Six Day War 50th Anniversary

It's the 50th anniversary of the Six Day War. Where Israel BTFO 5 Arab armies after several weeks of military build-up and tension along its borders by initiating an air attack on Egyptian air fields.
Depending how you look at it:

>those dang dirty Jews's started a war of aggression to genocide Palestinians
>God favors the Jews so he delivered a great victory. Zionism is real for a reason btw

The war further solidified Israel's geopolitical independence, influence in the ME, got Jewruseleum, and won the support and admiration of the US for decades.

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I only have cursory knowledge of the conflict,
so does Veeky Forums have any cool or interesting anecdotes from the Six Day War?

I will bump with some related images.

Have some Mirage 3's Veeky Forums. Taken on June 5th 1967 these fights are flying over Sinai.

The Six Day War marked the beginning of the competent-Israeli-air force-meme. It's not fully a meme though they all they did was bash some disorganized and poorly trained Arab forces.

Casualties:

>Israel
>900 killed
>4500 wounded
>15 captured

>Egypt
>10-15000 killed or MIA
>4500 captured

>Jordan
>6000 killed or MIA
>500 captured

>Iraq
>40 KIA or wounded

>Shit loads of tanks and air planes destroyed

If my memory serves me, Iraq's tank divisions were still en route from Iraq. That's one reason why Israel decided to attack on the 5th.

Reminder Israel was the instigator in 1948 and 1967

Earlier in the week Meir Amit, the head of Mossad, traveled under false documents to the US to speak with officials about an escalation. The US sought to cool the conflict, but had previously considered a multinational task force to reopen the straits-- which Egypt had blockaded. He saw US Sec of Defense Mcnamara,

>He was very impressive, wearing no tie or jacket.
>Mr. Secretary, I said, I understand your position. Now listen to ours... I'm going to recommend a war.
>McNamara asked only two questions. How long? I said it would take a week. How many casualties? I said less than the war of independence, which was 6000. McNamara said I read you loud and clear.

With the thumbs up from Uncle Sam they went to war two days later.

Pic related is Egyptian leader Nasser posing for a photo during the military build up. He wanted to look confident, surrounded by """"""highly trained""""" pilots who flew """""""advanced""""""" jet fighters.

>"We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood" - President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser

>"Brothers, it is our duty to prepare for the final battle in Palestine." – Nasser, Palestine Day, 1967

>"Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight . . . The mining of Sharm el Sheikh is a confrontation with Israel. Adopting this measure obligates us to be ready to embark on a general war with Israel." – Nasser, May 27, 1967

>May 19, 1967: "This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land"

>May 30, 1967: "The world will know that the Arabs are girded for battle as the fateful hour approaches."

Israel taking the Sinai in 4 days was poetic justice

Welp that's about all I know Veeky Forums hopefully someone knows some stories of good ol' Israeli tomfoolery.

I love how these threads always make it out to be some horde of arabs being mowed down by israeli specialists.
Israel drafted a 300 000 men (and women) army. Jordan had 20 000. Egypt had 80 000.

Yeah, it was a David vs Goliath, and Goliath won.

>Jordan had 20 000. Egypt had 80 000

uh... user?

Talking troops deployed, not government theory crafting. Egypt can claim it can draft 20 million if it wants. It deployed 80000 to the border.

>up to 25k killed and probably 1k tanks or more destroyed in just six days

Man, that really put the shitty modern middle eastern wars to shame.

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The only source for the whole paragraph in Wikipedia is:
>Pollack, Kenneth (2005). Air Power in the Six-Day War. The Journal of Strategic Studies. 28(3), 471–503.
Which only talks about the airforce, and not the infantry or other hardware. The rest is unsourced.

Additionally, wherever the number 100000 is mentioned, it is about the total government servicemen on the peninsula. This includes security and police and staff. It is not the number of soldiers on the border, it is the total government workers in the peninsula.

I mean that happened in the space of a month in the gulf war.

So, you have those numbers?

I am citing a physical copy of a book thats not in english, and the author claims USSR sources.
I can't be arsed to upload, so you can dismiss my numbers if you want, the same way I dismissed yours.

