Just watched Wonder Woman

and is their any historical truth to it

were their all-female warrior clans that could challenge the likes of the Spartans etc.

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P.S I'm not asking if their is any truth to Wonder Woman

but if their is any truth to the historicity of the Amazons?

The Scythians had female warriors

There were female warriors as far back as antiquity with the ancient steppe tribes having women participate in martial culture. However, matriarchal martial societies are rare and disputed because biologically and logically they would have been defeated by men who have more muscle mass, height. And would not be crippled for 9+ months raising a kid.

I'm pretty sure they didn't have superpowers and couldn't bench press armored cars.

Did physical strength make a difference in sword fights?

Yes, all the Marvel films and comics are based on impeccable historical fact.

What do you think user

sarmatians were beleived to be the inspiration for the amazon warrior concept in ancient greece
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians

Absolutely. Take two warriors of equal skill and have one be stronger, the stronger one wins. I hope you're not baiting me user.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatians
could they of defeated the Spartans?

Not historically exactly like that but there have been porns
Reminder that WW was an S&M inspired creation
Look it up

S and M?

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And when her hands were tied she lost ALL of her powers

Of course. Surely this is not Hollywood pandering to feminists. Women were as strong as men in ancient times, and they on radically mutated into their current, weaker form in more recent times due to the patriarchy stealing their special powers and minds.

Oh yeah, it has. Unarmored sword fight is your best bet for a female tough, when a speedy thrust could end a male. But you add armor and thinks change dramatically. Or in a shieldwall. About your question, some elite women did go to war in the steppes, and you have some woman defendign houses and stuff, but warrior woman societies have been ever rare, woman are very bad material for a fighter, less height, strenght, logistic nightmares specially when pregnat, they hurt themselves worse and heal way slowly, don't form brotherhood bonds or sprits de corps...

with threads like this its getting more and more apparent that none of you actually read history outside of your computer games

are you old enough to post here?

>matriarchal martial societies
I dont think that terminology is correct. Gynocentric warrior culture is more accurate, south indian Nairs had a Matriarchal Matial culture due to the males having in the past been constantly engaged in war against the Chola Empire for over a hundred years between the 11th and 12th centuries so society and traditions changed to reflect the scarcity of men by making women the inheritors and the head of the family, even to this day the children of Nairs receive their mothers last name, not their fathers and the mothers dont change their last names either.

>Herodotus records the Zaueces people of Ancient Libya, whom he describes as having their women drive their chariots to war, as well as the festival of Athena Tritogenia among the Ausean people, whose young women are divided into two groups and fight each other with stones and sticks.[69] This festival, taking place in Ancient Libya, describes the girls from the Machlyans and Auseans tribes fighting each other, and those who died were labeled false virgins.[70]

>phallic weapons
>not a single throwing anus

ugh

Spartan Women.
Somebody /thread me.

i didn't watch the movie but did the lasso of truth make an appearance or was that too sexist?

Didn't they find some tall female skeletons years ago? The way their legs were shaped indicated that they spent a lot of time on horseback.

they weren't warriors.

The film has very little to do with actual greek mythology(save for a few names), let alone history.

Herodotus mentions Amazons in his histories. I forget where they came from but the Persians killed all of the men or something and when nobody came back from the war the women armed themselves and roamed around attacking people. Eventually a group of men tried to camp near them, and after a couple of months they had all moved into the mens' camp.

IDK if its true or if Herodotus was just jacking off as he wrote it.

Hey man, just a story I heard. Heh heh.

It is extreme fiction, mate.

Yes the Jewish race has a long history of commiting genocide

I notice there is a higher prevalance of all female royal guards vs all female warriors. The Mauryans had them, I read somewhere the Khmer did the same and some Mesoamericans did too.

>Peasant women take some axes and somehow manage to defeat an entire organised army of experimented soldiers.
Seem legit.

of course not, female warriors only existed in the mythology of ancient greece, the amazons were rekt by Hercules

there is no historical evidence of Amazons or all women warrior civilizations, there are some accounts of women warriors or women being trained in fighting like in Sparta or in Britannia but these were rare acceptations.

This entire thread is retarded but especially this post.

Ever wonder why boxing and Mixed Martial Arts have weight classes? Because it's not really fair to stick a featherweight and heavyweight in the ring together: the featherweight will get his ass fucking kicked every time. It's simply a matter of physics: more weight means more muscle means more force behind your blows means more cushion for absorbing them. That heavyweight is going to be bigger, faster, and stronger than that featherweight could ever be.

And have you ever noticed that the other thing Boxing and MMA fans look at when comparing fighters is reach? Even having a few inches of reach is a pretty significant advantage.

Female fighters have a severe deficiency in both with respect to men. In a stand up fight they lose, which is why in the overwhelming number of societies women didn't fight unless they absolutely had too, and even then they were more apt to surrender and be gang-raped by soldiers than even bother putting up a fight, knowing that her only real chance of survival was to just let them take what they want (which hopefully wasn't your life) and leave when they get bored. Steppe women who fought did so from a chariot or from horseback with a bow and arrow.

Spartan women were not soldiers, they were superb athletes and competed readily among each other and the boys, as they believed with a religious intensity that strong women make strong soldier babies. In fact the first female Olympic winner in history was a Spartan princess in the chariot races.

Athenians fucking hated them for it: called them a gynotopia (a place ruled by women and intrigue)