This is also well know fact.
No, it isn't.

I also found dostoyevsky's books to be pretty useful to understand the political atmosphere in russia.

>This is also well know fact.
No, it isn't.
Well maybe not on west.

>The party was already rich and corrupted. And I'm obviously not objecting to the fact that de-stalinization happened, I'm objecting to it being a globalist conspiracy. Only retarded stormfags seem to think that disliking a mass murderer requires a conspiracy.
De-stalinisation maybe wasn't a globalist conspiracy but definitely open way to infiltrate and subvert USSR by currency wars. Also Stalin before his sudden death planed another purges and his death open Party to open corruption and practically remove fear of purges from Party members.

I must admit that I use some shortcuts in my statements but well they are complicated things and I am lazy man.