The israelis fought very well, beating a defense in depth with a blitzkrieg is an accomplishment. The former is meant to counter the other, but I think even if the USSR hadn't intervened Egypt would've lost.
I just dislike the picture painted of an elite unit of israeli commandos attacking a horde of orcs and using spec-ops tactics to force them out. It was instead a vulgar display of power, a brutal all in attack. It has its own merits.

Israel fascinates me. WW2 Military Historians would have you believe Germany was fucked because they were surrounded yet Israel is surrounded and they've won all their Wars against hapless Arabs.

Unlike Germany, Israel has powerful allies.
Unlike Israel, Germany was surrounded by powerful enemies.

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indeed, italy was a powerful enemy for them

youtube.com/watch?v=BHbz8fQ_L64

retard

Why can't Jews outside of Israel be as based as Israelis? The way they used their immunity from any kind of significant criticism from the West to just do whatever they want and cuck the entire region is just wonderful. I can't wait for them to colonize Palestine entirely and outbreed the Muslims with Orthodox Jews.

It's more of a competition between orthodox Jews and Palestinians to see who can outbreed the other side first. Orthodox Jews are really good at reproducing, but they're kinda useless as members of society, while Palestinians are about as good. It's a lot closer than you might think.

That other guy has sources. You do not. Besides that you arguing against a strawman. Stop posting.

No, they weren't.

You're a fucking idiot, lmao. Israel was outnumbered 2 and a half to 1.

Yes they were

>so does Veeky Forums have any cool or interesting anecdotes from the Six Day War?

Here's one for Kenneth Pollack's "Arabs at War".

>According to Heikal, at one Egyptian airbase the initial Israeli airstrike left three Sukhoi attack aircraft intact on the runway. Immediately the Soviet adviser at the base urged the pilots assembled in the mess hall to fly the planes to safety before the Israelis returned. However, to a man, the Egyptians responded that they had no order to do so and therefore refused. Less than 15 minutes later, the Israelis returned in a second wave and destroyed the 3 aircraft.

-Pollack, p. 63

The Iraqis had 30,000 men dead, 100,000+ captured, 2,000 APCs, and 3,000 tanks destroyed in under four days during the US ground offensive in the Gulf War.

Israel didn't win. They get BTFO'd in '73

I really love when this fellow decided to blame the US and UK because the'yre so butthurt on losing to Israel.

>Cut off Israel's sea access to the south
>Kick UN observors out of Sinai
>Mass armies on Israel's borders while making speeches that you will soon destroy them
>Cry victim when they attack you

Nasser's behavior in 1967 was shameful

The Soviet advisers told him to surrender and hope the Jews don't decide to Cairo. Nasser had a meltdown and blamed the Soviets for the failure and for giving him bad intelligence on Israeli military capabilities. The Soviet delegation ignored him and left the room, back Nasser apologized and invited them back in.

Upon their re-entry he asked the USSR to launch a nuclear attack on Israel and the Soviets left again.

Israel didn't have many allies in 1967. They recieved mainly French and some minor Anglo support. US support really hadn't started yet, and in fact the US had multiple arms embargo on Israel during the 1948-1967 period,

The Arabs recieved far more aid from the USSR in the same period.

israel is a proxy state supported by US and at some point even USSR

arabs had to go at it alone, with constant interferences through coups, etc

>"go it alone"
>50,000 Soviet advisers in Egypt alone
>Soviet air force pilots flying missions for them
>$5 billion in foreign aid to Syria from USSR 1963-1973
>enormous amounts of latest soviet weaponry

I bet you dont even know that the US put arms embargoes on Israel 1948-1950 and again 1956-1961

>inb4 Qatar pulls something similar against the Saudi hate train
One hell of a anniversary it would be.

>ignoring the Israelis started the war by bombing all of the Egyptian airfields effectively destroying their airforce.
>ignoring the Israeli's fought Egypt predominantly and the Jordanians, Syrias, and Iaqis sent smaller auxiliaries.
>ignoring how the Arabs slapped Israel's shit during the Yom Kippur War

The truth is Israel only exists because of America. They would collapse without all the money they've been given by the west since their inception.

This sounds funny. Source?

>ignoring how the Arabs slapped Israel's shit during the Yom Kippur War

This. The Zionist regime isn't as nice as people say it is. If Israel tried to instigate another war like they have thus far they would get obliterated.

>arabs had to go at it alone

Oh bullshit. Literally 90% of Syrian arms were donated Soviet surplus and the Soviets and Cubans directly militarily intervened in the War of Attrition with tens of thousands of soldiers and advisors. The Israelis meanwhile had little foreign support prior to '73. The Arabs held overwhelming numerical and materiel superiority in every conflict. Their economies too were propped up by the Soviets, Syria had $13.4 billion in debt to the Soviets as well as regular stipends of several billion a year, and that debt was almost entirely forgiven by Russia a decade ago.

This is always the case with these debates. The Soviets give absurd amounts of aid to their clients while the US gives small amounts to their's. Yet for some reason, when the US clients succeed and the Soviet clients fail, it's always because of the small amount of aid they got from the US and the much more massive Soviet aid didn't matter. See also the crowing about Cuba and North Korea which got literally 15-25% of their entire respective GDPs from Soviet stipends.

The Arabs got their shit pushed in during the '73 war. Not even Arabs can be this delusional.

>t. moshe
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. The Zionist regime occupying Palestine had thousands of tanks destroyed, piles of dead Israelis every Israeli tank or plane that came forward was blown to bits.

>ignoring how the Arabs slapped Israel's shit during the Yom Kippur War
בסדר

Arab casualties were x5-10 higher than Israeli ones despite overwhelming materiel superiority. Nice try Ahmed.

Anything to help you sleep at night.

>sneak attack on one of holiest days in which barely any reserve forces were stationed at the border
>they still get rekt after israel manages to get it's shit together

The Arabs still lost, and yet they consider it a victory like a bunch of fags in denial

The numbers are right there

lmao, yom kippur war was a disaster for arabs. War ended with Israel having retaken all territory initially lost, and having in fact taken MORE territory and were deep inside Arab borders. They could have moved on Cairo unopposed had they wanted given that the Egyptian army was trapped in the sinai.

Combine this and a 5:1 kill ratio and the idea the arabs won the war is ridiculous.

US aid amounts to 1% of Israel's GDP and wasn't even given in any relevant numbers till the 70s. I fail to see how it would collapse.

>this is what the mudslimes actually believe

WOW, weird how Israel was controlling even more territory at the end of the war than before given they got obliterated...right?

Go ahead and pull your baghdad bob tier "there are no Jewish tanks west of Suez" though.

You guys should check the Arabic version of the Yom-Kippur war wikipedia page.

I can see why he thinks it was a "success" for Arabs.

>50k advisors
I would love to see any sources on that. Especially with dates, seeing how a lot of them were sent after the Six Day war.

My grandfather was one of the advisors in 1967-1969, in captain rank, he was a SAM battery commander. What he told me was that Egyptians are utterly retarded. Every time they saw on radars something flying towards them from Israeli side, the crew was running away and hiding in the trenches instead of even trying to engage the targets, and at best that left the command post manned instead of crew of 5-6 by a crew of 1 Soviet supervisor who had to go by himself through all the cycle from acquiring the target to tracking it and firing. Sometimes he had to even pull his pistol and force the crews fight Israeli planes. And that lack of discipline was on many levels. He was complaining they were shitting in trenches, instead of digging proper field toilets, they bought uniforms themselves instead of it being distributed by their rear services. In the end he got lightly wounded by an Israeli bomb explosion and sent back home.

Also, not a combat related story, back at the time he wasn't speaking much with his cousin, but suddenly he received a letter from him that he was in Alexandria and wanted to see him. The letter looked suspicious, and, given that Mossad attempted to abduct Soviet officers earlier, he adressed to KGB, showing the letter. So, they decided to use him as bait, and the surprise was that it actually was his cousin, that became a sailor, and who somehow got in the port with the ship, where my granddad was. So the cousin was talking to the other ship crew and found out about my grandfather being there.

>In the name of appeasing authority, officers in the field agreed to orders that they know they could not carry out. Moreover, Junior officers, and even senior commanders, tended to avoid censures by denying failure or shifting blame in reporting combat situations. Thus, defeats were described as victories, enemy numbers were exaggerated to account for setbacks, and other forms of dissimulation and outright lying distorted the real course of battle. A thick fog of war obscured the view of the battlefield from the top, so that those in authority made decisions irrelevant to the actual circumstances in the field. Incorrect and false reporting reached their most flagrant during the six-day war, after which the Egyptians and Jordanians explicitly concluded that the origin of this problem lay in Arab culture and its emphasis on avoiding shame.
"Battle" p.289-90 John Lynn

I like you man. Sorry the rest of these guys won't budge.
Are you allowed to add a fact or two to that wiki?

I wish I could have been there to inb4 the salty saltniks going "NOOOO IT'S NOT FAIR"

IAF camo scheme is very cool looking.

Well put.

Agreed, campfire-tier

>US aid amounts to 1% of Israel's GDP

And Israeli government budget is one third of GDP making US aid 3% which is more than any industrialized nation spends on military.

t. Isiaih shekelschlomosteinberg

How about you look at the consequences?

Before the war, Israel wasn't giving up any land gained in 1967.
After the war, Israel was quick to sign a treaty with Egypt, and surrender the Sinai in exchange for peace.
The Yom Kippur war was a political victory for Sadat.

>outbreed the Muslims with Orthodox Jews

By 2050 what is now supposed to be Palestine will be like 40% Jewish. The Muslim birth rate there is like 3 and the Jewish settler birth rate is like 5-6. It'll be a Jewish theocracy in this life time

What's wrong with having a long Jewish name my autistic friend?

>dude look ar this massive worthless desert Israel conquered but couldn't keep!

Why are nearly all of the leadership in the anti Israel coalition dominated by sat am villans?

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>Suez Canal
>Strait of Tiran
>worthless

user, i

Arabs

Without those living jokes of a people the world would be alot more boring place.

Nah krauts are just shitty at war when they fight someone their size i.e. soviet union.

It's almost like numbers aren't the determining factor in war :^)

>What he told me was that Egyptians are utterly retarded.

I can't imagine the rage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rimon_20

>someone their size i.e. soviet union

USSR had more dudes, more factories, more food, more land to utilize for defense in depth, and more allies to back them up.

>more people more stuff d00d that's all u n33d in war!

Go back to playing hearts of iron 4 you brainlet.

>strawman

You said their own size. The USSR isn't their own size, its bigger. You are wrong.

>The USSR is bigger.

You forgot that the USSR was also better than Germany, in literally every single way.

>isn't their own size

How do you know that for sure? Have you measured each country and accounted for cartographic distortion?

You are an idiot, come back when you have a real argument, or go back to playing hearts of iron 4.

You repeat the video game "argument", completely out of the blue, and claim that Germany was larger than the USSR? In what terms was it larger?
Certainly not territory or population, which is what people normally refer to when they measure countries "size".

Either make a point or stop responding.

>claim that Germany was larger than the USSR

citation needed

>You repeat the video game "argument",

It actually is an argument, it's for brainlets like you that take nitpicking of euphemisms as if they provide insight to a discussion.

So yes, please go back to hearts of iron 4 where battles are decided by clear cut quantities.

Stop posting you mongoloid. The other guy is posting facts and you're just shitposting.

>all that israeli jingoism
it seems your neighbors influenced you
I do wonder how will you manage to cope with radical orthodox jews, who outbreed, leech off welfare and harbor very extremist views. I wonder what will happen when they become a sizeable voting block.

This is the elephant in the room imho, no one talks about it and those who do deny the danger, one israeli general iirc said hasidic are a bigger danger to isarel's future than arabs, I have to agree. I don't think you will have a destruction from without but beware the destruction from within. Unless secular jews have 5-6 kids like hasids I would be worried.

Israel's current territorial claims are all secular european values modern people.
It is the contested land that is a battlefield between jewish and arab fundies.
So the state of Israel can just let that land become an independent warzone, like it practically is today.

My fear, and iirc the projectionists fear is thet pendulum will swing far more towards radical jews, and they will began to outvote the rest
Not saying they will act and vote as one but look at Erdogan who managed to take over Turkey democratically thanks to rallying and unifying many from mild conservatives to islamists who had previously voted for different parties. I don't think such a thing will happen as effective as it happened in turkey but I do predict the extremist voting block will only expand and cause further trouble in the near future

>glasses and peyas
Every time
Must be like getting your ass kicked by a man in a dress

What kind of mental roadblocks have you erected up there to ignore sheer soviet manpower?
Germany's success or failure in war has nothing to do with Israel's prowess dude. She's still a glorious nation. You're fighting a red herring.

Then why didn't Israel keep it? Because they couldn't. Israel is a meme nation with a meme military.

Pressure from the west and a desire for better relations with Egypt. Nowadays the Sinai is infested with IS fucking shits so maybe it was a blessing they got rid of it.

>Israel's current territorial claims are all secular european values modern people.

L O L
Literally a nation based off of a 2,000 year old religious claim which had to genocide the native population in order to achieve it's statehood.
>Hebrew speaking
>continuously engaged in territorial wars
How is Israel in any way "European"? Maybe they're similar to a Balkan nation but that is it. All they do is leech off of Western nations.

>Speaks its own snowflake meme language
>continuously engaged in territorial wars
Sounds pretty European to me

>speaks it's own non-Roman script, non-European language
>exists in the Middle East
>Jewish defender posts anti-German image

You Israelis are so transparent.

>genocide the native population
>How is Israel in any way "European"

Sounds pretty European to me.

No it's natural West Asian behavior. Jews are South West Asians who finally decided to stop plaguing Europe and created their own nation.

Ethan DON'T!

Israel gave up Sinai because of the UN peace settlement not because of any peace deal with Egypt. They BTFO'd Egypt again in 1973 and were almost at Cairo when the UN intervened

kek

>Where Israel BTFO 5 Arab armies

Israelis think this. They would be nothing without the support of the West today.

Man... the kikes really gave them an ass whoopin

One of the best ''Talk shit get hit'' incidents in history

>We aim at the destruction of the State of Israel. The immediate aim: perfection of Arab military might. The national aim: the eradication of Israel." – President Nasser of Egypt, November 18, 1967

>"The armies of Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Lebanon are poised on the borders of Israel . . . . to face the challenge, while standing behind us are the armies of Iraq, Algeria, Kuwait, Sudan and the whole Arab nation. This act will astound the world. Today they will know that the Arabs are arranged for battle, the critical hour has arrived. We have reached the stage of serious action and not declarations." – Nasser, May, 30, 1967

>Cairo Radio Statements:

>May 19, 1967: "This is our chance Arabs, to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation, to blot out its entire presence in our holy land"

>May 27, 1967: "We challenge you, Eshkol, to try all your weapons. Put them to the test; they will spell Israel's death and annihilation."

>May 30, 1967: "The world will know that the Arabs are girded for battle as the fateful hour approaches."

>"Our goal is clear – to wipe Israel off the map. We shall, God willing, meet in Tel Aviv and Haifa." – President Abdel Rahman Aref of Iraq, May 31, 1967

>"We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants and as for the survivors – if there are any – the boats are ready to deport them." – Shukairy, June 1, 1967, speaking at a Friday sermon in Jerusalem

>I as a military man, believe that the time has come to enter into a battle of annihilation." – Syrian Defense Minister Hafez Assad, May 20, 1967

>"The freedom of the homeland will be completed by the destruction of the Zionist entity and the expulsion of the Americans and the British from the region." – Algerian Prime Minister Houari Boumedienne

>"We want war. War is the only way to settle the problem of Israel. The Arabs are ready." – Yemeni Foreign Minister Salam

The consequences were a huge strategic victory for Israel, Egypt gave up trying to destroy it and accepted peace. The whole reason for occupying the sinai was for a buffer zone against Egypt, without the Egyptian peace was useless

If Egypt accomplished some huge victory against Israel, why did the Arab world react with outrage and expel Egypt from the Arab League after Sadat made peace?